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Where have all the workers gone

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When Ryan McDowell bought the Baskin-Robbins franchise in St. Joseph, he never realized it would be this hard finding employees to scoop ice cream.

But the ice cream shop had its own booth at a recent Missouri Western State University job fair, along with banks, social service providers, clothing retailers and a bowling alley. There was even a manufacturer advertising $1,000 signing bonuses.

They were all chasing the one element that’s become scarce in this economy: workers.


In my local area, within a 3 mile area....in the last two weeks the following places have closed up.
Qdoba, Subway, Wendys, and two Waffle Houses have had to close for at least part of the time due to staffing issues

I realize these jobs all have common themes....but these were the first jobs many had right out of high school, and launched you onto bigger and better things. If these jobs are no longer going to be around.....what is the next cycle of juniors going to do for their first jobs? The ones not going to college or technical schools?

We have over 10 million unfilled jobs in this country RIGHT NOW....jobs people dont want to fill at the rate offered. Okay. And those jobs are disappearing now that businesses are closing down. Maybe you think that is a good thing....i think it sucks. It will depend on how long people can spend at the teat of government before they have to forage for themselves again.
 

When Ryan McDowell bought the Baskin-Robbins franchise in St. Joseph, he never realized it would be this hard finding employees to scoop ice cream.

But the ice cream shop had its own booth at a recent Missouri Western State University job fair, along with banks, social service providers, clothing retailers and a bowling alley. There was even a manufacturer advertising $1,000 signing bonuses.

They were all chasing the one element that’s become scarce in this economy: workers.


In my local area, within a 3 mile area....in the last two weeks the following places have closed up.
Qdoba, Subway, Wendys, and two Waffle Houses have had to close for at least part of the time due to staffing issues

I realize these jobs all have common themes....but these were the first jobs many had right out of high school, and launched you onto bigger and better things. If these jobs are no longer going to be around.....what is the next cycle of juniors going to do for their first jobs? The ones not going to college or technical schools?

We have over 10 million unfilled jobs in this country RIGHT NOW....jobs people dont want to fill at the rate offered. Okay. And those jobs are disappearing now that businesses are closing down. Maybe you think that is a good thing....i think it sucks. It will depend on how long people can spend at the teat of government before they have to forage for themselves again.
Maybe the moron Right should have allowed those Mexicans in after all. Now, they whine about a shortage of low skilled workers.

Do those idiots ever think? No. Of course not. They cannot think past their hate.

I bet they do not even see the obvious connection. They are stupid like that.
 
Maybe the moron Right should have allowed those Mexicans in after all. Now they whine about a shortage of low skilled workers.

Do those idiots ever think? No.

No, they cannot think past their hate.
So, just checking here, your argument is for illegal labor?
 
They are about to be introduced to the " Cancel Culture "
That ought to woke them up .

The 22 States Canceling Pandemic Unemployment Benefits Early​

August 8, 2021
 
So, just checking here, your argument is for illegal labor?
Only in your baffling imagination. You know, since the stupid thing you wrote was not in my post.
 
Only in your baffling imagination. You know, since the stupid thing you wrote was not in my post.
A caricature of disagreement. The only Mexicans that Americans object to immigrating are those doing so illegally. So the labor pool you refer to are not legal to hire as employees.

Its not my imagination, its the logical examination of your trolling bullshit. Quit posting trolling bullshit.
 
Maybe the moron Right should have allowed those Mexicans in after all. Now, they whine about a shortage of low skilled workers.

Do those idiots ever think? No. Of course not. They cannot think past their hate.

I bet they do not even see the obvious connection. They are stupid like that.
The drug and the human traffic cartels are the only ones " allowing " Mexicans at this point .
Depending on what price they are willing to pay .
But you do have a point low skilled juvenile sex workers are in great demand in America .
 
The drug and the human traffic cartels are the only ones " allowing " Mexicans at this point .
Depending on what price they are willing to pay .
But you do have a point low skilled juvenile sex workers are in great demand in America .
Wow, that ^ is one hell of a stupid post. Bravo. You win the award for the Dumbest thing said on the Internet Today.
 
A caricature of disagreement. The only Mexicans that Americans object to immigrating are those doing so illegally. ...
That's a lie.


Try not to lie all the time, OC. You are not nearly smart enough to get away with it.
 
Wow, that ^ is one hell of a stupid post. Bravo. You win the award for the Dumbest thing said on the Internet Today.
You are right, you do have to be a special kind of ignorant not to know the criminal control of our border .

Border Patrol: Mexican cartels ‘charging every person that comes across’​

IMMIGRATION
Federal agencies improve internal communications to deal with migrant surge on pace to rival levels not seen in 20 years
 
You are right, you do have to be a special kind of ignorant not to know the criminal control of our border .

