When do females lose their right to bodily autonomy?

[mrjurrs]

We can argue about the Constitutional right to privacy or due process, but that misses the point of this poll's question. The reality is that American citizens or persons that are female have less rights over their bodies than male American citizens or persons. When do they lose that right?

I would say become pregnant.

 

[FreeStorm84]

Add the option "She never loses her right to bodily autonomy"

 

[Fearandloathing]

We can argue about the Constitutional right to privacy or due process, but that misses the point of this poll's question. The reality is that American citizens or persons that are female have less rights over their bodies than male American citizens or persons. When do they lose that right?

I don't do polls and in this case especially. "Lose their right" is obscene. Period. No one "loses" a right, it is stolen from them when they don't fight to keep it.

I am astonished at America' women and the bland on bland anemic response to Roe Wade being abolished.

All I can offer women in America is start burning down the barriers. If a majority of America's working women took one day off to protest nationally; those still saddled with "women's work", go on strike for a month. Men tend to become manageable when starving and have no clean clothes.

Stop dressing up, bathing, wearing make up, and do the opposite of what men ask.

Total war!

You will have autonomy with a month

 

[Josie]

Conception of the female human?
Viability of the female human?
Birth of the female human?

I don't think you thought out your poll answers very well, @mrjurrs.

 

[Doppelgangirl]

We can argue about the Constitutional right to privacy or due process, but that misses the point of this poll's question. The reality is that American citizens or persons that are female have less rights over their bodies than male American citizens or persons. When do they lose that right?

I would say become pregnant.

Never

 

[Josie]

Never

Then only males would be aborted.....

 

[FreeStorm84]

Men tend to become manageable when starving and have no clean clothes.

That presupposes men can't take care of themselves. They can .. but some are just too damned lazy.

 

[Schrott]

When men decide.

 

[Doppelgangirl]

Then only males would be aborted.....

Ok, I’ll bite. Why?

 

[Josie]

Stop dressing up, bathing, wearing make up, and do the opposite of what men ask.

Total war!

You will have autonomy with a month

You think women dress up, wear makeup and bathe only because men want them to? LOLOL!

 

[Josie]

Ok, I’ll bite. Why?

You said females should never lose their bodily autonomy. So female ZEFs should be off limits in abortions.

 

[Doppelgangirl]

Here is the definition of “autonomy” :

 

[Northern Light]

The answer is "never" because despite human laws, the only way they can truly stop a determined woman from aborting is to place her under 24/7 supervision. Natural law reigns supreme. Women will always control pregnancy and their own bodies. This isn't 1970. We have the internet now and there are how-to's everywhere online. It's not difficult to terminate a pregnancy and make it look like a miscarriage. So... elective abortion will still be around.

The ones who will suffer are the women with ectopic pregnancies and detached placentas who won't get medical care because their doctors religiously object or are too afraid of repercussions; or the women who were raped by their husbands or family members in incest and are under constant supervision by their abusers to make sure their devil spawn are born.

 

[Doppelgangirl]

You said females should never lose their bodily autonomy. So female ZEFs should be off limits in abortions.

Cmon, I’m referring to born people. You know that

 

[soylentgreen]

A test case to see whether a person who will die unless they get a new kidney or liver can now legally force a male closest donor to donate one of theirs. Just as a fetus has a legal right to force a woman to donate her body.

 

[Lursa]

We can argue about the Constitutional right to privacy or due process, but that misses the point of this poll's question. The reality is that American citizens or persons that are female have less rights over their bodies than male American citizens or persons. When do they lose that right?

I would say become pregnant.

Thus far, "federally" never without due process. (Women have never been drafted, have they? I dont think so.)

It's going to eventually come to that with the states attempting to criminalize having abortions. That's why most of them are criminalizing 'providing' abortions instead.

But in the more neanderthal states, there will eventually be cases challenged up to federal court. And they will see that their law is superseded by federal law/the Const. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later, because as with most things, it is the socio-economically challenged that will suffer the most.

 

[Doppelgangirl]

Thus far, "federally" never without due process. (Women have never been drafted, have they? I dont think so.)

It's going to eventually come to that with the states attempting to criminalize having abortions. That's why most of them are criminalizing 'providing' abortions instead.

But in the more neanderthal states, there will eventually be cases challenged up to federal court. And they will see that their law is superseded by federal law/the Const. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later, because as with most things, it is the socio-economically challenged that will suffer the most.

The people that need it the most will be the first ones left out. Not a single one of these politicians will ever deal with the fallout. They *always* will have the privilege of “choice.”

 

[reflechissez]

Cmon, I’m referring to born people. You know that

of course she does. But there were numerous irrelevant questions that just needed to be asked.

 

[Josie]

of course she does. But there were numerous irrelevant questions that just needed to be asked.

*sips*

 

[Doppelgangirl]

We can argue about the Constitutional right to privacy or due process, but that misses the point of this poll's question. The reality is that American citizens or persons that are female have less rights over their bodies than male American citizens or persons. When do they lose that right?

I would say become pregnant.

As the law stands, I would agree.
Okay might add a caveat to that. When they are “suspected” of pregnancy? Even “capable” of it?

 

[aociswundumho]

When do females lose their right to bodily autonomy?

Considering that the government controls which foods you may consume, which drugs you may inhale or inject into your own body, which risks you may take with your own body, can conscript your body into the army, and it even has laws preventing you from killing yourself, I'd say abortion laws are simply an extension of the state's never ending assault on bodily autonomy.

 

[Lursa]

You said females should never lose their bodily autonomy. So female ZEFs should be off limits in abortions.

I'd go for that compromise...only male unborn can be aborted. Arent people always begging for compromises on the abortion issue?

Since males are responsible for ~90% of all violent crime in the US, I think it would be worth seeing how it went.

Would you go for that compromise Josie?

 

[NewfieMom]

When do females lose their right to bodily autonomy?​

When the thought of one of them enters the mind of a man.

 

[LouC]

I voted AT CONCEPTION.

 

[Noodlegawd]

We can argue about the Constitutional right to privacy or due process, but that misses the point of this poll's question. The reality is that American citizens or persons that are female have less rights over their bodies than male American citizens or persons. When do they lose that right?

I would say become pregnant.

That depends on what state she's in.