galenrox said:How about none of them? They're all complete crap stories.
So what if Mexicans are bringing drugs in, God be with them in my opinion, we could use some more!
So what if Al Gore criticized America? Frank Sinatra criticized America, no one ever questioned his patriotism.
So what if Cheney shot a dude in the face, it was an accident, and the dude'll be fine, it's a little funny, but that's it.
jamesrage said:You call the government not doing it's job to protect our borders not a big deal?
You call being a terrorist cheerleader not a big deal?
Old fogeys getting into a hunting accident is a pretty stupid story.
I would think mexican army helping to smuggling drugs would be a much bigger deal.Pacridge said:I firmly believe it matters not that the current VP is a GOP. Had any VP shot someone it would be a big story.."
Now it turns out he didn't even have a bird stamp. That's illegal hunting and a crime.How much of a crime I don't know, depends on the state. I think when the VP commits a crime it's a pretty big story. The VP of the US isn't just any old "fogey
jamesrage said:I would think mexican army helping to smuggling drugs would be a much bigger deal.
WOW he did not have $7 bird stamp,Oh man that is so huge.Holy **** everyone in the world has to know about this,**** the mexican army invading our border to help smuggle drugs into our county and our government trying to cover it up story,Cheney accidently shooting another man and hunting with out a $7 dollar bird stamp is a much bigger story.
Maybe Bush will throw a blank piece of paper out of his limo and that story can be covered instead of a really important story like a terrorist attack heppening or terrorist attacked being thwarted or mexican army helping to smuggle drugs.
Pacridge said:That Mexican Army story has been debunked for sometime now:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...o/stories/020405dntexborderside.22317f11.html
Yes some guys dressed in military garb did have a stand off with US officers, no they weren't members of the Mexican Army. But feel free to keep repeating it as if it's fact. Just don't be surprised if you loose credibility when doing so.
You want to dismiss the fact that the US VP shot somebody as a non-story, knock yourself out. But don't be surprised if others see it as a serious concern. Last I heard the poor guy was having problems due to the shotgun pellets near his heart.
What's the price of the stamp have to do with anything? Here in Oregon the cost of an elk tag is about $40. Poaching (not having it) is a serious crime and can result, often does in repeat cases, in jail time and large fines. At a min. poaching here in Oregon will cost you your right to hunt for 2 yrs. and the loss of your weapon.
But, and this may surprise you, I don't hold the VP completely responsible for not having the stamp. My reasoning being he's not exactly just any hunter. He's the VP of the US. As such he probably doesn't take care of logistical matter such as purchasing the stamp. I'm willing to give him the benefit of doubt and say he probably thought he was hunting legally. It was after all a canned hunt, most of these hunts are set up by the so called guide and the tags and stamps are arranged by them. If the stamp wasn't provided by the canned hunt service, why didn't whom ever makes travel arrangements for the VP take care of this matter? I seriously doubt he ever involves himself in such matters.
What I'm not willing to give him a pass on is shooting someone. I also think anyone who engages in canned hunting should be ashamed of themselves. But unlike shooting someone, that's legal.
Pacridge said:That Mexican Army story has been debunked for sometime now:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...o/stories/020405dntexborderside.22317f11.html
Yes some guys dressed in military garb did have a stand off with US officers, no they weren't members of the Mexican Army. But feel free to keep repeating it as if it's fact. Just don't be surprised if you loose credibility when doing so.
You want to dismiss the fact that the US VP shot somebody as a non-story, knock yourself out. But don't be surprised if others see it as a serious concern. Last I heard the poor guy was having problems due to the shotgun pellets near his heart.
Deegan said:I have heard more then a few people tell a much different tale about these incursions, so it's far from being "debunked" I heard on one news program, a Sheriff from Arizona I believe, describing more then 120 incidents like this one. So I would not be so quick to dismiss this as nothing more then a bunch of Mexicans dressed as soldiers. We all know that the police, and some government officials have been tied to the drug trade, i would not be surprised to hear the military is as well.
jamesrage said:So you feel much better it is just a drug cartel instead of the Mexican Amry and Uncle Sam is not securing our borders?Reguardless of whic hstory you beleave to be true you still confortable that UNcle Sam is not securing the border since drug Cartels or mexican military is sneaking across the border
This is about how ridiculous the media is getting with their priorities and stories.
Pacridge said:If it is true does that somehow make Cheney shooting someone a non-story?
Kelzie said:So where's the option for whichever story sells the most? Maybe your question should be why that answer seems to be "C". Not really the media's fault.
jamesrage said:Everyone knows full well the media had a huge liberal slant.The liberal media hates Cheney.That is why Cheney and his old geezar buddies getting into a non-fatal accident is a much bigger story than Al Gore taking Foreign money to smear the US in Suadia Arabia this week and bigger story than Mexican Cartel or Mexican Army sneaking accross the border to smuggle drugs.
The liberal media realizes this will damage Cheney's reputation or at least make him the butt of everyone's jokes including hunters.They will proably start to refer to non-fatal hunting accidents as "a Cheney".
jamesrage said:Everyone knows full well the media had a huge liberal slant.The liberal media hates Cheney.That is why Cheney and his old geezar buddies getting into a non-fatal accident is a much bigger story
Kandahar said:Are you kidding? This has nothing to do with trying to smear Cheney; it's a big story because the Vice President of the United States shot someone. Are you telling me if a Democratic VP shot someone, that it wouldn't be an equally big story? This Whittington guy is the first person to be shot by a sitting VP since Alexander Hamilton.
I haven't heard any serious voices claiming that Cheney did it on purpose; I haven't even heard any serious voices using this as a reason for gun control (although I'm sure someone probably has). It has nothing to do with partisan politics, it's simply an interesting story. Quit your bitching.
Kelzie said:So where's the option for whichever story sells the most? Maybe your question should be why that answer seems to be "C". Not really the media's fault.
Scarecrow Akhbar said:The scary part of what you say is that stories like that dumb drunk broad down in Aruba still get air time. That's pretty frightening.
Pacridge said:Sadly, no I don't think he's kidding. And yes, I firmly believe if this were a Dem VP Jamesrage would be enraged. But it's a GOP VP so we get- VP shot somebody?That's not a story. Look over here, here's a story, no, wait, over here, here's a story.
Seems to me the Dems tried, to some extent, the same tactic when Clinton got caught with a mistress. The President has a mistress? That's not a story. Look over here. No, wait, look...
I don't think the story has anything to do with politics either, but that's not going to stop some from trying to make it political.
Pacridge said:That's not only true but sad as well. I feel for her family, I really do. But national news for months on end?
Do you think it would still be getting coverage if she weren't young, cute and blond?
There are a lot of missing kids that have not garnered the same amount of attention that girl has. They just now might have found the body of a local missing boy, but you're not going to hear about it on national news. It just seems like a distraction or attempt to avoid reporting real news.Pacridge said:That's not only true but sad as well. I feel for her family, I really do. But national news for months on end?
Do you think it would still be getting coverage if she weren't young, cute and blond?
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