Border Patrol: Mexican cartels ‘charging every person that comes across’​

IMMIGRATION
Federal agencies improve internal communications to deal with migrant surge on pace to rival levels not seen in 20 years
Doubling down on dumb is just doubly dumb. After all, you can only win the award once per day.
 
Doubling down on dumb is just doubly dumb. After all, you can only win the award once per day.
Yes stupid is, as stupid denies .
But then as you demonstrate why should a hateful wealthy white privilege care what happens to people of color .
Judging by color what fate they should endure .
Pure evil.
World

Mexican cartels move into human trafficking​

 
So, just checking here, your argument is for illegal labor?
It already exists, who do you think picks your friend or cleans the toilets of rich people?
Got news for ya: YOU and most home grown Americans would never pick fruit nor clean toilets nor do the dirty work illegals do.
Hell, even with Trump yelling from the rooftops about illegals, he hired them for his casinos and resorts.
Got that? Trump the big illegal hunter hired illegals. Maybe you should write to him and ask him why.
 
Yes stupid is, as stupid denies .
But then as you demonstrate why should a hateful wealthy white privilege care what happens to people of color .
Judging by color what fate they should endure .
Pure evil.
World

Mexican cartels move into human trafficking​

Tripling down on stupid now, eh?

SMH
 
Didn't take long for this discussion to get into the weeds and off topic and make it about illegals.

SO - to answer the question:

Well documented on several news services (no, not just leftist ones), workers paid low wages forced off the job got to thinking "am I really going to go back to minimum wage jobs?" That is why the likes of Walmart are increasing wages.

Also the job situation is going to change when the relief money runs out, in a year from now we won't be talking about this any more, but at least in the interim wages ARE going up, one of the only side benefits from having had a pandemic.
 
They are about to be introduced to the " Cancel Culture "
That ought to woke them up .
There is no doubt Covid is still playing a huge role in keeping people out of the job market, especially women who often make up the workforce in the fast food industry. The last jobs report showed there was actually a further loss of employment in the restaurant and leisure sectors as employers once again started laying off people due to reductions in customers as a result of the Covid surge in some areas.

As far as the ending of top up benefits in those 22 States studies by the Labour Department showed that the stopping of benefits had a small impact on job growth in those States. The figures were 1.3% for States that kept the benefits and 1.7% for those that ended them. The study showed that most What may help is back to school easing the issue of childcare. Then again if Covid continues as it is and resistors refuse to get vaccinated kids may be ping-ponged back and forth from in class to distance learning parents may not be able to get back to work

It is truly unfortunate that the unvaccinated can't seem to connect the dots between their resistance and the economy.

ETA I can't find the article quoting the percentages I think it may have been the Associated press but there are several articles available that talk about the minimal impact on job growth from benefit cuts. Here is an excerpt if you hit a paywall.

"A total of 26 states, all but one with Republican governors, have moved to end some or all of the expanded unemployment benefits that have been in place since the pandemic began. The governors, along with many business owners, have argued that the benefits discourage returning to work when many employers are struggling to hire.

Several recent studies, however, have concluded that the extra payments have played only a small role in this year’s labor shortages. And they found at most a modest increase in employment in states that abandoned the programs — most of them in June — even as millions of jobless workers have had to cut spending, potentially hurting local economies.

“The idea was that there were lots of jobs — it was just that people weren’t looking. That was the narrative,” said Arindrajit Dube, a University of Massachusetts economist who was an author of one of the studies. “I don’t think that story holds up.”

 
Maybe, just maybe, people want more money and respect while working and even a 1k bonus ain't cutting it. Who wants to work their ass off for minimum wage only to have to bow down to some Karen screaming at them because her ice cream wasn't cold enough?
 

When Ryan McDowell bought the Baskin-Robbins franchise in St. Joseph, he never realized it would be this hard finding employees to scoop ice cream.

But the ice cream shop had its own booth at a recent Missouri Western State University job fair, along with banks, social service providers, clothing retailers and a bowling alley. There was even a manufacturer advertising $1,000 signing bonuses.

They were all chasing the one element that’s become scarce in this economy: workers.


In my local area, within a 3 mile area....in the last two weeks the following places have closed up.
Qdoba, Subway, Wendys, and two Waffle Houses have had to close for at least part of the time due to staffing issues

I realize these jobs all have common themes....but these were the first jobs many had right out of high school, and launched you onto bigger and better things. If these jobs are no longer going to be around.....what is the next cycle of juniors going to do for their first jobs? The ones not going to college or technical schools?

