What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

[cpwill]

the best thing society can offer is an understanding parent or a well rounded sex education teacher.

ftfy.

 

[Rich2018]

I had sex education as a kid in public school. The material did not include graphic sex demonstrations and details like are being given to kids today. I did not have sex in high school and when I did get married and have sex I did not suffer from the ignorance so many modern secularists seem to think people like me would suffer from....

Do you think the many victims of child pregnancy and disease also had a limited sex education as yours.

If something exists that the child might encounter, he/she needs to know about it BEFORE such an encounter happens to the child.

....none of my 8 children had sex education in school and yet all of them have children of their own....people have been learning about sex for thousands of years without the benefit of pornography and other graphic sex instruction.

And children have been getting raped and pregnant for hundreds of years. Children have been getting communicable diseases for as long as there's been sex.

Big whoopee that your family has no had to suffer that experience

The USA leads the developed world in teen pregnancies and your response is "well it never happened to me so it can't be a problem"


Doubtless you oppose gun control because you've had a gun for 40 years and it's never been used to kill anyone.

 

[marke]

What's your age limit to meet that definition of "Little"

Clintonite democrat Joycelyn Elders advocated teaching little kids in elementary school how to masturbate. I am opposed to godless democrat sex education.

 

[Rich2018]

ftfy.

Yeah but understanding parents are few and far between when the child needs them it appears.

 

[Rich2018]

Clintonite democrat Joycelyn Elders advocated teaching little kids in elementary school how to masturbate. I am opposed to godless democrat sex education.

Once again, what's your age limit to meet that definition of "Little"


So you're opposed to sex education teachers who are "godless" . Does that extend to all teachers? Do they have to attend your church to qualify?

What about other walks of life...would you oppose your grand daughters getting pregnant by the godless or godly as well for want of a sex education.

What subjects do you think should be included in a sex education class?

 

[marke]

Do you think the many victims of child pregnancy and disease also had a limited sex education as yours.

The increase of ungodliness leads to an increase in victims of sin.

If something exists that the child might encounter, he/she needs to know about it BEFORE such an encounter happens to the child.

Teach kids that ignoring God leads to increases on sin and ungodliness and greater dangers to be encountered in life.

And children have been getting raped and pregnant for hundreds of years. Children have been getting communicable diseases for as long as there's been sex.

Further evidence of the need to teach kids that the ungodly are dangerous and must be cautiously dealt with in life.

Big whoopee that your family has no had to suffer that experience

My family has also suffered from sins committed by the ungodly.

The USA leads the developed world in teen pregnancies and your response is "well it never happened to me so it can't be a problem"

No, that is not my response.

Doubtless you oppose gun control because you've had a gun for 40 years and it's never been used to kill anyone.

I do not support destroying American traditions of gun ownership because leftists think removing guns from good people will make bad people less dangerous.

 

[marke]

Once again, what's your age limit to meet that definition of "Little"

For purposes of this debate let's say little refers to ages 6 to 12.

So you're opposed to sex education teachers who are "godless" . Does that extend to all teachers? Do they have to attend your church to qualify?

Teachers who teach kids that there is nothing wrong with sex before marriage are wrong and are doing great damage to the youth under their care.

What about other walks of life...would you oppose your grand daughters getting pregnant by the godless or godly as well for want of a sex education.

It is not lack of education which causes girls to get pregnant, but lack of adherence to Biblical standards opposing sex outside of marriage.

What subjects do you think should be included in a sex education class?

1. Boys have boy sex organs which make them boys and girls have unique physical characteristics which make them girls.

2. Sex before marriage is dangerous and has many unintended negative consequences which may affect kids for their whole lives.

3. Pornography is bad and should never be displayed in classrooms with children.

And much more.

 

[Rich2018]

The increase of ungodliness leads to an increase in victims of sin.

LOL

So the cure is more church - because people who go to church rely on belief and not knowledge.

