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When Will Trump Bow Out Of The President Race?

When Will Trump Bow Out Of The President Race?

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I think it's a good question. When I first heard he was in the race I thought it was just a joke. But last week or so, he has shown he is quite serious. He has enough money and ego to finance his own campaign. Why not spend a billion or two to put yourself in the history books? One of 44 who has ever held the job.
 
When the polling shows he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning the nomination.
 
pbrauer said:
I think it's a good question. When I first heard he was in the race I thought it was just a joke. But last week or so, he has shown he is quite serious. He has enough money and ego to finance his own campaign. Why not spend a billion or two to put yourself in the history books? One of 44 who has ever held the job.
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He will never bow out, I disagree that he has show that he is serious. He has shown himself as a shallow and arrogant clown. He has not answered any questions with serious substance, he continually repeats himself, and gives himself praise for being a dishonest snake that will do anything it takes to accomplish his stated goals (that is adding to his own net worth), leaving a wake of paid off politicians in his rear view mirror. He freely admits he has done this and thinks it's to his credit. serious? not even close.
 
johndylan1 said:
He will never bow out, I disagree that he has show that he is serious. He has shown himself as a shallow and arrogant clown. He has not answered any questions with serious substance, he continually repeats himself, and gives himself praise for being a dishonest snake that will do anything it takes to accomplish his stated goals (that is adding to his own net worth), leaving a wake of paid off politicians in his rear view mirror. He freely admits he has done this and thinks it's to his credit. serious? not even close.
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When I said 'serious' I didn't mean he was a serious candidate, only that he is serious about going all the way to election day.
 
Trump is the sideshow that is becoming the Republican's worst nightmare. Every day he is in the race is a day that obscures whatever substantive comments the real candidates have. It is likely, if not highly probable, that he will get ticked off at the Republicans and do a third party run (which his child like ego will tell him to do and his polling will re-enforce), which will absolutely neutralize the modest chance the Republicans do have to win back the White House.

The 2016 race without Trump has enough clowns to run a circus. With Trump, the laughter will not be contained in the big tent, but will like be world-wide. Republicans that want a say in the 2016 presidential race might check the rules about voting in the Democratic primarily in their respective states, as that is where the election will likely be decided.

BTW, the most telling thing I am seeing in this current cast of characters running for the Republican nomination: the want to tell you how tough they are, ready to stare down an Ayatollah, yet they are scared *****less of the Donald.
 
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pbrauer said:
I think it's a good question. When I first heard he was in the race I thought it was just a joke. But last week or so, he has shown he is quite serious. He has enough money and ego to finance his own campaign. Why not spend a billion or two to put yourself in the history books? One of 44 who has ever held the job.
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Hell if I know. All I know is that is forcing the Republicans to actually get their acts together which I think is a good thing, as well as getting exposure for candidates that haven't much until he blew things up.
 
he's got $300 mil in liquid assets, which won't get him there if the donations stop. an independent run would be horrendously expensive. he'll spend a chunk of it to keep going after the donors stop giving him anything, but not all of it. he's a businessman, so i doubt he'll put himself in financial peril when it becomes obvious that he can't win. more obvious, i mean.
 
pbrauer said:
I think it's a good question. When I first heard he was in the race I thought it was just a joke. But last week or so, he has shown he is quite serious. He has enough money and ego to finance his own campaign. Why not spend a billion or two to put yourself in the history books? One of 44 who has ever held the job.
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I would like to see a race between by Bernie and the Donald.
 
Excon said:
When the polling shows he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning the nomination.
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I would say the odds are long against him since it seem the party would unite against him even if he had early success in New Hampshire and Iowa. But then the party deals itself a potential lethal dose of poison by stopping Trump at all costs - and thus we get his third party run.

So stopping Trump may also kill GOP chances in November.

I must say this is shaping up quite wonderfully if one is a Democrat.
 
I suspect that Trump enjoys the spotlight so much that he will go independent and with his own money get on the ticket in several states.

