ADK_Forever
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Seriously,
I see people calling Obama the One or the messiah. Obviously it is in jest, but where does this idea come from?
Everyone I know in RL has either voted for him or against him because of his proposed policies. Am I living in a bubble or something?
This is the extreme right's ubiquitous method of trying to belittle their opponent by... name calling. :roll: A barometer of how scared they are of him is the level of this childish behavior. The higher the frequency this occurs, and the sillier the names... the more scared the right is. Obviously, they are very, very scared lately. :2wave:
Frankly, ADK, with Obama's "royal staff" jammed so deeply down your throat, I don't know how you manage to type your apologist bilge.
Much better, but you have some factual errors. Let's look at an actual quote from the Beck article on Holdren:
Notice we are not talking semantics, we are talking an entirely different situation.
Next you point to an article rating Obama's health care claim as a half truth. You point out that the CBO article which scores it differently. The problem with this claim is that the CBO analasys came out March 19th, while the politifact article came out February 1st. So apparently Politifact is biased because they did not use information that was not available yet.
As far as the Obamameter, this is where you get really amusing. They are tracking over 500 promises. Of course many are going to be trivial. The big stuff mixed in with the trivial happens in each of the sections.
let's do:
from Holdren's book Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, co-authored with well known Maltusiast Paul Erhlich; as quoted on the Politifact site:
The third approach to population limitation is that of involuntary fertility control. Several coercive proposals deserve discussion, mainly because some countries may ultimately have to resort to them unless current trends in birth rates are rapidly reversed by other means... Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock... Compulsory control of family size is an unpalatable idea, but the alternatives may be much more horrifying. As those alternatives become clearer to an increasing number of people in the 1980s, they may begin demanding such control. A far better choice, in our view, is to expand the use of milder methods of influencing family size preferences, while redoubling efforts to ensure that the means of birth control, including abortion and sterilization, are accessible to every human being on Earth within the shortest possible time. If effective action is taken promptly against population growth, perhaps the need for the more extreme involuntary or repressive measures can be averted in most countries.
so if they didn't 'propose' (that is, in fact, a proposal, even if they admit it is a problematic one), forced sterilants and forced family planning, they gave it as an option and then declared that it was superior to no population limitation. then he stated that, if voluntary measures were followed, most countries would not require it in order to avoid a worse fate. which means, by exension, that some would.
actually, no, at this point it has become at best semantics.
yup. you will notice if you peruse the polling websites, factcheck.org, and other similar functioning groups, they are constantly updating their information. every time new facts become available, they get folded in. yet when information becomes available that would prove embarrassing to the narrative that politifact prefers, somehow, oddly, they don't update their site. huh.
agreed. my problem is with their "promises broken" section, where they deliberately give the impression that they are actually tracking, you know, all the promises he's broken.
for example, were I to say "heck, the Honda Accord isn't the best thing in the world, why, it only get's 55 miles to the gallon, and if you hit it with a full-size battleship, some of it's passengers can get hurt"... that would actually be me praising the Honda Accord, in the context of pretending to criticize it. that is what Politifact has done with it's Obameter; and it's funny. ;p
Correct it was that famous "right winger/republican" Louis Farrakhan that coined the "messiah" nickname. Chuckle. And don't forget that "chill" that the messiah ran up the leg of Chris Matthews..............
This is the extreme right's ubiquitous method of trying to belittle their opponent by... name calling. :roll: A barometer of how scared they are of him is the level of this childish behavior. The higher the frequency this occurs, and the sillier the names... the more scared the right is. Obviously, they are very, very scared lately. :2wave:
Aunt Spiker said:For me the joke came from images depicted Obama with a halo-like ring or aura of light around him. . . various online and magazine images as well as some mainstream media propaganda.
VanceMack said:Perhaps it was the tendency for the media to portray him with Godly/angelic backdrops...auras...while he was running...
Correct it was that famous "right winger/republican" Louis Farrakhan that coined the "messiah" nickname. Chuckle. And don't forget that "chill" that the messiah ran up the leg of Chris Matthews..............
So, one would have to find an extremist to quote in order to make fun of liberals/democrats?
Is there anything more mainstream, perhaps someone who is taken seriously by more than 1% of the population perhaps?
So, one would have to find an extremist to quote in order to make fun of liberals/democrats?
Is there anything more mainstream, perhaps someone who is taken seriously by more than 1% of the population perhaps?
It should be called the tea potty, :toilet:
I did not cite a source, someone else did. I think it was newsbusters. A simple Google search will reveal pages and pages of results on the subject and the appropriate chronological documentation as well. Newsbusters completely missed the boat, the phrase was picked up and reported by the "echo chamber" and it has become synonymous with Obama's presidency.
Not surprisingly one the most rabid lefty posters at DP is quite active and on record about the term "teabaggers" being a creation of the right and therefore they just better get used to hearing it, deal with it.................
Obama the messiah, get used to hearing it, deal with it................
I think you made a pretty useful comparison here. The term teabagger did get its start in the tea party circles by those who did not realize that there was a sexual connotation to the term. Then, it was picked up by those who would wish to denigrate the movement and it became in epithet.
Obama being the messiah, the one, etc is the same thing. It was started on the left and was picked up by the right for the same purposes as the left uses teabagger.
Even with your selective quote, it proves the point that Politifact made. He did not advocate forced abortions, he advocated free access to abortions.
This does not indicate bias.
You are not pointing to any evidence of a lbias anywhere but in your imagination.
You would need evidence of, you know, bias, not "OMG, they have too many promises".
I really hate the tea party. I think they are mostly about class warfare.
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Seriously,
I see people calling Obama the One or the messiah. Obviously it is in jest, but where does this idea come from?
Everyone I know in RL has either voted for him or against him because of his proposed policies. Am I living in a bubble or something?
Equally foolish.
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