We have over 10 million unfilled jobs in this country RIGHT NOW....jobs people dont want to fill at the rate offered. Okay. And those jobs are disappearing now that businesses are closing down. Maybe you think that is a good thing....i think it sucks. It will depend on how long people can spend at the teat of government before they have to forage for themselves again.
If a business closes down for lack of workers willing to accept low wages then the business is doomed no matter what or it is foolishly managed. Remember the now ousted Papa John's CEO ranting he needed to ad a nickel surcharge to each pizza due to the ACA??? Foolish or arrogant- you pick.

The unemployment rate isn't alarmingly high, many businesses are raising wages, giving bonuses, benefit packages to attract and keep workers. Why would someone scoop ice cream for minimum wage when they can work elsewhere for 10 bucks an hour plus medical?

The capitalist business model of supply and demand. The gubmint teat isn't stopping workers accepting low wages and no benefits- other businesses luring good, dependable workers is the 'culprit'.

Now do you think forcing someone off the gubmint teat to scoop ice cream is a winning business model??? I'd propose in certain areas there simply aren't enough right out of high school workers in surplus to fill the dead end, entry level jobs that only pay the minimum. It should be a wake-up call to ice cream shops when McDonalds boosted entry level pay.

If hand dipped ice cream is a demand of the American consumer someone will figure out how to do it and make money... ✌️
 
Didn't take long for this discussion to get into the weeds and off topic and make it about illegals.

SO - to answer the question:

Well documented on several news services (no, not just leftist ones), workers paid low wages forced off the job got to thinking "am I really going to go back to minimum wage jobs?" That is why the likes of Walmart are increasing wages.

Also the job situation is going to change when the relief money runs out, in a year from now we won't be talking about this any more, but at least in the interim wages ARE going up, one of the only side benefits from having had a pandemic.

but none of these are MINIMUM wage jobs anymore here

Wendys had a sign with wages starting at $ 12 hr.....almost everyone is at $ 11-13 hr to start for no skill jobs with MW in state at $ 7.25

Franchises and mom and pop small businesses can only pay x amount before shutting their doors.....and that now is what is happening
 

When Ryan McDowell bought the Baskin-Robbins franchise in St. Joseph, he never realized it would be this hard finding employees to scoop ice cream.

But the ice cream shop had its own booth at a recent Missouri Western State University job fair, along with banks, social service providers, clothing retailers and a bowling alley. There was even a manufacturer advertising $1,000 signing bonuses.

They were all chasing the one element that’s become scarce in this economy: workers.


In my local area, within a 3 mile area....in the last two weeks the following places have closed up.
Qdoba, Subway, Wendys, and two Waffle Houses have had to close for at least part of the time due to staffing issues

I realize these jobs all have common themes....but these were the first jobs many had right out of high school, and launched you onto bigger and better things. If these jobs are no longer going to be around.....what is the next cycle of juniors going to do for their first jobs? The ones not going to college or technical schools?

We have over 10 million unfilled jobs in this country RIGHT NOW....jobs people dont want to fill at the rate offered. Okay. And those jobs are disappearing now that businesses are closing down. Maybe you think that is a good thing....i think it sucks. It will depend on how long people can spend at the teat of government before they have to forage for themselves again.

I'd have to research this but my personal experience tells me that teenagers and college-age students are not taking the lowest wage jobs like they did even 10 years ago.

I suppose if I had a kid who was 16 to 22 and attending school, I'd prefer to give them some spending money rather than have them potentially contract covid from a fast-food job.
 

When Ryan McDowell bought the Baskin-Robbins franchise in St. Joseph, he never realized it would be this hard finding employees to scoop ice cream.

But the ice cream shop had its own booth at a recent Missouri Western State University job fair, along with banks, social service providers, clothing retailers and a bowling alley. There was even a manufacturer advertising $1,000 signing bonuses.

They were all chasing the one element that’s become scarce in this economy: workers.


In my local area, within a 3 mile area....in the last two weeks the following places have closed up.
Qdoba, Subway, Wendys, and two Waffle Houses have had to close for at least part of the time due to staffing issues

I realize these jobs all have common themes....but these were the first jobs many had right out of high school, and launched you onto bigger and better things. If these jobs are no longer going to be around.....what is the next cycle of juniors going to do for their first jobs? The ones not going to college or technical schools?