In that case, I have not seen any studies that indicates whether he would harm the far right or the far left more.

I am wondering if the damage done would not be about equal to the GOP and the DEM's.

Hopefully one of the polling agencies will sort that out and publish it for us.

Poll Q1 -- do you favor Trump?

Poll Q2 -- did you vote in 2012?

Poll Q3 -- did you vote in 2008?

Poll Q4 -- if you voted did you register R, D, or I ?
 
Helix said:
he's got $300 mil in liquid assets, which won't get him there if the donations stop. an independent run would be horrendously expensive. he'll spend a chunk of it to keep going after the donors stop giving him anything, but not all of it. he's a businessman, so i doubt he'll put himself in financial peril when it becomes obvious that he can't win. more obvious, i mean.
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The above is the most logical analysis I have yet seen.

I can't understand why anyone would "contribute" to The Donald however. People normally do not contribute to the ultra rich. The ultra rich are not popular. They are normally the object of envy and hate.

So it seems to me that so far The Donald is using his own money.

I suspect he is addicted to the spotlight now and will waste however much money he needs to keep feeding his ego.

I really don't think campaign contributions have anything to do with The Donald.
 
upsideguy said:
Trump is the sideshow that is becoming the Republican's worst nightmare. Every day he is in the race is a day that obscures whatever substantive comments the real candidates have. It is likely, if not highly probable, that he will get ticked off at the Republicans and do a third party run (which his child like ego will tell him to do and his polling will re-enforce), which will absolutely neutralize the modest chance the Republicans do have to win back the White House.

The 2016 race without Trump has enough clowns to run a circus. With Trump, the laughter will not be contained in the big tent, but will like be world-wide. Republicans that want a say in the 2016 presidential race might check the rules about voting in the Democratic primarily in their respective states, as that is where the election will likely be decided.

BTW, the most telling thing I am seeing in this current cast of characters running for the Republican nomination: the want to tell you how tough they are, ready to stare down an Ayatollah, yet they are scared *****less of the Donald.
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You're right, I know.

Hillary is probably loving all this.

She could not have ever asked for anything better.

It is not surprising that some wacko would come out of the woodwork on the GOP side.

Trump however is more like an Independent than GOP however. His views span both GOP and DEM sides.

However he has consistently chosen the GOP to afflict with his own presence.

Maybe it's because the GOP is the party that favors tax cuts for the rich and ultra rich, like Romney, and so that is where he feels most comfortable.

I would not call Trump a GOP other than in name only.
 
haymarket said:
I would say the odds are long against him
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That is not what the current polls are showing.
And yes I stress current, things can and may likely change. Which way they will change is not now known.


haymarket said:
since it seem the party would unite against him even if he had early success in New Hampshire and Iowa.

But then the party deals itself a potential lethal dose of poison by stopping Trump at all costs - and thus we get his third party run.

So stopping Trump may also kill GOP chances in November.
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The Party as in establishment? Sure. The Party as in the people? It currently doesn't look that way.

Which was likely the establishment's plan to get Bush in. The lower tier candidates would throw their support and therefore their won delegates to Bush.
Trump disrupts that plan if he starts winning winner takes all States.

Which then goes to the Party treating him fairly. If he wins by the numbers and they don't support him, he is and should run third party. And in this case his appeal may just be enough to increase his numbers and win.
A recent Poll showed that of 19% of the Democrat voters polled supported Trump but 9% wouldn't vote for him. Showing he has appeal that crosses Party boundaries.


haymarket said:
I must say this is shaping up quite wonderfully if one is a Democrat.
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If you think so. iLOL
Hillary simply won't win.
And Sanders against any Republican isn't gong to be an issue.
So where is the dark horse?
 
Excon said:
That is not what the current polls are showing.
And yes I stress current, things can and may likely change. Which way they will change is not now known.


The Party as in establishment? Sure. The Party as in the people? It currently doesn't look that way.

