When does it reach the point that it’s obvious it’s not us, it’s you?

[Daddyo]

My friend, your rants are so detached from reality that they pass Fiction into Fantasy.

You use California as proof of voter fraud. Which is laughable. Especially when you realize that under California law, people could check the rolls and report suspected fraud to the authorities. In 2020, they did that. As an example, in Riverside County California, a thousand reports of fraud were filed. A lot of supposedly dead voters were casting ballots according to reports. The Sheriff, and the DA’s office investigated each complaint. They went to those reported dead people and confirmed, by holding a mirror under their noses, that they were in fact, alive. They found one, out of a thousand, one case of fraud. A guy wanted to vote for Trump twice.

Vigilantes claimed voter fraud. A thousand false leads later, investigators found one case

The Riverside County investigation illustrates the challenge authorities face when dealing with allegations of massive voter fraud.

www.latimes.com

Claims of fraud abound from the Right, and when someone spends the ton of money, and tens of thousands of man hours they find, nothing. One actual case out of a thousand claims. Seriously?

Trump was no Al Gore in 2020. Al Gore left the fight in the courts, and when that was finally settled by the Supreme Court he packed up his tent and walked away.

Trump had Forged documents created. He threatened election officials to try and get them to cheat. His claims were idiotic, and just dumb.

You keep screaming that the economy is shit. More people are realizing that the economy isn’t bad at all. It’s not great yet, but it certainly isn’t shit. Unemployment is low, gas prices are dropping. They’re about $2.50 a gallon locally. Of course, we have talked about that before and you made obviously false claims about the costs to you personally.

That is always the case with the Fanboys though. False claims. I don’t understand that. I don’t understand that need. Why do you have to lie about things to make them look worse?

Do you live in a bubble? Are your groceries purchased by your servant? Are you able to see and understand what inflation was, what it rose to, and what it currently is? Have you bothered to look at what interest rates are today vs 4 years ago? Do you have amnesia as to what gas rose to for years and what it was under Trump?

Gas locally here is 3.13 a gallon. 1.13 higher than under Trump.

And have the courage to list my false claims. There is nothing I can think of that is cheaper today than under Trump. There is nothing that is better today than under Trump. Not the border, not the economy, not world hostility, nothing. Harris is an imbecile and incompetent as her administration proved over the last 4 years.

 

[iguanaman]

She is lying to you. She’s telling you what you want to hear. This is no shift from her. It’s strictly what SHE thinks will benefit her at this moment. Same shit when she changes her dialect for the crowd she is speaking to.

And the Trump appeal that you ridicule as cultism is 100 percent born from policy, work ethic, and determination. If anything the man himself is a turn OFF. So once again you simply don’t have a ****ing clue as to what you are talking about.

Any so called Republican that would support Harris over Trump is/was never a Republican. They want their RINO party back perhaps. Harris has no values. Both liars. Both whores. Only one has an agenda that is the exact opposite of what a Republican stands for and that’s Harris. So please spare us this bullshit about republicans jumping the fence lol.

Sorry but anyone that is excited to deport millions and round up "the enemy from within" (democrats) and put them in camps is a fascist that does not belong on America. Don't worry though Harris won't deport you, she is far more moderate than I would be.

 

[iguanaman]

Do you live in a bubble? Are your groceries purchased by your servant? Are you able to see and understand what inflation was, what it rose to, and what it currently is? Have you bothered to look at what interest rates are today vs 4 years ago? Do you have amnesia as to what gas rose to for years and what it was under Trump?

Gas locally here is 3.13 a gallon. 1.13 higher than under Trump.

And have the courage to list my false claims. There is nothing I can think of that is cheaper today than under Trump. There is nothing that is better today than under Trump. Not the border, not the economy, not world hostility, nothing. Harris is an imbecile and incompetent as her administration proved over the last 4 years.

So you want to bring back covid and the shutdowns to lower gas prices? You do know that no one was driving and that cratered gas prices.

 

[NWRatCon]

So you want to bring back covid and the shutdowns to lower gas prices? You do know that no one was driving and that cratered gas prices.

Anything to make life more difficult for real people.

 

[SavannahMann]

Do you live in a bubble? Are your groceries purchased by your servant? Are you able to see and understand what inflation was, what it rose to, and what it currently is? Have you bothered to look at what interest rates are today vs 4 years ago? Do you have amnesia as to what gas rose to for years and what it was under Trump?

Gas locally here is 3.13 a gallon. 1.13 higher than under Trump.

And have the courage to list my false claims. There is nothing I can think of that is cheaper today than under Trump. There is nothing that is better today than under Trump. Not the border, not the economy, not world hostility, nothing. Harris is an imbecile and incompetent as her administration proved over the last 4 years.