We have over 10 million unfilled jobs in this country RIGHT NOW....jobs people dont want to fill at the rate offered. Okay. And those jobs are disappearing now that businesses are closing down. Maybe you think that is a good thing....i think it sucks. It will depend on how long people can spend at the teat of government before they have to forage for themselves again.
Parents now give their kids money for doing nothing, so there is no motivation for the kids to pursue work. People think giving their kids everything is making them special, when fact is many only breed future potential criminals, because they never learn to earn for themselves. That bull crap people watch on Lifetime Movies of a bunch of well to do spoiled kids, produce a lot of those malicious one that take that madness on to university campuses, and some could out, with a sense of entitlement, and the result to the public is they get positions and titles and any scam sounds good to them if they think they get paid a bonus.
what the public gets is "less services", "poor low quality goods" and claims of strained profits, but they never look at the excesses that are paid to these so called 4 yr wonders, they pay more than they are worth, when these 4yr wonders don't have any experience and many have no idea how the world works in the working class society.
Many young people who come out with these titles and high pay, have no concept of the business or corporate responsibility to the community they exist.

Adults are not running around looking to scoop ice cream when they have rent, upkeep, utilities, car payment, insurance and mouth's to feed. We see all these Pizza places claiming to pay so much, and people find out, its nothing more than "spin", when they find out that the rate of pay has no consistency or stability in earnings.
People also are not going to rush back to all these eateries that are complaining, to be paid $2-$3 hr. and told to rely on the generosity of the customers for the rest, and then tell them they have to split their tips with the other employees. Pay the people a living wage and any tips they earn has nothing to do with the business owners, most of the business owner can't make tips a mandatory part of the bill.

Too many of these Franchise owners, don't even show up at their businesses, they are too busy living good off the labor of the people, while paying someone $10-11 hr and calling them a Manager.

Before they start whining and crying about no employees, they should sit down and figure out what it cost a person to live, and they'd know what its not worth the peoples time, to come to make less than it takes to pay their monthly expense.

Some people work those jobs and rely on pay day loans, or have to budget based on 45 days instead of 30 days, and end up having bad credit and late payments, and then the business wonder why they are not "inspired and happy employees".

It's about as dumb as slaver's who gave the people nothing and then expected them to be inspired, motivated and happy just to produce high profits for the slave owners. America needs to get that business mentality modeling out of their systems and minds.
 
I'd have to research this but my personal experience tells me that teenagers and college-age students are not taking the lowest wage jobs like they did even 10 years ago.

I suppose if I had a kid who was 16 to 22 and attending school, I'd prefer to give them some spending money rather than have them potentially contract covid from a fast-food job.
my kids are grown, all graduated, and all out of the house

but they worked while they went to college....i didnt care if it was 15 hrs a week, but i wanted them to stand partially on their own feet

Covid does change some of the factors....which i totally get....but if vaccinated, you should be okay

I dont know...like i said before...eventually this will end, and i wonder how many of these jobs lost will return

And to the poster above....i LOVE going to my local ice cream parlor in my little town and getting a hand dipped scoop

And yes, it will be a DAMN SHAME if those types of shops can no longer function in this here economy
 
We see all these Pizza places claiming to pay so much, and people find out, its nothing more than "spin", when they find out that the rate of pay has no consistency or stability in earnings.
This ^

I have some friends who work at Target. When Target raised their minimum pay to $15, they increased workloads and cut hours. And the hours are so inconsistent it's nearly impossible to juggle another in-person job because you never know when you are going to be scheduled. Some weeks they get 30 hours, some weeks they get 7.
 

When Ryan McDowell bought the Baskin-Robbins franchise in St. Joseph, he never realized it would be this hard finding employees to scoop ice cream.

But the ice cream shop had its own booth at a recent Missouri Western State University job fair, along with banks, social service providers, clothing retailers and a bowling alley. There was even a manufacturer advertising $1,000 signing bonuses.

They were all chasing the one element that’s become scarce in this economy: workers.


In my local area, within a 3 mile area....in the last two weeks the following places have closed up.
Qdoba, Subway, Wendys, and two Waffle Houses have had to close for at least part of the time due to staffing issues

I realize these jobs all have common themes....but these were the first jobs many had right out of high school, and launched you onto bigger and better things. If these jobs are no longer going to be around.....what is the next cycle of juniors going to do for their first jobs? The ones not going to college or technical schools?

We have over 10 million unfilled jobs in this country RIGHT NOW....jobs people dont want to fill at the rate offered. Okay. And those jobs are disappearing now that businesses are closing down. Maybe you think that is a good thing....i think it sucks. It will depend on how long people can spend at the teat of government before they have to forage for themselves again.
If a business was unable to operate except by underpaid staff, then that business can't afford to be in business.

The shoe is on the other foot now. Workers aren't going to do these "crappy little jobs" that also happen to be vital, essential, for businesses to remain open...without better compensation.

I wonder...before closing, what were the owners and managers of that subway, Wendy, etc, making?

A damn site more than what they were willing to pay their most important workers, I imagine.
 
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