Christian girls don't get pregnant (are you so sure?) and Christian teens don't get communicable diseases....

So you arguing that parents ensure their children attend church as part of the school cuuriculum?

(any church like a Mosque, Temple or Synagogue or just yours?)

...teach kids that ignoring God leads to increases on sin and ungodliness and greater dangers to be encountered in life....

Because the country's jails are full of Atheists? Except they're not, Atheists have been shown to be more thoughtful and socially responsible

...further evidence of the need to teach kids that the ungodly are dangerous and must be cautiously dealt with in life....

Oh I can't read any more of your narrow minded Christian preaching, doubtless you think a decline in church membership is responsible for an increased number of homosexuals, pornography, divorce, on marital sex, devil worship, Atheism and socialists.

 

[Rich2018]

For purposes of this debate let's say little refers to ages 6 to 12..

A girl can get pregnant at 12

...Teachers who teach kids that there is nothing wrong with sex before marriage...

There isn't

...It is not lack of education which causes girls to get pregnant, but lack of adherence to Biblical standards opposing sex outside of marriage...

No it's a lack of education

Teens are going to f**k not join a convent or monastery.

1. Boys have boy sex organs which make them boys and girls have unique physical characteristics which make them girls.

2. Sex before marriage is dangerous and has many unintended negative consequences which may affect kids for their whole lives.

3. Pornography is bad and should never be displayed in classrooms with children.

And much more.

And that they should pray and go to church

Barbara Bush, in reference to the war on drugs, said "just say no"... did that see a reduction of drug use?


The people are turning away from belief systems. Time to replace it with knowledge because the more we know, the less we believe.

 

[marke]

A girl can get pregnant at 12

Hence the school policies of taking pregnant 12 year old girls to abortion clinics to get rid of the evidence without notifying the girl's parents.

There isn't
No it's a lack of education
Teens are going to f**k not join a convent or monastery.

That's why I object to heavy-breather perverts teaching little kids the details of sexual pleasures. The perverts see no problem with teen sex, assume it will happen, and teach the little kids how to do it so they will be well prepared to put the instruction into practice when the opportunity and urge comes.

And that they should pray and go to church
Barbara Bush, in reference to the war on drugs, said "just say no"... did that see a reduction of drug use?

Leftist sex pervert: 'We cannot stop kids from having random sex so lets teach all of them how to do it and enjoy it regularly.'

The people are turning away from belief systems. Time to replace it with knowledge because the more we know, the less we believe.

The more kids learn of the pleasures of sin the less they believe that those pleasures can hurt and kill them if not properly checked.

 

[Rich2018]

Hence the school policies of taking pregnant 12 year old girls to abortion clinics to get rid of the evidence without notifying the girl's parents....

Many would, it's an open debate who the body belongs to.
Abortion is preferable to an unwanted pregnancy - I would draw the line for when a fetus' brain develops

...that's why I object to heavy-breather perverts teaching little kids the details of sexual pleasures. The perverts see no problem with teen sex, assume it will happen, and teach the little kids how to do it so they will be well prepared to put the instruction into practice when the opportunity and urge comes.

The evidence is that teen pregnancy does happen and on a massive scale....it's not perverted to recognize this and to try and do something about it.

...leftist sex pervert: 'We cannot stop kids from having random sex so lets teach all of them how to do it and enjoy it regularly.'

No, you can't ... and less of the personal insult.

...the more kids learn of the pleasures of sin the less they believe that those pleasures can hurt and kill them if not properly checked.

The more they know about sex and the dangers it presents to them, the less the will believe

 

[Lisa]

Teach kids that ignoring God leads to increases in sin and ungodliness and greater dangers to be encountered in life.

Sin is a Christian idea that is forbidden by the Constitution to be endorsed in public schools because of the separation of church and state. Keep your myths in church.

My family has also suffered from sins committed by the ungodly.

Please explain when and how this happened? Your god sounds like a jerk for punishing for the random actions of strangers.

