When did the left stop being in favor of us reducing our global military presence?

[Tangmo]

That goes for us too. If Russia isn't stupid enough to invade right now they won't be stupid enough to invade after much or most of our occupation force leaves.

Also...

European Union Military Strength (2020)



The EU likely wouldn't even need our help. Russia has nothing to gain and everything to lose by starting a war with western Europe.

Russia is not going to start a war against western Europe.

Putin is much more likely to infiltrate and subvert to include small limited military engagements. Putin likes China's playbook he does.

Every time you say Russia is not going to start a war against western Europe you get gonged for saying what billions of people know already.

 

[Tangmo]

Tell me more about what I believe. You seem to know more about it than I do.

de Nile isn't only a river in Egypt.

I've been reading your posts individually and in their sum.

You are a PutinTrumpRower and at this thread you're being one of their all time hardest workers at being one.

 

[Tangmo]

I'm not defending or making excuses for either party. I just don't expect anything from the GOP. I'll never expect neocons to not be corrupt warmongers; that's what they are. I have always and will always give harsher criticism to the left because I expect more and have spent most of my adult life calling myself a left winger.

Your largess and self sacrifice is awesome thx.

 

[dex4974]

From your source, but of course you don’t believe Russia would ever interfere in a voting process

My sources also show interviews with locals. There were various surveys done on public opinion as well.

 

[dex4974]

\Every time you say Russia is not going to start a war against western Europe you get gonged for saying what billions of people know already.

You should help me have a discussion with the people in this and my other thread that literally think Putin is an invasion threat.

 

[dex4974]

de Nile isn't only a river in Egypt.

I've been reading your posts individually and in their sum.

You are a PutinTrumpRower and at this thread you're being one of their all time hardest workers at being one.

I don't know what a PutinTrumpRower is.

 

[dex4974]

Your largess and self sacrifice is awesome thx.

No problem. Somebody has to be the voice of reason.

 

[Citizen]

My sources also show interviews with locals. There were various surveys done on public opinion as well.

And Russia would never interfere with the voting process

 

[dex4974]

Our helping Saudi Arabia slaughter Yemen for corrupt reasons is excessive militarism. Our having a relationship of support with our ally Germany may or may not be a good use of money - an HONEST review of that trump is incapable of could examine that - but it's not killing people wrongly.

I think we should stop trying to be the police.

 

[dex4974]

And Russia would never interfere with the voting process

I saw what you said the first time. That's why I pointed out two other forms of evidence that support what I said. Anybody that's educated on the matter of Crimea knows that the public was very heavily in favor of joining Russia. It's just reality; accept it or don't.

 

[dex4974]

Our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are more of a waste of taxpayer monies and that spending should be cut first. We have a general welfare clause not a general warfare clause.

I'd be happy to see anything productive and meaningful get done. We don't have to have a queue for these issues. They all matter.

 

[Citizen]

I saw what you said the first time. That's why I pointed out two other forms of evidence that support what I said. Anybody that's educated on the matter of Crimea knows that the public was very heavily in favor of joining Russia. It's just reality; accept it or don't.

And I am sure you also have evidence that Russia never meddled in our election

 

[dex4974]

And I am sure you also have evidence that Russia never meddled in our election

Every nation that's capable of it does what they can to influence the affairs of other nations. It's the status quo. I won't say Putin didn't prefer Trump or that some Russian resources didn't go towards attacking his rivals. I think it's impossible to quantify the level of influence Russia had.

 

[Craig234]

I think we should stop trying to be the police.

I think we should resist a corrupt president and oppose his corrupt actions, having honest leaders set policy. If you want to stop trying to be the police, oppose trump's extreme militarization.

 

[Tangmo]

Well there's this.

2014 Crimean status referendum - Wikipedia


How People In Crimea View The Union With Russia : NPR

And this.

One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev



Oh, and this. The information is out there; you're just not looking.

Perhaps then Russian military forces could move into the Republican National Committee in Washington.

Be welcomed with laurels, wreaths, open arms and cheering. Bands playing.

Trump could attend of course. Maybe invite Putin himself to join in the big bash.

 

[dex4974]

Perhaps then Russian military forces could move into the Republican National Committee in Washington.

Be welcomed with laurels, wreaths, open arms and cheering. Bands playing.

Trump could attend of course. Maybe invite Putin himself to join in the big bash.

This seems like less of a rebuttal and more of a temper tantrum.

 

[Tangmo]

I'm sure some people that don't live in Crimea were unhappy about it. They'll get over it.

They're called Ukrainians.

Haven't gotten over it since, Russia in Crimea.

It's the first time the borders of a country of Europe were changed by force since World War II.

Putin did that twice over in Ukraine now.

 

[Tangmo]

So just to be clear, do you think what I said about the vast majority of Crimeans identifying as Russian and wanting to rejoin Russia is true or false?

Well then send in the Army.

And the Navy.

Air Force.

Oh that's right, that's what you Kremlin guys did do.

First time the borders of a country in Europe-Eurasia were changed by military force since World War II. It's after that you Kremlin guys held a referendum with no voter rolls and armed soldiers inside polling places.

Rule of law and all that.

 

[Tangmo]

You should help me have a discussion with the people in this and my other thread that literally think Putin is an invasion threat.

I'm trying to figure out whether you're simply soliciting or begging outright.

Because I've little doubt you're not doing any better there than you are here.

Alas I've decided.

 

[Tangmo]

I don't know what a PutinTrumpRower is.

Hasn't stopped you though has it.

 

[dex4974]

Well then send in the Army.

And the Navy.

Air Force.

Oh that's right, that's what you Kremlin guys did do.

First time the borders of a country in Europe-Eurasia were changed by military force since World War II. It's after that you Kremlin guys held a referendum with no voter rolls and armed soldiers inside polling places.

Rule of law and all that.

Matters involving DP are considered top priority so all of my reports go straight to Putin himself.

 

[dex4974]

I'm trying to figure out whether you're simply soliciting or begging outright.

Because I've little doubt you're not doing any better there than you are here.

Alas I've decided.

You said people don't believe that Russia would/could invade yet there are people saying that in this and other threads.

 

[danielpalos]

I'd be happy to see anything productive and meaningful get done. We don't have to have a queue for these issues. They all matter.

Tax cut economics is fiscally irresponsible without cuts in spending. We have a general welfare clause not any form of general warfare clause.

 

[dex4974]

Hasn't stopped you though has it.

So you won't tell me what it is?

 

[danielpalos]

...because the right wing only favors cuts in welfare spending not warfare spending.