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so Rev
you really do not know the difference between using capital letters on a title like Tea Party and not using capital letters on a term like tea party?
no, it is not a lie, in essence, that is what the tea party is..sorry, it is what it is....no sour grapes on my part, i hope both sides can get together and accoplish some things for the betterment of the country.this is a lie. This has nothing to do with what the tea party is about. It's simply more sour grapes from the loser side of the election.
no, it is not a lie, in essence, that is what the tea party is..sorry, it is what it is....no sour grapes on my part, i hope both sides can get together and accoplish some things for the betterment of the country.
no sir, it is not, the tea party is an attempt to be 'republican light'....what are 99% of the tea party members rev? REPUBLICANS....they are attempting to lose the baggage of the party ....they are a wing of the republican party ....they are a tool of the main party. the next two years will be interesting, does the republican party leadership try and bring them into the fold, or do they distance themselves from the tea party?It is an absolute lie, and your smear campaign makes you look like a partisan hack. :shrug:
no sir, it is not, the tea party is an attempt to be 'republican light'....
what are 99% of the tea party members rev? REPUBLICANS....
they are attempting to lose the baggage of the party ....they are a wing of the republican party ....they are a tool of the main party. the next two years will be interesting, does the republican party leadership try and bring them into the fold, or do they distance themselves from the tea party?
truth hurt rev? who is the 'tea party' associated with? who have the candidates of said 'tea party' associated themselves with? sorry, but indeed they are a branch of the republican party..Lie. The tea party is a grassroots movement that wants lower taxes, smaller government, more accountable reps.
Lie #2, link to study showing that "99%" of those claiming tea party membership are republicans.
SO you form your opinion based on your lies. Nice.
truth hurt rev?
who is the 'tea party' associated with?
who have the candidates of said 'tea party' associated themselves with?
sorry, but indeed they are a branch of the republican party..
since I'm not American, but from Europe, I would like to ask you to explain to me what the Tea Party actually is.
believe what you like rev, i havent lied, and i have called it like i see it...the tea party can call itself 'grassroots' if it wants to, but it is mainly aligned with the republican party, and hence, are a tool of said party. it will be interesting to see how long before they are 'back in the fold' of the main party, since things went well for repubs last night...Perhaps it hurts you, which is why you lie and slander us.
No one, it is a grass roots movement.
There are no tea party candidates. there are folks who embrace the TEA part of the TEA party, such as rand paul and marco rubio. But the TEA party has been the death of many a would be republican candidacy as well. If you bothered to educate yourself than post in a world of willful ignorance on your part, you wouldn't perhaps come off as a smearing partisan. :shrug:
This is a lie. Perhaps you should research the tea party before you post off all half cocked and ignorant.
believe what you like rev, i havent lied,
and i have called it like i see it...the tea party can call itself 'grassroots' if it wants to, but it is mainly aligned with the republican party,
and hence, are a tool of said party.
it will be interesting to see how long before they are 'back in the fold' of the main party, since things went well for repubs last night...
But most candidates also had a lot of personal baggage. I'm in the tea party, and even I was disappointed.she's hardly a knig maker......
Sarah Palin's endorsements: Less than half of the Tea Party favorite's picks win on Election Day
This poll has some info.
Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics
As you can see, they're mostly conservatives, but there are also some moderates and a few liberals. Most of them AREN'T Republicans. There are PLENTY of Independents and some Democrats as well.
Their main focus is economic issues, particularly the enormous spending increases of the last couple years. The US hasn't seen anything on this scale since WW II. Even people on the left are complaining. Most people in the US disapprove of Obama's handling of the economy. As you can see in the poll, 28% of the US supports the movement, so it isn't a tiny group on the fringe and it isn't very conservative. Their opponents depict them as extremists, but the movement is against extreme economic policies. They're definitely right of center, but they're more centrist than extreme. Considering how unpopular Obama's economic policies are, I suspect that their support would be much higher than 28% if their opponents weren't flooding the media with negative images of them and depicting them as extreme.
