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When will USA accept their crimes against Japan?

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AkiraYamato

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I always wonder, when USA will accept, that they commited terrible crimes against the japanese people?

In WW II americans killed most japanese soldiers even if they surrendered.
When americans sunk a a japanese ship, it was common to kill the survivors.
And the most terrible crime in entire history...Hiroshima and Nagasaki...

Japan is a rich country, we want no money. We just want that USA stand to their crimes and honor the victims of that terrible massacres.
 
I always wonder, when USA will accept, that they commited terrible crimes against the japanese people?

In WW II americans killed most japanese soldiers even if they surrendered.
When americans sunk a a japanese ship, it was common to kill the survivors.
And the most terrible crime in entire history...Hiroshima and Nagasaki...
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I disagree. Firebombing Dresden was worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki put together. Of course, that was us too.

The Trail of Tears might have even been worse than that.

I don't personally feel compelled to apologize for anything that happened before I was born.
 
We want no apology. We want that americans teach their war crimes in their schools.
 
AkiraYamato said:
We want no apology. We want that americans teach their war crimes in their schools.
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Uhmmm who attacked whom? I do not think it was the USA. And we kicked Japan's ass rightfully so.
 
We want no apology. We want that americans teach their war crimes in their schools.
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The firebombing of Dresden, the Trail of Tears, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are all things that I learned about in school, so it seems you have your wish.
 
Panache said:
The firebombing of Dresden, the Trail of Tears, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are all things that I learned about in school, so it seems you have your wish.
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Terrible things to do but they had to be done.
 
So what do schools in Japan have to say about Nanjing?
 
winston53660 said:
Uhmmm who attacked whom? I do not think it was the USA. And we kicked Japan's ass rightfully so.
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My grandmother beheaded 6 americans with a wire that she placed over the street as she was 14 years old. Shes not happy about it, but it had to be done.

Its sad, that you value not human life.
 
AkiraYamato said:
I always wonder, when USA will accept, that they commited terrible crimes against the japanese people?

In WW II americans killed most japanese soldiers even if they surrendered.
When americans sunk a a japanese ship, it was common to kill the survivors.
And the most terrible crime in entire history...Hiroshima and Nagasaki...

Japan is a rich country, we want no money. We just want that USA stand to their crimes and honor the victims of that terrible massacres.
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the cruelty of war was most definitely reciprocal. and now the countries enjoy amiable relations with one another.
 
How's Japan doing with what they did China? From what I understand from my friend who grew up in Japan, not very well at all. Here's one naughty thing they did.
The Japanese government should acknowledge that thousands of foreign women were forced to serve as sex slaves for Japanese troops in World War II, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing said Tuesday.
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Quid pro quo, Dr Lecter.
 
Terrible things to do but they had to be done.
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Nonsense. Give me one good reason why the Trail of Tears was neccessary.
 
shuamort said:
How's Japan doing with what they did China? From what I understand from my friend who grew up in Japan, not very well at all. Here's one naughty thing they did.


Quid pro quo, Dr Lecter.
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We should talk about crimes between humans.
With all respect, but for evry dead chinese, 100 new are born in the same second.
 
AkiraYamato said:
We should talk about crimes between humans.
With all respect, but for evry dead chinese, 100 new are born in the same second.
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And then you lost any semblance of argument you had.
 
My grandmother beheaded 6 americans with a wire that she placed over the street as she was 14 years old. Shes not happy about it, but it had to be done.

Its sad, that you value not human life.
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It is equally sad that you grandmother did not value human life.

When we dropped nuclear bombs on Japan we weren't happy about it, but we thought it had to be done. Just like your grandmother did.
 
Panache said:
Nonsense. Give me one good reason why the Trail of Tears was neccessary.
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Okay you are right about that.I will maintain however that nuking Japan was a necessary evil.
 
Okay you are right about that.I will maintain however that nuking Japan was a necessary evil.
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I think you are probably correct about that. Japan didn't seem that interested in conceding prior to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, so it was clearly instrumental in ending the conflict (unlike Dresden).

If we hadn't, it is likely that the war would have continued and racked up an even larger number of deaths. Besides, if it kept them from raping another 20,000 Chinese girls at Nanjing then it was totally worth it.
 
Panache said:
I think you are probably correct about that. Japan didn't seem that interested in conceding prior to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, so it was clearly instrumental in ending the conflict (unlike Dresden).

If we hadn't, it is likely that the war would have continued and racked up an even larger number of deaths. Besides, if it kept them from raping another 20,000 Chinese girls at Nanjing then it was totally worth it.
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I think we are on the same page.
 
A Japanese, who thinks, Chinese are no humans, argues with Americans, who think, terrorism is necessary.

We reached a new level, I guess.
 
The Japanese were completely screwed when Nagasaki and Hiroshima dropped, anyway. It was, in my eyes, a 'look at my cool new weapon' thing. Ridiculous.

And, as everyone says, nearly all countries committed atrocities. The Japanese had the Nanking Massacre, the appalling treatment of POWs in Burma, whilst Russia had the labour camps, the rape and mistreatment of civlians in their occupied soon, Americans sending 12 year-old boys to jail for life and so on. Men are pushed to do awful things during war time.
 
AkiraYamato said:
I always wonder, when USA will accept, that they commited terrible crimes against the japanese people?

In WW II americans killed most japanese soldiers even if they surrendered.
When americans sunk a a japanese ship, it was common to kill the survivors.
And the most terrible crime in entire history...Hiroshima and Nagasaki...

Japan is a rich country, we want no money. We just want that USA stand to their crimes and honor the victims of that terrible massacres.
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that is true, they are wrong. They always focus on Japanese/German atrocities, while they very rarely mention their own atrocities

Allied war crimes during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chenogne massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dachau massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Biscari massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rheinwiesenlager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
American mutilation of Japanese war dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Allied war crimes during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Keelhaul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

but the Japanese are not better, your history books are revisionnist

Forgiving the Culprits: Japanese Historical Revisionism in a Post-Cold War Context - Ingyu Oh and Douglas Ishizawa-Grbi; The International Journal for Peace Studies
Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Its disgusting, that some fascists here agree with the murdering of 300.000 people.
 
bub said:
that is true, they are wrong. They always focus on Japanese/German atrocities, while they very rarely mention their own atrocities

Allied war crimes during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chenogne massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dachau massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Biscari massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rheinwiesenlager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
American mutilation of Japanese war dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Allied war crimes during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Keelhaul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

but the Japanese are not better, your history books are revisionnist

Forgiving the Culprits: Japanese Historical Revisionism in a Post-Cold War Context - Ingyu Oh and Douglas Ishizawa-Grbi; The International Journal for Peace Studies
Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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War crimes happen on all sides, I agree. It is a function of the terrible stress placed on men in wartime.

But you cannot compare the examples of American war crimes, limited, isolated incidents, with the government sanctioned and systematic slaughter that occured by the Germans and Japanese.
 
Iriemon said:
War crimes happen on all sides, I agree. It is a function of the terrible stress placed on men in wartime.

But you cannot compare the examples of American war crimes, limited, isolated incidents, with the government sanctioned and systematic slaughter that occured by the Germans and Japanese.
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You can compare it very well.

You can very well compare what happened in Auschwitz, Hiroshima, Nagasaki or Dresden.

The main difference is, that people who did it from Japan or Germany had to go to court house after the war, while people from America who did it, got money from their government.
 
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