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What WOULD be different if Gore had won?

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We would ill be spinelessly appeasing North Korea. Saddam would still be sponsoring Palestinian suicide bombers. Al Queda would still be fully intact and attacking us here at home.

Any other ideas as to what marvels a socialist Gore presidency would have bestowed upon us?

There is always the internet. :roll:
 

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aquapub said:
We would ill be spinelessly appeasing North Korea. Saddam would still be sponsoring Palestinian suicide bombers. Al Queda would still be fully intact and attacking us here at home.

Any other ideas as to what marvels a socialist Gore presidency would have bestowed upon us?

There is always the internet. :roll:
Well I don't know, good to see that you have a nice crystal ball that lets you know these things.:roll: I say that if Al Gore would have won, that he may have been more on top of things, 9/11 may have been completely thwarted like other plots were during the 90s, and we might be sitting here talking now about how the the last 5 years had largely been a continuance of the peace and prosperity that were the hallmark of the Clinton / Gore Administration. Of course, I could be wrong too. I will tell you one thing though, a person would have to put a hell of a lot of effort into being a miserable failure of a president to top the man we got in there now.
 

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I doubt 9/11 would have been thwarted. He would have gone to Afgahnistan like Bush but he would be less likely to enter Iraq without a UN coalition.
Economically not much would be different becuase he would have inherited the same recession that Bush did. The economy would have the same growth since 9/11.
Overall, Gore would probably not have gotten re-elected becuase he would seem weaker on foreign affairs and he would not have had time to implement domestic policy because of his version of the War on Terror. Bush got re-elected because he was a strong confident war president, and Gore would not have projected the same image to the people.
 

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9/11 wouldn't have happened.
 

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scottyz said:
9/11 wouldn't have happened.
Why wouldn't 9/11 have happened?

Would Gore have overhauled the entire National Security Bureaucracy (FBI, CIA, etc) to allow it to process the information and work together to prevent such an attack in the first months of his presidency?
 
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scottyz said:
Why would it have?
I edited mine while you were posting. It would have happened for the same reasons it did happen.
 

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Spartacus said:
I doubt 9/11 would have been thwarted. He would have gone to Afgahnistan like Bush but he would be less likely to enter Iraq without a UN coalition.
Economically not much would be different becuase he would have inherited the same recession that Bush did. The economy would have the same growth since 9/11.
Overall, Gore would probably not have gotten re-elected becuase he would seem weaker on foreign affairs and he would not have had time to implement domestic policy because of his version of the War on Terror. Bush got re-elected because he was a strong confident war president, and Gore would not have projected the same image to the people.
Gore got more votes than Bush did in 2000, he probably would have been reelected. Moreover, Gore on the economy would have been much like Clinton. He would have targeted stimulus towards consumption, put together an economic team that was very wallstreet friendly (like Clinton), and maintained fiscal discipline and minimal deficits, like Clinton, which would have encouraged foreign investment like during the 90s.
 

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SouthernDemocrat said:
Gore got more votes than Bush did in 2000, he probably would have been reelected.
Just because he won the first doesn't mean he would win the second. In 04 Bush ran and won as War President. What would Gore have run on? To me it seems he would have had an unproductive presidency, merely responding to 9/11 and the economy without doing anything to secure a base for reelection. Gore never had a forceful personality or much of an ability to connect with the people, either. He won the popular vote in 2000 through a combination of riding Clinton's coattails and going up against an unimpressive George W. Bush.

SouthernDemocrat said:
Moreover, Gore on the economy would have been much like Clinton. He would have targeted stimulus towards consumption, put together an economic team that was very wallstreet friendly (like Clinton), and maintained fiscal discipline and minimal deficits, like Clinton, which would have encouraged foreign investment like during the 90s.
Its not hard to be more fiscally responsible than Bush. lol (He spends money like a New Deal Democrat on speed) But I doubt that he would have been able to bring the economy back much faster than it has.
 