 

[marke]

LOL
So the cure is more church - because people who go to church rely on belief and not knowledge.
Christian girls don't get pregnant (are you so sure?) and Christian teens don't get communicable diseases....

Teens get STDs from having sex, not from abstaining from sex. Christians teach kids that premarital sex is wrong and that kids should not have sex in ways which expose them to communicable diseases. The heathen teach their kids all about sex while assuming sex for them will be normal and healthy. That kind of sex is not safe, no matter what they may think to the contrary.

So you arguing that parents ensure their children attend church as part of the school cuuriculum?
(any church like a Mosque, Temple or Synagogue or just yours?)
Because the country's jails are full of Atheists? Except they're not, Atheists have been shown to be more thoughtful and socially responsible

Random sex and premarital sex is not safe sex, no matter whether religion is involved or not.

Oh I can't read any more of your narrow minded Christian preaching, doubtless you think a decline in church membership is responsible for an increased number of homosexuals, pornography, divorce, on marital sex, devil worship, Atheism and socialists.

 

[marke]

Sin is a Christian idea that is forbidden by the Constitution to be endorsed in public schools because of the separation of church and state. Keep your myths in church.

Disrespect for God and Christianity is a theological mindset which has no place in politics or the public.

Please explain when and how this happened? Your god sounds like a jerk for punishing for the random actions of strangers.

God will judge sinners like Hitler and anyone else who displeases Him by rejecting Jesus and serving the devil.

 

[Lisa]

Disrespect for God and Christianity is a theological mindset which has no place in politics or the public.

The US is not and never had been a Christian country so the government cannot be enforcing or endorsing Christian morality as secular law. We have two religious clauses in the First Amendment and they create a secular government with religious rights for all people to believe as they wish or not to believe. If the government is enforcing Christian morality then those of us who are not Christians have had our religious rights trampled on and that is unconstitutional. Your ideas are no different than the Taliban or ISIL. Not all Christians believe as you do, so the government support your conservative Christian ideas would trample on their equal Christian beliefs that you not agree with you.

God will judge sinners like Hitler and anyone else who displeases Him by rejecting Jesus and serving the devil.

There is nothing to suggest that your god exists because the bible was written and has been edited many times by man. The bible is no more proof of your god than Harry Potter is proof of Snidgets.

 

[marke]

The US is not and never had been a Christian country so the government cannot be enforcing or endorsing Christian morality as secular law. We have two religious clauses in the First Amendment and they create a secular government with religious rights for all people to believe as they wish or not to believe. If the government is enforcing Christian morality then those of us who are not Christians have had our religious rights trampled on and that is unconstitutional. Your ideas are no different than the Taliban or ISIL. Not all Christians believe as you do, so the government support your conservative Christian ideas would trample on their equal Christian beliefs that you not agree with you.

Secularists and atheists cannot claim they do not unconstitutionally discriminate against Christians by outlawing Christianity in the US.

There is nothing to suggest that your god exists because the bible was written and has been edited many times by man. The bible is no more proof of your god than Harry Potter is proof of Snidgets.

Humans debate the existence of God. Believing science proves God does not exist is not only wrong, it is stupid. Believing life on earth began by some unknown process without God is not only unscientific, but stupid as well.

 

[Lisa]

Secularists and atheists cannot claim they do not unconstitutionally discriminate against Christians by outlawing Christianity in the US.

Nobody is trying to outlaw Christianity. You have the very same religious rights/freedoms as everyone else does and that you have always had. What you cannot do is to legislate the others follow your beliefs by legislating them as secular civil law. I do not have to obey your Christian beliefs/dogma and I cannot be forced by the state to believe and worship as you do because of the religious clauses of the First Amendment. Your religious beliefs and your religious rights stop at the end of your nose where the equal religious rights of others to live and believe as they wish begin.

The government is to be kept absolutely neutral on the issue of religion for the protection of the secular and religious rights of everyone. This is what the concept of the separation of church and state means.