Here is some advice my friend. When you tell a lie jot it down so you remember it. As an example. The message I replied to that you went back several pages to find, was two in the chain after you declared that gas had been two dollars, and you were no paying five. Apparently you forgot that you were claiming to pay five, and now declare you are paying three.

So are you giving Biden credit for lowering your gasoline prices by two dollars a gallon? Or are you telling us the truth, finally, about what gas costs in your area? Inquiring minds want to know.

I have some good news for you personally however. Kamala has announced that when she’s elected she will create a Subsidized Insurance Market for hard hit homeowners in Florida. She will socialize the insurance market, but it will cut your payments in half. Perhaps even more. But at a minimum you will save half your payment.

Trump replied that this was desperation buying votes. Then he claimed Kamala stole his idea. He was guaranteeing that homeowners would save more than half.

 

[Daddyo]

You guys don’t really spend any time with Critical Thinking do you? Manipulating the voting machine is dumb. It’s a stupid way to go about it.

I pointed out how impossible it would be to do it. I gave you logical reasons for it. All you do is keep running around screaming it is possible. Sure. A lot of things are possible. It is theoretically possible that we can travel faster than light. It is virtually impossible to actually do it, but it is theoretically possible.

As I pointed out before. To manipulate the votes you would have to figure out exactly what the vote would be. Otherwise you would come up short. And you need to do this six weeks prior to allow for early Voting in Georgia. You seriously think that anyone other than a master Psychic has an idea what the final vote totals would be six weeks out?

But let’s pretend. The voting machines are collected at the end of the day. And they’re useless. Because the votes are printed on a piece of paper which is stored in a big heavy duty trash can. That can is collected and transported with the voting machines to the county elections office. The total number of votes is compared to the total number of voters. These numbers need to match. If there is any question, they open up the bins, and start counting by hand.

Now, are you telling me that sixty thousand plus Trump voters cast their ballots, got their papers, looked at them and saw the name on the top of the paper, under the heading President, as Joe Biden, and didn’t raise hell? Are you claiming that the Trump voters can’t read English?

It’s a stupid claim, and it’s a stupid argument. Yes, like traveling at the speed of light, it is theoretically possible, but it is virtually impossible.

And making claims that you’re just like Gore, when up until Trump showed his Ass Gore was seen as the worst election loser in history. Then came Trump to take that crown and plop proudly on the throne as the worst loser in the history of the world.

The Georgia court proved that the machines could be manipulated to switch votes. Not sure why you find it so difficult to understand what this means. You talk about critical thinking lol please try it sometime. The Georgia court also exposed a master key which allowed all manner of changes to be made in the vote totals. There was no secure established security for this master key. So while it certainly hasn’t been proved that cheating happened in 2020, we now know that it was 100 percent possible crushing what dominion said and supporting Trumps assertion. Proving it days after the election while the company maintained possession and refused to allow experts to examine them is simply not possible. Much less trying to do this today.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/25/voting-machine-trouble-pennsylvania-00128554

They are subject to human error. In this case possibly human error on purpose as in someone wanting to make a mistake. Back up barcode didn’t match paper receipts. If that can happen then they can **** it all up.

 

[Daddyo]

Georgia did hand recounts, as did other jurisdictions.


Yes, let's. Cyber Ninjas.


At what point do you accept the fact that the machines are accurate? 1000 recounts? 1,000,000? Never?

A machine that has been proven possible to hack and has a master key that was not secured will never be trusted or accepted. Leftists have a history of cheating and seeking policies that make cheating easy. We know that the machines have ****ed up multiple times. We know that they are susceptible to human error. We know that the backup systems, paper receipts and a barcode receipt, can be manipulated because in one election the barcode backup was opposite of the voters actual vote.

Maybe if one day shady shit starts happening in heavy Republican precincts you will finally give a shit. You take a look at most states and you see massive red in the state. The majority of the state is Republican. Then you see a few specks of blue. Those few specks of blue are highly populated leftist shitholes generally. The numbers from those few specks often change that entire state to blue. One day when republicans are tired of getting cheated maybe they hack a machine in their red precinct. Maybe those fluffed numbers combined across all that red area of that state is enough to change the election. I bet then you would take it seriously.

 

[Daddyo]

He IS a conman.


Do they?


That is exactly the opposite of true. Among the many benefits he is pursuing is the ability to simply wave away federal criminal charges. Those threats to his freedom are significant UNLESS he can win that power again. He is increasingly desperate to do so.