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aquapub said:
We would ill be spinelessly appeasing North Korea.
If you consider Clinton's actions to be "spinelessly appeasing North Korea," we're pretty much doing the same thing now. The treaty we just signed is very similar to the 1994 treaty. Are you saying that your president is a spineless appeaser?

aquapub said:
Saddam would still be sponsoring Palestinian suicide bombers.
And instead, we have a president who opened Iraq's floodgate to all the suicide bombers of the world and said "Bring it on." Yeah, that's much better. :roll:

aquapub said:
Al Queda would still be fully intact and attacking us here at home.
You think that after 9/11, a Gore administration would have just sat back and done absolutely nothing? Hardly. Gore almost certainly would've gone into Afghanistan and overthrown the Taliban government too. However, we wouldn't have gotten distracted from the fight with al-Qaeda by the idiocy that is the Iraq occupation.

aquapub said:
Any other ideas as to what marvels a socialist Gore presidency would have bestowed upon us?
Considering George W. Bush is the most socialist president in the history of this country, you have some nerve calling Gore a socialist while brown-nosing Bush.
 

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Everybody, I want you to calm down. I've consulted the tea leaves...and let me see...yes...if Gore won, all Americans would have the ability of flight.

No, I'm not joking. The tea leaves never lie. Some of us could also make ourselves invisible.






People! This was two elections ago! How could you possibly have ANY idea what someone who was not even elected would have done?!?
 

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scottyz said:
9/11 wouldn't have happened.

How could you possibly say this without any premises to support your conclusion. There is absolutely nothing that suggests it would not have! I agree with Kelzie that there is no way of knowing and why should you be reflecting upon this instead of FURTHERING your political agenda? I guess you guys like to focus onthe past and "what if" scenarios rather than getting stuff done! :D

I know kelzie wasnt meaning on how far i went, but i had to step it up a notch! :D
 

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AK_Conservative said:
How could you possibly say this without any premises to support your conclusion. There is absolutely nothing that suggests it would not have! I agree with Kelzie that there is no way of knowing and why should you be reflecting upon this instead of FURTHERING your political agenda? I guess you guys like to focus onthe past and "what if" scenarios rather than getting stuff done! :D

I know kelzie wasnt meaning on how far i went, but i had to step it up a notch! :D
Before I start out my rant, I would like to comment on the bolded portion above by saying that, Remember, It was a "Gore-Hater" that started this thread with the intent to do just what has happened.

This thread has already turned into a Partisan bitch-fest, starting with the first post of ignorant claims.
Nobody knows WHAT Gore would have been able to do.
Nobody knows if Gore could have been able to prevent 9/11 from happening, even though we had advanced warning of the plot of attack, I believe starting with a February 2001 memo, if im mistaken correct me (not in a child-like manner either).
The economy, or at least the general stock market, was declining due to a lack of intrest in these "dot.com" businesses that had lost thier appeal, well, thats my opinion anyways, of the stock market, not sure how much of an effect this had on the overall economy. As far as the comment by SouthernDemocrat, I tend to agree with that, because from what I have seen, Clinton actually appointed people to positions who knew more about that position. Example FEMA, Clinton had a man who knew how to handle disaster recovery, Bush's first pick was one of his campaign managers/aids/whatever, who later went to work for Halliburton.
As far as what Gore would have done had 9/11 happened? Who the **** knows? I hate how people are making general statements about that. You can make an assumption on what he would have done up until 9/11 on foreign issues, but post 9/11, its completely difficult to assume.
With that being said, I don't really think there is anything else you can really guess, even the economy part is shady due to "if" 9/11 would have still happened.

And I swear to god if I hear one "hippy-retard" liberal say New Orleans would still be standing if Gore was president, I'll bitch slap your ass through this monitor, as it was a NATURAL DISASTER!

I'm probably going to be attacked for this post as being partisan myself, because someone will take my comments as Pro-Gore and beat them up.
What do I have to say to this? I went with the things that made sense, everything else is questionable.
 

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Caine said:
Before I start out my rant, I would like to comment on the bolded portion above by saying that, Remember, It was a "Gore-Hater" that started this thread with the intent to do just what has happened.
What does that have to do with my post? Are you saying i play party politics?
 