 

[Peter King]

Secularists and atheists cannot claim they do not unconstitutionally discriminate against Christians by outlawing Christianity in the US.

Almost nobody wants to ban or discriminate against christians or other religions. But we also as atheists do not want to be discriminated against by christians (and other religions) or have it rammed down our throats in our government run schools or buildings. Christians can be a christian they want as long as they do not do it in government buildings or if they do not violate anti-discrimination laws.

Humans debate the existence of God. Believing science proves God does not exist is not only wrong, it is stupid. Believing life on earth began by some unknown process without God is not only unscientific, but stupid as well.

I debate nothing about the existence of god. There are no gods. Believing in god is a religion and it is based on nothing but faith. There is zero evidence (objective/scientific) for gods or godly things. And no, believing that gods exist and that they had something to do with life on this planet is totally unscientific and illogical to boot.

Just like people misusing their faith by wanting young people to not be taught about preventing pregnancies and how pregnancies and diseases happen.

 

[marke]

Nobody is trying to outlaw Christianity. You have the very same religious rights/freedoms as everyone else does and that you have always had. What you cannot do is to legislate the others follow your beliefs by legislating them as secular civil law.

You are right. You have no right to legalize abortion and I have no right to criminalize abortion, but everyone has the right to continue to advocate for what they believe is right no matter which side they are on.

I do not have to obey your Christian beliefs/dogma and I cannot be forced by the state to believe and worship as you do because of the religious clauses of the First Amendment.

If hedonists have the right to disobey laws which violate their religious beliefs then why do they say Christians must obey laws which violate their religious beliefs?

Your religious beliefs and your religious rights stop at the end of your nose where the equal religious rights of others to live and believe as they wish begin.

Theological beliefs are not law but theological beliefs continue to influence legislation whether for or against God.

The government is to be kept absolutely neutral on the issue of religion for the protection of the secular and religious rights of everyone. This is what the concept of the separation of church and state means.

The government can hardly divest itself of influence from people with religious views, whether for or against God.

 

[marke]

Almost nobody wants to ban or discriminate against christians or other religions. But we also as atheists do not want to be discriminated against by christians (and other religions) or have it rammed down our throats in our government run schools or buildings. Christians can be a christian they want as long as they do not do it in government buildings or if they do not violate anti-discrimination laws.

Hedonist barbarians insist that public schools be purged of Christian influence, because hedonist barbarians want only their religious views promoted in public.

I debate nothing about the existence of god. There are no gods. Believing in god is a religion and it is based on nothing but faith. There is zero evidence (objective/scientific) for gods or godly things. And no, believing that gods exist and that they had something to do with life on this planet is totally unscientific and illogical to boot.

Hedonist atheists have their theological views about God and they demand that Americans ban all Christian influence in public and force nothing but hedonist views into laws and policies.

Just like people misusing their faith by wanting young people to not be taught about preventing pregnancies and how pregnancies and diseases happen.

Christians teach their kids that having premarital sex is dangerous and exposes humans to all sorts of troubles and STDs. Secular hedonist groupies reject such teaching for kids.

 

[marke]

Almost nobody wants to ban or discriminate against christians or other religions. But we also as atheists do not want to be discriminated against by christians (and other religions) or have it rammed down our throats in our government run schools or buildings. Christians can be a christian they want as long as they do not do it in government buildings or if they do not violate anti-discrimination laws.

Hedonist savages think discrimination against Christians and Christianity is acceptable discrimination whereas Christian devotion to Biblical opposition against sodomy and other sins makes Christians guilty of violating secular laws against discrimination.

I debate nothing about the existence of god. There are no gods. Believing in god is a religion and it is based on nothing but faith. There is zero evidence (objective/scientific) for gods or godly things. And no, believing that gods exist and that they had something to do with life on this planet is totally unscientific and illogical to boot.