Yes, he believes that he can lie and fight his way out of anything. As we recently learned, he told his children that the election results don’t matter, you just have to fight like hell and keep fighting no matter what. While it is admirable to ‘keep up the good fight’, at some point it becomes stupidity. When it is clear that you have lost a battle, the best thing you can do is admit it, gracefully, learn from it, and survive to fight another day. Donald does not know how to do that. Rational people understand that you have to admit loss and failure, and pick yourself up to fight again.

Donald is not rational.

TDS is strong in this one.

 

[Daddyo]

As usual you are projecting. Trump's failure with covid already destroyed our economy once and his mass deportations and 20% national sales tax will do it again. BTW "illegals" can't vote, don't vote and will never vote.

Wrong as usual.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/po...hadnt-been-confirmed-can-vote-the-full-ballot

Republican tried to block these unconfirmed citizen voters and failed. In the article it was already legal for someone with unconfirmed legal status to vote in Federal Elections in Arizona as long as the signed an affidavit claiming to be legal.

If you believe no illegals voted I have a bridge to sell you.

The shutdown destroyed the economy not trump. And if I recall it was leftist filth democrats seeking to keep things shut down not trump. Trump did an excellent job getting us through a novel virus. Made some critical life saving decisions as well. One in particular saved hundreds of thousands of American lives of not more. This decision, to restrict travel from China, was slammed as xenophobic by democrats meaning that they would not have done this and hundreds of thousands alive today would be dead.

 

[SavannahMann]

The Georgia court proved that the machines could be manipulated to switch votes. Not sure why you find it so difficult to understand what this means. You talk about critical thinking lol please try it sometime. The Georgia court also exposed a master key which allowed all manner of changes to be made in the vote totals. There was no secure established security for this master key. So while it certainly hasn’t been proved that cheating happened in 2020, we now know that it was 100 percent possible crushing what dominion said and supporting Trumps assertion. Proving it days after the election while the company maintained possession and refused to allow experts to examine them is simply not possible. Much less trying to do this today.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/25/voting-machine-trouble-pennsylvania-00128554

They are subject to human error. In this case possibly human error on purpose as in someone wanting to make a mistake. Back up barcode didn’t match paper receipts. If that can happen then they can **** it all up.

I covered this. Twice. And yet you keep running back to old replies to try and make a point of some sort. One that I already demolished.

For this one you went back six pages in this thread ignoring everything.

Fine. Tell me how it could work. The reply demolished your argument. But you tell me how they managed to know, more than a month before the election, how many votes to switch.

 

[Michael Cole]

A machine that has been proven possible to hack and has a master key that was not secured will never be trusted or accepted. Leftists have a history of cheating and seeking policies that make cheating easy. We know that the machines have ****ed up multiple times. We know that they are susceptible to human error. We know that the backup systems, paper receipts and a barcode receipt, can be manipulated because in one election the barcode backup was opposite of the voters actual vote.

Maybe if one day shady shit starts happening in heavy Republican precincts you will finally give a shit. You take a look at most states and you see massive red in the state. The majority of the state is Republican. Then you see a few specks of blue. Those few specks of blue are highly populated leftist shitholes generally. The numbers from those few specks often change that entire state to blue. One day when republicans are tired of getting cheated maybe they hack a machine in their red precinct. Maybe those fluffed numbers combined across all that red area of that state is enough to change the election. I bet then you would take it seriously.

Sure. Whatever you need to sleep at night.

Did you know the moon landing was faked? Yep. Fake news.

 

[iguanaman]

Wrong as usual.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/po...hadnt-been-confirmed-can-vote-the-full-ballot

Republican tried to block these unconfirmed citizen voters and failed. In the article it was already legal for someone with unconfirmed legal status to vote in Federal Elections in Arizona as long as the signed an affidavit claiming to be legal.

If you believe no illegals voted I have a bridge to sell you.

The shutdown destroyed the economy not trump. And if I recall it was leftist filth democrats seeking to keep things shut down not trump. Trump did an excellent job getting us through a novel virus. Made some critical life saving decisions as well. One in particular saved hundreds of thousands of American lives of not more. This decision, to restrict travel from China, was slammed as xenophobic by democrats meaning that they would not have done this and hundreds of thousands alive today would be dead.

So exactly how many who signed the affidavit were confirmed to be illegal and prosecuted? You need to have specifics.

 

[Daddyo]

No one would have pursued the charges had he not run.

Explaining this to any rabid Trump hating leftist would be like convincing a Palestinian that the holocaust happened.

 

[Daddyo]

Because it was about A Preventing him from running or B. Preventing him from winning. They're all liars by the way. You'd be street smart to consider that.

