davidtaylorjr
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Good, so you can read larger studies.
So then why do you get so bent out of shape over my opinons?
From biased sources? Sure.
Bent out of shape? You clear misread. I'm merely engaged is discussion. I fundamentally disagree with you and find your belief system harmful to you as well as others. Like I said, if harms humanity and doesn't uplift the human. I'd prefer to win that argument, but I'm not bent out of shape by any means.
I'm sure any source hat disagrees with you is biased. However, I did suggest you should read more dissenting literature. It would help you have a more well rounded view of the issue.
How does it harm humanity? It doesn't. It furtheres morality.
You don't think I have?
Bigotry nearly always harms. It is hateful. Closed minded and has nothing to do with morality. Loving someone is much more moral than greed, violence, and any number of sins. Humanity is better when it sees that love, that commitment, that tenderness than when it response with hate.
Yes, anti-religious bigotry has a long track record of being very harmful.
So then why do you get so bent out of shape over my opinons?
Bigotry nearly always harms. It is hateful. Closed minded and has nothing to do with morality. Loving someone is much more moral than greed, violence, and any number of sins. Humanity is better when it sees that love, that commitment, that tenderness than when it response with hate.
Perhaps it is just because they are arbitrary, selective, specious, inconsistant, dogmatic, thoughtless, irrational, obsessive and unnecessarily bigoted.
You seem to think I hate the person..... Not the case.
I don't believe that is the case. I think many hide behind that type of saying. If it wasn't more personal, it'd take it's proper place in the hierarchy of sins, down around eating too much, and not all these threads on it. There are far greater concerns for the Christian out here.
Of course there are other concerns, doesn't mean we can't stand on this one when it comes up. Look, I don't go out and picket about the gay agenda, I don't make a huge public fuss, do I discuss it when it is brought up? Absolutely.
It is the overkill focus that disturbs me. And when you consider how unlikely it is that it is a concern for heaven, and that loving is better than hating, the constant beating against is does and will always come across as hateful.
It is the overkill focus that disturbs me. And when you consider how unlikely it is that it is a concern for heaven, and that loving is better than hating, the constant beating against is does and will always come across as hateful.
You seem to think I have an overfocus on it. I don't, this board does. It is one of the most discussed topics, as it is also one of the most discussed topics in the nation. Of course that is what is going to be talked about, it's not the only thing I talk about. I'm very active in the Zimmerman threads as well which doesn't even touch on the topic. Well, until that girl said that Zimmerman might have been like that, but that's a different story.
It is a concern for heaven as all sin is, granted, you don't think it is a sin due to your sources. That's fine, wrong, but your opinion none-the-less.
But I can't stand it when people push the homosexual topics in our faces, basically baiting us, then call us bigoted and hateful because we fight for what we believe.
Focus, indeed!
What is especially amazing to me is that were a person to simply go about the business of picking up the N.T., reading the thing from cover to cover like one would do with any other text, and attempt to make sense of it all without the interference of a bunch of thumpers telling them what's what, about the LAST thing they would come up with is that it is all about homosexual "sin". All that focus comes from other men and not the bible they claim to be using as their guide.
Jesus said "Follow ME". Quite simply put -- they don't.
Like I have said, I'm not convinced it is a sin. But as the definition of sin is not just evil, but more along the lines of how to live a better life (like when eating pork was dangerous, eating pork was forbidden), being a sin doesn't mean we deny rights, call out, defame, or attack such. This is a minor league sin if it is a sin at all. No need for the constant attacks against it.
And as you engage in these threads, a lot, you might consider your role. Just a thought.
Fair point at the end. That being said, all sin is equal. All sin condemns us to hell, the only way to escape that is to turn and repent and follow Christ as Lord.
Yes, I've read that, but not so much among men. Murder will upset me a lot more than eating too much chocolate. It really is worse. Sins also fall into categories. So, while I understand where that saying scores from, I don't really buy that here in our world.
And if Christians really believe it, we'd see a lot of gossip threads and over eating threads from them. The Westboro bunch would be protesting beer drinkers and drunks. So, there is something more than a belief of it being a sin involved here.
Like I have said, I'm not convinced it is a sin. But as the definition of sin is not just evil, but more along the lines of how to live a better life (like when eating pork was dangerous, eating pork was forbidden), being a sin doesn't mean we deny rights, call out, defame, or attack such. This is a minor league sin if it is a sin at all. No need for the constant attacks against it.
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Westboro takes things to a whole different and disgraceful level. That being said, of course man doesn't see all sin as equal, but God does not distinguish sins to be different. All condemn to hell.
follow Christ as Lord.
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