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AK_Conservative said:
What does that have to do with my post? Are you saying i play party politics?
Yes, in a sense.
Based upon other posts I have seen you make, the BOLDED quote text of my previous post leads me to believe that your comments were not directed towards the person who started this thread, which is the real person to blame here if you are going to make statements like the one you made.

Ive rarely seen you agree with a Democrat on any issue, so, how could I come to the conclusion that you were actually referring to the guy who started the thread with all his baseless assumptions of how Gore would run the office?
 

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Caine said:
Yes, in a sense.
Based upon other posts I have seen you make, the BOLDED quote text of my previous post leads me to believe that your comments were not directed towards the person who started this thread, which is the real person to blame here if you are going to make statements like the one you made.

Ive rarely seen you agree with a Democrat on any issue, so, how could I come to the conclusion that you were actually referring to the guy who started the thread with all his baseless assumptions of how Gore would run the office?

Ahh so you think reflecting back to see what would of happened if gore won is a paralled argument in my ideology? I dont care if your democrat/conservative/green/blue/ or pink! If i dont agree with you, so be it. I dont play party politics like some of you! Secondly, reflecting back on gores loss has nothing to do with ideology! Plain and simple! Thirdly, Kelzie isnt a democrat, she is a socialist, which is further down the spectrum but it does disproves your point! :D

You underestimate me highly Caine!
 

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AK_Conservative said:
Ahh so you think reflecting back to see what would of happened if gore won is a paralled argument in my ideology? I dont care if your democrat/conservative/green/blue/ or pink! If i dont agree with you, so be it. I dont play party politics like some of you! Secondly, reflecting back on gores loss has nothing to do with ideology! Plain and simple! Thirdly, Kelzie isnt a democrat, she is a socialist, which is further down the spectrum but it does disproves your point! :D

You underestimate me highly Caine!

Did I hear my name? Are we talking about how great socialism is?
 

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AK_Conservative said:
HAHA far from it!
I'm tired of your lying lies, you liar. I know we're all closet socialists here. :lol:
 

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Kelzie said:
I'm tired of your lying lies, you liar. I know we're all closet socialists here. :lol:

Haha, i know you were joking in the above statement, but a lot of that seams to be going on here!
 

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SouthernDemocrat said:
Well I don't know, good to see that you have a nice crystal ball that lets you know these things.:roll:
And Gore when he was ranting two days ago in Stockholm about what his preisdency would have been, that crystal ball too?


I say that if Al Gore would have won, that he may have been more on top of things,
And what exactly does that mean?

9/11 may have been completely thwarted like other plots were during the 90s
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Most of the planning and logistics and staging took place during the Clinton administration so what is the basis of that statement?

and we might be sitting here talking now about how the the last 5 years had largely been a continuance of the peace and prosperity that were the hallmark of the Clinton / Gore Administration.
While still having regulat acts of war committed against us without a proper response from us. A few attacks of our ships, a few attacks on our embassy's what the heck.


How about not doing anything about the Taliban or OBL? They never did anything during thier 8 year term and he said two days he would NEVER invade a country that had not attack us so that means he would not have gone into Afghanistan. How about his taxing gas to $5.00 a gallon, what do you think that would have done to the economy? How about a massive tax increase during the middle of a recession, what would that have done? How about sign Kyoto and putting those cost on our economy?
 

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Spartacus said:
I doubt 9/11 would have been thwarted. He would have gone to Afgahnistan like Bush but he would be less likely to enter Iraq without a UN coalition.
Nope he said in his speech in Stockholm he would never have attacked a country that had not attacked us. Afghanistan never attacked us. The Taliban and OBL would still be operating out of there. And since I doubt that the UN would have joined us simply on the power of Gore's personality then you are saying he would never have entered Iraq at all.
 

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scottyz said:
Why would it have?
For the same reasons it did. It was planned and put in place during the Clinton administration not the Bush administration. You really need to get up to speed on things.
 
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