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What's Most Important to You?

What's Most Important to You? (Pick Four)

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Pick four of these choices.

  • Happiness / Mental Well-Being: Personal contentment and emotional stability that contribute to overall life satisfaction and positive outlook.
  • Physical Health: The state of the body, maintained through diet, exercise, and disease prevention.
  • Friends/Companions: Social support network providing companionship and reducing loneliness, enhancing a sense of belonging.
  • Society/Community: Collective group influencing individuals through culture, laws, and mutual aid, shaping shared values and norms.
  • Money/Power: Resources offering security, influence, and opportunities to affect decisions and control one's environment.
  • Religion/Ideology: Belief systems guiding purpose, ethics, and understanding of the world, encompassing both organized religions and personal ideologies.
  • Compassion/Empathy: Emotional responses involving empathy (understanding others' feelings) leading to compassionate actions aimed at alleviating suffering.
  • Equality: Fair treatment ensuring equal rights and opportunities for all individuals, regardless of differences.
  • Freedom: Autonomy in thought and action without external restraint, encompassing both personal choice and political liberty.
  • Other: A category for any additional factors not listed that someone might find important.
 
The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time.

Creating a good circle of friends is essential.

We humans live in societies. We must consider how our actions affect others and our future.

We must have freedom to be happy and fulfill our goals.
 
The first three I chose (health, friends, empathy) result in the fourth - happiness.
 
Peacenik said:
The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time.

Creating a good circle of friends is essential.

We humans live in societies. We must consider how our actions affect others and our future.

We must have freedom to be happy and fulfill our goals.
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As someone once said."The journey is the destination." Difficult to conceptualize, yes and at times difficult to practice. I think you nailed it.
 
Stupid poll. How can you have a poll about personal importance and not have "Family". It's not an "Other"
 
God

each of us will live 60-70 maybe 80 years on this earth

in 20-30 years each of us will be pretty much forgotten by everyone - can you tell me the full names of your great grandfather? no ... when is the last time you thought about your grandfather?

everything important to me very likely isn't to anyone else, my deer mounts, my fishing lure collection, my favorite rifle

our souls and eternal afterlife ? that's important, and all the comes with the promises of Jesus Christ
 
Risky Thicket said:
As someone once said."The journey is the destination." Difficult to conceptualize, yes and at times difficult to practice. I think you nailed it.
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Thank you. I struggled to pick 4. I wanted to pick more, but after I thought about it for a while I was able to prioritize what is most important to me. Then I noticed the thread wasn't getting comments, so I simply gave my selections in the form of a short sentence explaining why they were my choices.
 
GIJane said:
Stupid poll. How can you have a poll about personal importance and not have "Family". It's not an "Other"
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Some people don't have any family. Having a family is nice but assuming everyone does is an assumption. There is more to life than simply adding more humans to the planet.

'OK. You've replaced yourself. Nothing left to do but wait for your death.'

Nope. Not buying that. All animals do that. Humans are greater. We invent things. We advance civilization. We build things. We discover things. We add to knowledge. We create art. We improve the human condition. We enjoy life for life itself where freedom allows. It's cool to simply be a human. A family can be a crutch, a constraint, an impediment. Kind of hard to go travel the world with a family, for instance. Or work certain jobs which require a lot of extended travel.

There is a divergence in young adults. They socialize together until some of them get married and/or begin having children. Then there is a split. The ones with small children form a subgroup, and the ones with no children, particularly the single ones, remain as a different group. The groups have decreasing overlap. The family oriented group socialize with one another and forget about the singles group. For them, it's all about taking care of small children. The singles group doesn't identify with that. Individuals in the singles group sometimes lament the 'loss' of good party friends to marriage and families. Once they go over to the 'dark side' they drop out of the single party scene. Good friends are 'lost.' The individuals in the family group believe they are fulfilling their destiny. They see the singles group as a temporary phase; and they themselves have 'moved beyond it.' The singles group are not always so sure they want to have children. Or they do but they are not ready yet.

Being childless allows adults to commit themselves to other endeavors with more intensity. The constraints of parenthood eat up lots of time. That's valuable time for young adults free to do anything they please in life. Bonds with other childless singles grow closer.

Family would have been a good choice to include in the poll, but it could be inferred in "Companions." Not including that as an option does not make it a "stupid poll.' Singles generally gather friends close and think of them as family. Others have family, but have nothing to do with them because of ideological differences. Companions is a more inclusive choice than Family. It is an interesting poll. You weren't alone in noting Family should have been included. People who have families tend to assume everyone else does too, or they 'don't count' as being part of our society. An inaccurate perception.
 
I'm surprised religion doesn't have more votes. It provides the overall frame with which to view life.
 
forn said:
I'm surprised religion doesn't have more votes. It provides the overall frame with which to view life.
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I'm not. More and more people are seeing the hypocrisy in many religions and are choosing to believe and worship in their own ways.
 
donhughesmusic said:
I'm not. More and more people are seeing the hypocrisy in many religions and are choosing to believe and worship in their own ways.
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But I would call that religion. Religion doesn't have to be organized. I think the word "religion" turns a lot of people off though. I know a lot of Christians who say Christianity is not a religion, for instance. I don't agree with that, but people think what they like.
 
If happiness is you ultimate goal, you will seldom attain it. Happiness comes through community, relationships, contentment, and purpose.

Similarly, if freedom is your ultimate goal, you will seldom achieve it. If you don't have your physical health and fitness, it is very hard to be free. If you don't have the self confidence that comes from knowing you can provide for yourself and those you care about, it is very hard to free. There are a lot of people that do a good job of investing for retirement, but do a poor job of investing in their body for old age not recognizing that being strong and fit well into your advanced age pays higher dividends than your 401k ever will (which means you need to do both).
 
forn said:
I'm surprised religion doesn't have more votes. It provides the overall frame with which to view life.
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I think it would have received more votes if the option was a Faith Community instead of Religion/Ideology.
 
This may be a bit philosophical but, without "Happiness / Mental Well-Being" then what difference does the rest of the list make?

I may even argue that some, if not all, of the rest of the list is what contributes to someone being mentally well and happy.
 
aociswundumho said:
It's a Marxist thing. Engels argued that the family is tied to private property which is considered evil by people like the OP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_the_Family,_Private_Property_and_the_State

Many communist countries separated children from their parents in order to try to break family bonds and promote loyalty to the party.
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Sometimes it is preferable to separate children from their politically unreliable parents, but never if a Marxist does so.

For example, Francisco Franco's regime separated politically unreliable parents from their children so the children could then be raised in politically reliable families, but Franco was hardly a Marxist.

In fact, Franco killed or imprisoned any Marxist he could find and took their children away, so Franco gets a pass.

Furthermore, Putin's Russia has been 'acquiring' children from the Ukraine, but whether Putin is saving the children or kidnapping them is reliant on whether you think Putin is a Marxist.

I am not sure, so I will await your pronouncement.

MAGA.
 
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1. Family ( didn’t see that option)
2. Friends
3. Physical health
 
Autonomy, friendship, conviviality.

There is much I would do to attain and preserve those estates.
 
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