Or a peace officer, or a federal agent like the FBI.
Inspired by a thread in the gun control forum. I am just wondering. Do you feel that civilians should never resist a cop/fed no matter what he does, and their only recourse is to file a lawsuit afterwards. Or do you feel that if the officer is doing something illegal, people can shoot back at him? Under what circumstances can a civilian use force against a cop?
Or a peace officer, or a federal agent like the FBI.
Inspired by a thread in the gun control forum. I am just wondering. Do you feel that civilians should never resist a cop/fed no matter what he does, and their only recourse is to file a lawsuit afterwards. Or do you feel that if the officer is doing something illegal, people can shoot back at him? Under what circumstances can a civilian use force against a cop?
Let's get this right: It's, IMO, never "okay" to shoot a person, and anyone who thinks otherwise will likely find no common ground with me. On rare occasion, it can be necessary to shoot a person.When is it OK to shoot a cop?
If he is trying to murder you or rape you or something like that. But in those cases he isn’t BEING a cop. For the overwhelming majority of instances involving police abuse of power it is just best to challenge it in court.
I think the answer is very dependent on specific fact of the incident.
Very hard to generalize something like this.
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This is just off the top of my head conjecture, from a lot of stuff I've seen and read.
Problem is it would seem most citizens, at least in the US, especially if you live in certain jurisdictions, may not have that recourse, either because you don't have the funds or the local justice system will block you for a multitude of reasons, one of the biggest issues with Law Enforcement in the United States is a massive lack of proper oversight mechanisms in many police forces, especially in smaller towns and rural areas, they don't do a good job of policing themselves and so, let's say you're in a small town and your house is raided by mistake, the two outcomes don't seem good.
So when it comes to obtaining evidence or impropriety on the part of the police, it's difficult because the blue wall of silence is exacerbated by poor or non-existent oversight.
1. You don't shoot the police, but it's really difficult to get compensation for the wrongful raid and damage it may have caused to your property and god forbid anyone was hurt, but for the reasons I mentioned about, it may be difficult for you to get recourse.
2. You believe in that moment your life is in danger, you do shoot at the police, you'll likely be killed and because of your actions, the likelihood of your family getting compensation for wrongful death given that a jury will probably side with the officers involved as they often do, you're ****ed there too.
I mean I'm only picking on a mistaken raid as an example, but I think it does highlight potential issues that come about from the OP's question.
"Never" is a strong, ambiguous word. Could there be a circumstance where shooting a LE officer would be appropriate? Yeah, possibly, but it'd be pretty damn rare.Or a peace officer, or a federal agent like the FBI.
Inspired by a thread in the gun control forum. I am just wondering. Do you feel that civilians should never resist a cop/fed no matter what he does, and their only recourse is to file a lawsuit afterwards. Or do you feel that if the officer is doing something illegal, people can shoot back at him? Under what circumstances can a civilian use force against a cop?
Or a peace officer, or a federal agent like the FBI.
Inspired by a thread in the gun control forum. I am just wondering. Do you feel that civilians should never resist a cop/fed no matter what he does, and their only recourse is to file a lawsuit afterwards. Or do you feel that if the officer is doing something illegal, people can shoot back at him? Under what circumstances can a civilian use force against a cop?
Or a peace officer, or a federal agent like the FBI.
Inspired by a thread in the gun control forum. I am just wondering. Do you feel that civilians should never resist a cop/fed no matter what he does, and their only recourse is to file a lawsuit afterwards. Or do you feel that if the officer is doing something illegal, people can shoot back at him? Under what circumstances can a civilian use force against a cop?
On a no knock warrant when they break into your house with no prior warning. In that situation shooting them is justified by self defense against armed intruders.
When is it OK to shoot a cop?
Or a peace officer, or a federal agent like the FBI.
Inspired by a thread in the gun control forum. I am just wondering. Do you feel that civilians should never resist a cop/fed no matter what he does, and their only recourse is to file a lawsuit afterwards. Or do you feel that if the officer is doing something illegal, people can shoot back at him? Under what circumstances can a civilian use force against a cop?
According to you, never. Because you have claimed, in writing many times here, that any killing is murder.
You have also claimed that killing in self-defense, war, and abortion are murder.
Let's get this right: It's, IMO, never "okay" to shoot a person, and anyone who thinks otherwise will likely find no common ground with me. On rare occasion, it can be necessary to shoot a person.
Or a peace officer, or a federal agent like the FBI.
Inspired by a thread in the gun control forum. I am just wondering. Do you feel that civilians should never resist a cop/fed no matter what he does, and their only recourse is to file a lawsuit afterwards. Or do you feel that if the officer is doing something illegal, people can shoot back at him? Under what circumstances can a civilian use force against a cop?
This is about the only sane answer someone can come up with. "Justified": depends on the situation. "Okay": If you have a modicum of respect for human life, never.
when they bust in your front door.
best thing to do is go along with the cops and settle it in court later. but if they come busting in in the middle of the night at my house .....
Never, do as you are told. If the cop is wrong then take that up with others later, certainly others in the justice system, but perhaps journalists as well.
If the cop is wrong? Ask all the black people who have been shot dead by white cops for crimes like jaywalking or playing with toy guns in a park.
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