TaskmasterX
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And some would say that homosexuality is not normal and that makes it wrong, or homosexuality is normal and that doesn't make it right.It is normal. It doesn't make it right.
Umm. Kids do say that stuff in school, in public, etc. Kids nowadays have some filthy mouths. I would argue that it is turning the other way around. Nowadays, kids are saying more racial comments rather than homosexual ones.People are free to say and believe what they want. However, we wouldn't allow a child to walk through the halls saying things like, "That is so black" or "You are such a Ni**er!" but those kinds of comments are fine when they are, "That is so gay" and "You are such a Faggot." Bullying will never be completely solved because it is part of human nature, but it can be monitored and reduced.
No. I answered for myself and said that that doesn't mean someone else can't make a choice. It is you who are insistent on speaking for others in saying that none of them can make a choice and that it is all genetic, when it isn't. It's combination of environment and genes. Temperamental and personality traits interact with the familial and social milieu as the individual's sexuality emerges.Your point is that you believe you know how other people think and what they are and are not capable of choosing. Nobody possesses that abiilty.
Allow me to repeat another key point you ignored:Exactly. And unmarried heterosexuals demonstrate marked increases in STDs, substance abuse, etc. and lowered life expectancy. So why would you expect unmarried homosexuals to be any different?
I see you are now more supportive of my statement that homosexual behavior is more stressful. Even if somehow magically, no one discriminates against gays, they still have to worry about their high risk of contracting AIDS.You are also ignoring the fact that gays are discouraged from having relationships because it outs them. If I have a relationship with someone, then it is pretty evident to everyone that I am gay, and then I have to worry about things like housing and job discrimination. Do heterosexual people have to worry about that?
And some would say that homosexuality is not normal and that makes it wrong, or homosexuality is normal and that doesn't make it right.
Umm. Kids do say that stuff in school, in public, etc. Kids nowadays have some filthy mouths. I would argue that it is turning the other way around. Nowadays, kids are saying more racial comments rather than homosexual ones.
It is you who are insistent on speaking for others in saying that none of them can make a choice and that it is all genetic, when it isn't.
It's combination of environment and genes. Temperamental and personality traits interact with the familial and social milieu as the individual's sexuality emerges.
Allow me to repeat another key point you ignored:
Homosexual relationships typically last an average of one and one-half years, according to a study published in the journal AIDS. The findings, which were highlighted in an article in The Washington Times, were based on research by Dr. Maria Xiridou of the Amsterdam Municipal Health Services, who studied Dutch homosexual men and the transmission of HIV in the Netherlands, a gay-tolerant nation that has legalized homosexual marriage.
The study also found that homosexual men in "long-term" relationships have an average of eight sexual partners each year in addition to their relationship.
These findings are similar to earlier research that shows that most homosexuals are not monogamous. For example, a 1997 survey found that 91 percent of homosexual men reported having an average of 43 male sexual partners in their lifetime. The Washington Times article compared these findings to heterosexual relationships, where 67 percent of first marriages last at least 10 years and 50 percent last 20 years, while 75 percent of married couples say they have been faithful to their spouses.
I see you are now more supportive of my statement that homosexual behavior is more stressful. Even if somehow magically, no one discriminates against gays, they still have to worry about their high risk of contracting AIDS.
You did equate the two in your comment about bullying being normal but not right.And that would be dumb. Just becasue something is not normal does not make it right or wrong. Normalcy has nothing to do with morality and I don't try to equate the two.
LOL. You have never been in a public place with a bunch of teenagers?I would love to see the evidence you have to support that notion.
Exactly. I said the same thing. I don't know why we are arguing about this then. Maybe because you still aren't reading what I type?When did I make this argument? I have never argued in this thread that homosexuality is "all genetic" or that some people don't possess the ability to choose to what sex the are attracted. I simply argued that people who can't choose, do exist. You happen to be one.
You did equate the two in your comment about bullying being normal but not right.
LOL. You have never been in a public place with a bunch of teenagers?
Exactly. I said the same thing. I don't know why we are arguing about this then. Maybe because you still aren't reading what I type?
LOL. When you say something isn't right, then you are saying it is wrong. So you are saying that bullying is wrong and are using your morality by doing so.I said just because it is normal, does not make it right. I never equated morality and normalcy, you did.
I never said that is was racial minorities that were doing this. I said it was kids and teenagers. Now you are making assumptions about my position and are reverting back to your inability to thoroughly read posts before replying. I'm done.I only ask, because if that is the case, then we probably should not allow racial minorities to adopt children. We wouldn't want kids to be bullied because their parents have a different skin color.
No, you are making assumptions about my position.
TaskmasterX said:Allow me to repeat another key point you ignored:
Homosexual relationships typically last an average of one and one-half years, according to a study published in the journal AIDS. The findings, which were highlighted in an article in The Washington Times, were based on research by Dr. Maria Xiridou of the Amsterdam Municipal Health Services, who studied Dutch homosexual men and the transmission of HIV in the Netherlands, a gay-tolerant nation that has legalized homosexual marriage.
The study also found that homosexual men in "long-term" relationships have an average of eight sexual partners each year in addition to their relationship.
These findings are similar to earlier research that shows that most homosexuals are not monogamous. For example, a 1997 survey found that 91 percent of homosexual men reported having an average of 43 male sexual partners in their lifetime. The Washington Times article compared these findings to heterosexual relationships, where 67 percent of first marriages last at least 10 years and 50 percent last 20 years, while 75 percent of married couples say they have been faithful to their spouses.
So you are saying that bullying is wrong and are using your morality by doing so.
I never said that is was racial minorities that were doing this. I said it was kids and teenagers. Now you are making assumptions about my position and are reverting back to your inability to thoroughly read posts before replying. I'm done.
I take the lack of any response to this question from either of you supports my argument that the homosexual lifestyle is more stressful than a heterosexual one.
If the mother knows she has AIDS, she can use formula. The key is to know that you have it and then take the necessary precautions. Also, when you account for the fact that a certain percentage of heterosexual sex, shared needle use, and contaminated breast milk, originated from homosexual behavior (i.e, bisexuals with AIDS, homosexuals with AIDS sharing needles), then the 61% of AIDS cases caused by homosexual behavior is actually higher (at least two-thirds to three-quarters). I can never support an argument that basically says "Sure, everyone has problems or stress, so it couldn't hurt to add a little more".
I disagree. While I agree that the number of bullying instances are more for heterosexuals than homosexuals, this is because homosexuals make up a vast majority of the population. If you want to talk about percentages or frequency, then I would argue that it is homosexuals that experience it more frequently compared to heterosexuals. A higher percentage of homosexuals experience bullying more often than heterosexuals.
You ignored the rest of my post. Go back, read it, and respond in full or get the hell out of my thread. I'm not going to respond to people who take my posts out of context.
Hint: The nuclear family is structurally inferior to extended and/or tribal families.
Hint: I didn't argue structure is not important, only that the social conservative structural definition (nuclear family) is stupid.
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