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Mine scaled up after time, though my income continues to be at poverty level due to the obvious of being a student (whether undergraduate or graduate). My family was middle class, but as a result of disability matters, our disposable income was much less. For myself, expectations were institutionalized as low and I had been surrounded by those with disabilities under your "poor" and "working" designation at the same time that I was surrounded by those professionals with Master's degrees working in the public sector. Now I am working to getting my MA and eventually a PhD. No matter that, my psyche will be heavily identified in your bottom two tiers.
I think your mischaracterizing it Next...your separating the middle class by education and I think it separates by wealth and income which doesnt always correlate with education
I think your mischaracterizing it Next...your separating the middle class by education and I think it separates by wealth and income which doesnt always correlate with education
Your education level has nothing at all to do with allot of people earning potential. I was making more than my friends who had masters in the early 90's before I even finished my associates. I know constructions workers with no more than a HS diploma or less who own companies or make at least 6 figures. It boils down to what you do with what you have, not just what you have.
The poll in my opinion should be divided by income...
0 - 20,000 Poor/below poverty level
21,000 - 35,000 Working
36,000 - 50,000 Traditional Middle
51,000 - 65,000 Middle
66,000 - 100,000 Upper Middle
101,000+ Upper Middle+
I am talking single person income, not couples etc.
Not always, but this is how I've seen it broken down - as the people using statistics are looking at the educational levels and how that correlates to income. Is it right? Not always and I don't think it paints a complete picture. However, I believe it's an easier way to get people to participate in a poll such as this, by asking them which 'class' they put themselves in based off of educational levels as to posting income amounts.
Your education level has nothing at all to do with allot of people earning potential. I was making more than my friends who had masters in the early 90's before I even finished my associates. I know constructions workers with no more than a HS diploma or less who own companies or make at least 6 figures. It boils down to what you do with what you have, not just what you have.
The poll in my opinion should be divided by income...
0 - 20,000 Poor/below poverty level
21,000 - 35,000 Working
36,000 - 50,000 Traditional Middle
51,000 - 65,000 Middle
66,000 - 100,000 Upper Middle
101,000+ Upper Middle+
I am talking single person income, not couples etc.
Not always, but this is how I've seen it broken down - as the people using statistics are looking at the educational levels and how that correlates to income. Is it right? Not always and I don't think it paints a complete picture. However, I believe it's an easier way to get people to participate in a poll such as this, by asking them which 'class' they put themselves in based off of educational levels as to posting income amounts.
I'm always going to be a mixture of classes: aware of how close I was/am to being the poor/working class, raised with lower-middle class sensibilities, but surrounded in the intellectual climate of the middle-upper middle class academic/public sector folk.
I think referring exclusively to financial situations is a bit too......limiting in discussion of class.
I have a degree but one does not have to have a degree to be upper middle class ...also one can be poor and still have a degree.....so the poll is a bit skewed.
I agree. I wouldn't consider myself 'well off' by any stretch. I know what my job description is and I hold a degree. However, that doesn't mean that I'm any more 'well off' than the poor class at times. I do believe there are a lot of determining factors in social classes here in the U.S.
I just wonder who the hell the politicians are referring to as their idea of "middle class".
Intellectual is not a climate or education level. It's a class, as real as lower, middle and upper. An intellectual can and generally does spend time with both the poor and rich and finds themself comfortable with either. Dictators like intellectuals, until they get power; then, not so good for us.
Everyone wants to be in this class, except rich snobs, and I'm sure you all are.
lol I get what you're saying!Which class do I identify with?
I tend to prefer Human Fighters, especially in 4th edition. If it's 3.5, I would rather pick a class from the Book of Nine Swords, but that's just so my characters can compete with spellcasters in later levels.
Not always, but this is how I've seen it broken down - as the people using statistics are looking at the educational levels and how that correlates to income. Is it right? Not always and I don't think it paints a complete picture. However, I believe it's an easier way to get people to participate in a poll such as this, by asking them which 'class' they put themselves in based off of educational levels as to posting income amounts.
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