They had to manufacture a charge. They changed it because the statute of limitations had run out. They combined crap to convert things to a felony to overcome those limitations. They mixed state and federal law violations to get it done which is very likely unconstitutional. Bragg was desperate to charge Trump with something lol. It’s obvious. It will be tossed out very soon.

https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/4...me-court-stormy-daniels-manhattan-alvin-bragg

The one that really proves to all with a brain, that isn’t all eat up with TDS, is the document raid on Mar a Lago. Never mind that James and Bragg both vowed to get Trump. Never mind that both visited the whitehouse. Never mind that a high level Biden administration prosecutor Matthew colangelo left to join braggs team lol. All that is just coincidence lol. The massive raid on trumps home says it all. The FBI Washington office took charge overriding the Miami office’s jurisdiction to carry it out lol. Wonder why? They went in with a huge display of force when they knew Trump was not home and his secret service personnel guarding the home was warned. This huge display was all done to serve a subpoena and recover 30 boxes of paper lol. Something two men and a truck could have done in 10 minutes with a van. They sent in heavily armed agents and multiple vehicles all for the show. What was that show done for? To damage trump politically why else? There simply isn’t another logical reason. He wasn’t home. There was zero threat to agents as they had already talked to and warned secret service they were coming. Yet they sent in the Calvary as if raiding a drug lords home. It was a show to damage him publicly and politically.

This is why THEY are amongst the most dangerous threat to our democracy despite constantly blabbering about how Trump is a threat. They have turned our country into a banana republic.

 

[DrewPaul]

They had to manufacture a charge. They changed it because the statute of limitations had run out. They combined crap to convert things to a felony to overcome those limitations. They mixed state and federal law violations to get it done which is very likely unconstitutional. Bragg was desperate to charge Trump with something lol. It’s obvious. It will be tossed out very soon.

https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/4...me-court-stormy-daniels-manhattan-alvin-bragg

The one that really proves to all with a brain, that isn’t all eat up with TDS, is the document raid on Mar a Lago.

The other claim that doesn't pass the smell test is Biden saying he was unaware the raid on Mar a Lago was going to occur. You mean to say Biden was watching TV and his jaw dropped when he saw the raid taking place? Does anyone believe the AG kept his boss in the dark as he raided the former presidents residence? Despite doing and calling Trump irresponsible, Biden forgot his own secret hiding in the garage.

Its hard to fathom how some of most of the liberals believe Biden voluntarily dropped out of the race to do the right thing. He was forced out and still remains bitter.

 

[Daddyo]

Takes one to know one

They call us cultists and drones lol yet they are the cultists and drones. They call Trump a threat to democracy yet they are the ones supporting politicians that are actively censoring and trying to jail their political opponents.


I think you hit the nail on the head.

 

[DrewPaul]

No. Do you know anyone who has never done wrong? What would you think if some DA decided he was going to 'get you' because he believed you're an evil person.

I'd think he's doing his job the wrong way. Watergate started with a burglary which eventually led to toppling Nixon. With Russian collusion hoax the innuendo came first then a search for the crime.

 

[Daddyo]

No, it was about no one being above the law. About holding him accountable for crimes where there is evidence.

Yet Trump gets charges while Hillary and Biden get nothing. You can try to sell that garbage but those of us who have followed this ain’t buying.

And before you dust off that tired old line about Biden cooperating just remember that Hillary didn’t. She even wiped her server with a program called bleach bit and smashed subpoenaed cell phones to hide her crimes. Both had several felony crimes they committed all explained out by authorities only to have zero charges filed lol.

They had to manufacture the hush money charge.

Even the civil suit by E Jean Carroll was horseshit. The defense produced email chain evidence with her and her bestie explaining how they should “scheme” against Trump as part of their civic duty. The jury still held him liable even after that bombshell.

Since 2016 your comrades have turned to using the law against their political opponents. When it came out that Comey and the FBI knew that the dossier was fake and they still used it to get a warrant through a FISA court and still went through with the special counsel, I knew then that leftist filth democrats had crossed the line and become banana republic democrats. All the recent bullshit charges and the massive police display at his home to recover 30 boxes of paper just confirm what we already knew.

From secret weapons to get him as Peter Strzok said to Trump will never step foot in the whitehouse again as many high ranking Democrat politicians have said, it is obvious. From using the law to emboldening assassins it is obvious.

 

[Daddyo]

They are going after Trump because there is evidence that he committed crimes.

Yet they had to manufacture a charge.

Yet they went after Trump with the Russian collusion charge KNOWING that the only evidence was a fake bullshit dossier.