Believing no God exists is faith based, not scientifically backed. Hedonist atheists want to ban Christianity while endorsing the irreligious precepts of Satanism.

Science has no clue how life began on earth but that does not stop hedonists from openly and adamantly declaring God had nothing to do with it. That is not science, it is religious Satanism.

Just like people misusing their faith by wanting young people to not be taught about preventing pregnancies and how pregnancies and diseases happen.

Kids, don't listen to foolish teachers who tell you that random premarital sex is harmless, safe and normal.

 

[Peter King]

Hedonist barbarians insist that public schools be purged of Christian influence, because hedonist barbarians want only their religious views promoted in public.

ridiculous christian zealots are under the fake illusion that all people are waiting for their destructive influence. Because religious christian zealots only want their religion rammed down people's throats.

Hedonist atheists have their theological views about God and they demand that Americans ban all Christian influence in public and force nothing but hedonist views into laws and policies.

christian zealots claim their religious views should be the only thing taught in the US and the world and they demand that all atheists and other religions bow down to them and follow their lead in turning public schools into religious institutions where only their limited view on everything will be taught. The same goes for the rest of government, the laws of the US and the policies of the US. Demanding people swear in on a religious book and demand that all politicians be part of their religion to be allowed into a government position.

Christians teach their kids that having premarital sex is dangerous and exposes humans to all sorts of troubles and STDs. Secular hedonist groupies reject such teaching for kids.

Christians teach their children nothing of value when it comes to preventing unwanted sex, they have the foolish view that their children will actually do what they order them. Realistic adults in the room teach children to prevent getting pregnant rather than only talking about abstaining because that has been such a great success in the US and all other christian regions where it is taught :lamo

 

[Peter King]

Hedonist savages think discrimination against Christians and Christianity is acceptable discrimination whereas Christian devotion to Biblical opposition against sodomy and other sins makes Christians guilty of violating secular laws against discrimination.

Except you have no right to discriminate against the law. Also, atheists do not discriminate against christians, that is more your religions way how to do things. You have been doing it for many centuries.

Believing no God exists is faith based, not scientifically backed. Hedonist atheists want to ban Christianity while endorsing the irreligious precepts of Satanism.

Science has no clue how life began on earth but that does not stop hedonists from openly and adamantly declaring God had nothing to do with it. That is not science, it is religious Satanism.

Yes, believe in something that does not exist is not based on science, that is what I said. Atheists want to ban christianity :lamo You really are totally not living in reality are you. And satanism what a total and utter steaming pile of :bs . You do know that as atheists we don't believe in god or satan, or are you really so out of touch with facts that you do not realize that an atheist cannot believe or support satanism because we also do not believe in the devil. As believing in the devil we would also acknowledge the existence of god. And as an atheist we know there are no gods.

Really you make no sense with any of these comments.

Kids, don't listen to foolish teachers who tell you that random premarital sex is harmless, safe and normal.

Kids listen to teachers when it comes to being told about the birds and the bees, it is the parents duty to tell them about not having sex before they are ready or in your kind of people before marriage.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Secularists and atheists cannot claim they do not unconstitutionally discriminate against Christians by outlawing Christianity in the US.



Humans debate the existence of God. Believing science proves God does not exist is not only wrong, it is stupid. Believing life on earth began by some unknown process without God is not only unscientific, but stupid as well.

It's odd that you're trying to argue an ex post facto position.

Christianity has been legally outlawed in our country since 1366.

Literally everyone where is a Venusian.

 

[Joel]

Christian devotion to Biblical opposition against sodomy and other sins makes Christians guilty of violating secular laws against discrimination.

"I love you with the love of the Lord, but I can't associate with you, or do business with you because of Biblical opposition against sodomy"

Do you think that is pleasing to God?

Jesus said the greatest commandment was to love God and the second was to love your neighbor as yourself.

How can any follower of Christ then want the legal right to discriminate against gay people?

You can't show love to people while you are rejecting them.