Which was likely the establishment's plan to get Bush in. The lower tier candidates would throw their support and therefore their won delegates to Bush.
Trump disrupts that plan if he starts winning winner takes all States.

Which then goes to the Party treating him fairly. If he wins by the numbers and they don't support him, he is and should run third party. And in this case his appeal may just be enough to increase his numbers and win.
A recent Poll showed that of 19% of the Democrat voters polled supported Trump but 9% wouldn't vote for him. Showing he has appeal that crosses Party boundaries.


If you think so. iLOL
Hillary simply won't win.
And Sanders against any Republican isn't gong to be an issue.
So where is the dark horse?
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Lets look at what the current polls are showing. Trump gets between a fifth and a quarter of the GOP primary voter support. That is NOT going to win him the nomination. Yes, its terrific right now and in a field resembling a calvary charge it gets him top spot - but he has to do far better than that to win the nomination.

Sanders will NOT be the nominee as the opinion within the party establishment is that he would be a rerun of McGovern in 72. And I suspect Sanders knows that as well as anyone and I do not think he has the "screw everybody else" streak that Trump seems to have.

Biden is the answer - no matter how much the GOP hates him and underestimates his ability. It will be Biden with a younger VP - possibly a woman. Nikki Haley of South Carolina would be a solid choice.
 
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haymarket said:
Lets look at what the current polls are showing. Trump gets between a fifth and a quarter of the GOP primary voter support. That is NOT going to win him the nomination. Yes, its terrific right now and in a field resembling a calvary charge it gets him top spot - but he has to do far better than that to win the nomination.
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It seems you did not understand the comment about winner take all States.


haymarket said:
Biden is the answer - no matter how much the GOP hates him and underestimates his ability. It will be Biden with a younger VP - possibly a woman.
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Biden? He doesn't have a chance in hell of winning a Presidential election.
Where is the dark horse?
 
Excon said:
It seems you did not understand the comment about winner take all States.


Biden? He doesn't have a chance in hell of winning a Presidential election.
Where is the dark horse?
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Perhaps I do not understand. Please explain it to me.

This link with all the rule changes should be a guide for everyone. While it looks at phase three - there are internal links to the first to phases.

Frontloading HQ: Republican Proportionality Rules Changes for 2016, Part Three

Biden will be the nominee and he will win in November.
 
pbrauer said:
I think it's a good question. When I first heard he was in the race I thought it was just a joke. But last week or so, he has shown he is quite serious. He has enough money and ego to finance his own campaign. Why not spend a billion or two to put yourself in the history books? One of 44 who has ever held the job.
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Unsure he will drop out. We know, beyond doubt, that Trump's ego and narcissism are incredibly strong. We also know based on Trump's own comments that if he does not get the Republican nod, and their "respect," that Trump would run as an Independent. Combine that with his wealth and there is no real reason for Trump to bow out no matter what happens within the Republican party once State Primaries begin. Even if Trump ends up 3rd party, and trails in the polls, I suspect he would still stay in and ensure an election day vote split that plays right into the hands of most likely Hillary Clinton.
 
Excon said:
A recent Poll showed that of 19% of the Democrat voters polled supported Trump
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I support him too, I pray he wins the GOP nom, if not, I pray he runs rogue....I'll even send some dollars if needed.....but I know he won't go all the way to Nov, he is a *****-tease.
 
OrphanSlug said:
We also know based on Trump's own comments that if he does not get the Republican nod, and their "respect," that Trump would run as an Independent.
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That is not what he said.
 
pbrauer said:
I think it's a good question. When I first heard he was in the race I thought it was just a joke. But last week or so, he has shown he is quite serious. He has enough money and ego to finance his own campaign. Why not spend a billion or two to put yourself in the history books? One of 44 who has ever held the job.
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Nobody but Trump knows what his end game is, but as long the public is supportive of the issues Trump is forcing the Progressives and the Republican Elites to talk about, he's likely to stay in the race.
 
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