Yet they made a massive visual police operation at Mar A Lago to recover 30 boxes of paper while the man wasn’t even home. Two men and a truck could have done this in 15 minutes using one van. Fellow government agents (the secret service) had already agreed to grant access.

Only the most partisan and dishonest in this country have a problem admitting the obvious. They, the democrats, are actively trying to prevent Trump from stepping foot in the whitehouse. Whether that be putting him in jail or blowing his brains out, they meant it when they said he will never step foot in the whitehouse again. Pathetic banana republic pieces of shit.

 

[Daddyo]

The ideal is that no one is above the law.

They were going after him before he was running. He declared way early so he could say it was political.

Plus if it was you are ne with the evidence against Trump we would have been held without bail.

Do you think Trump should be above the law.

I think Trump should be as above the law as Biden and Hillary. How’s that for an answer? Since you keep tossing out that line it’s obvious you want a specific answer.

You won’t accept any evidence pointing to your comrades using the law against trump. I presented the fact that they had to literally manufacture the hush money charge. I even reminded you that all the DA’s and appropriate players had visited the whitehouse before the charges. I told you that a high level Biden prosecutor even quit and joined Braggs team. The most obvious however was the simple document case. Authorities actually explained in detail each and every Felony crime both Hillary and Biden had violated. Hillary even took multiple steps to destroy evidence of her crimes. Yet neither were charged with a single one. Trump OTOH was charged. As if that wasn’t bad enough these banana republic democrat idiots had to give an awesome visual performance for all of America to see. So they raided his home as if it was the compound of a major violent drug lord. If not for the show then why? Trumps wasn’t home. Trumps secret service had already said all was good. Yet they still sent in a massive heavily armed unit lol. Biden gets two agents, an unmarked van, and a get out of jail free card from prosecutors lol. Trump gets the Washington field office to take over for the Miami office, more than 30 agents, and charges lol.

It’s horribly obvious that you don’t know the facts or just don’t care. Try explaining away some of the obvious because just asking if Trump is above the law just isn’t working.

 

[Daddyo]

“Curious about this - it implies that you believe he did nothing wrong. Do you believe that?”

That’s not the question, and you know this. Do you believe Donald is totally innocent of all the things he is charged with? (He has already been found guilty of fraud in NY, so there’s a hint…)


Well, if I had done a series of crimes, I’d think maybe I should not have done them. Then again, I am not a criminal.

Everyone says they are not a criminal. Then you pull out a magnifying glass and you find that they are guilty of something. Maybe aunt Ruth gave you a pain killer when you hurt your back last week. Maybe you drove home after the game and 6 beers. Maybe you did something stupid as a youth but no one found out about it.

The bigger issue is that they allowed all your friends to get away with the same shit yet they charge you and parade you in front of the news cameras. Just as they allowed Biden and Hillary to get away with it while charging Trump and making a show of his case.

Explain to us what Trump is guilty of in the hush money case.

 

[Daddyo]

Or - here’s something that apparently has not occurred to you - but MAYBE he is being charged because it really really really looks like he committed serious crimes. Why is that not among your list of possible reasons he is being charged? Again, he is already a convicted felon.

The answer is - because you are in a cult.

OR here is something that apparently has not occurred to YOU…..maybe your inability to recognize that your former candidate was guilty of similar charges and was not charged while Trump was charged is indicative of you being a cultist.

Serious crimes lol. Trump paid a porn star to keep quiet. Not a crime. Trump labeled it as legal fees since they were paid thru his lawyer. Now here is how serious this crime was lol. Guilt or innocence rests on trumps intent. Was his intent to conceal this embarrassment from his wife and family OR was it to hide it from voters? Had Biden or Clinton done this you would be saying it was to hide it from spouse and family lol.

BTW Hillary paid to have a fake dossier produced to manipulate the election and also labeled it as a legal fee. She got a fine lol.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Yet Trump gets charges while Hillary and Biden get nothing. You can try to sell that garbage but those of us who have followed this ain’t buying.

If you actually followed it instead of believing Fox and other propaganda you would know how Trumps actions were totally different.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Yet they had to manufacture a charge.

Nothing fake about it. You've been lied to.

Yet they went after Trump with the Russian collusion charge KNOWING that the only evidence was a fake bullshit dossier.

Tons of evodence resulted in multiple convictions.

Yet they made a massive visual police operation at Mar A Lago to recover 30 boxes of paper while the man wasn’t even home.

why didn't he return them when subpeonad to do so?

 

[NWRatCon]

If you actually followed it instead of believing Fox and other propaganda you would know how Trumps actions were totally different.

That would require "accepting evidence", something rabid Trumpists avoid like the plague... oh wait. They don't believe in science, either, so that analogy doesn't work... see, Covid