Most of the people in the movement are also social conservatives and some want to broaden the movement, but they're focusing on economic issues in order to attract liberals, moderates, libertarians, Independents and Democrats. Many of those people would be turned away if they started focusing on social issues.
so Rev
you really do not know the difference between using capital letters on a title like Tea Party and not using capital letters on a term like tea party?
I know when one does not have an intellectual argument one will tend to focus on idiotic punctuation and spelling mistakes.
There is no Tea Party. As such they cannot win any elections. This is just simple fact and application of standard terms as they are used in the English language.
Nice try, most of them aren't Republicans.the tea party, in essence, members of the Republican party trying to 're-brand' themselves, attempting to drop the 'baggage' associated with the republican party.
Calm down, he didn't ask about me.Ok, you're saying what you want to do. Now, instead of telling me generalities, be specific. Tell me what you want to cut and how much. That's the real challenge because there are consequences with those decisions and you have to be able to justify them. Stop ranting and start acting like you want to govern.
Uhhh, what?The US has the highest per capita defence spending in the World
That's fine, but others amongst you seem to disagree (see American in post 16 above). Who is right? And what will your newly elected representatives argue in Congress?1. I'm for cuts across the board.
Now, you see, that's a circular argument. You vote for TP candidates in order to achieve greater accountability. What accountability? Why, to vote for TP candidates of course. Anyone see a bit of a logic failure here?2. By our voting power as seen in this historic election.
Uhhh, what?
I've checked this in the past at nationmaster.com and the US was always behind several countries and way behind a few. I checked there just now and the US was completely removed from the list. I got conflicting data when I googled it.You disagree?
I've checked this in the past at nationmaster.com and the US was always behind several countries and way behind a few. I checked there just now and the US was completely removed from the list. I got conflicting data when I googled it.
Good evening,
since I'm not American, but from Europe, I would like to ask you to explain to me what the Tea Party actually is. I believe I do not really understand it, and considering the trend in journalism to look for sensations and shrill voices and events, it's a bit hard to know if it does that movement justice.
I've seen reports about obvious radicals at Tea Party events, like people who made shrill polemic comments, like comparing Obama to Hitler, or suggesting he is a Muslim out to destroy the country. Some broad-brushed things Obama did as "socialism", without really defining what they think that is, and why that's always a bad thing. I've also seen reports when people used many labels, from "constitutionalism" over "libertarianism" to "conservatism", but these terms were not defined, so I was not sure I really understand what they mean. I saw when Sarah Palin made rather heated remarks, like "don't retreat, instead reload!", comparing their fight to military action.
I admit that for me, as a European, what I've seen of the Tea Party so far didn't strike me as very likeable, some things I found even ugly. But probably that's mostly just because this movement is alien to me, and I have only seen few sensationalist reports. Also, campaigns are traditionally shriller and more polemic in the US than in Germany, so maybe I have a mild culture shock too. We guys are sometimes too cramped when it comes to politics. So I am honestly interested in your ideas, sentiments and reports.
I assume in case of any relatively spontanous political movement or ralley from any side of the political spectrum, you find these rather shrill elements. But most of the time, they are not representative, and don't really tell you much about the real intentions and complains of that movement. For example, you found quite a few shrill voices and polemics in the anti-Bush and anti-war ralleys, like the Bush-Hitler comparison or the Bush-chimp theme, but that doesn't say much about the general character and concerns of this movement.
So what is the Tea Party? Has it somethin in common with right-wing extremists in Europe? Or is it a good thing, something to bring back enthusiasm to politics, changing it for the better? Do I need to be afraid of the Tea Party, or welcome it?
Probably that is not different in case of the Tea Party. Since I assume there are people here who sympathize with the Tea Party, some maybe even actively involved, I would like to ask you: Can you explain to me, a foreigner, what you believe the Tea Party really, essentially stands for, what you like about it, what you maybe dislike about it? Of course those who disagree with the Tea Party are invited to post their impressions as well. Neutral impressions are just as welcome as polemics.
Looking forward to your replies!
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