What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

[chromium]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

says who you?

good guess!

 

[chromium]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

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How many children were born naturally from queers?

Not enough to overpopulate the planet and breed our own species to extinction, fortunately

How many abortions, condoms, sterilizations were needed to prevent heteros from accomplishing this?

 

[votemout]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Not enough to overpopulate the planet and breed our own species to extinction, fortunately

How many abortions, condoms, sterilizations were needed to prevent heteros from accomplishing this?

Answer my question or STFU!

 

[votemout]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Not enough to overpopulate the planet and breed our own species to extinction, fortunately

How many abortions, condoms, sterilizations were needed to prevent heteros from accomplishing this?

Hell point to one! we heteros can procreate ah I see why you hate now your jealous of men and women natural ability to create life!
That god given ability:2wave:

 

[votemout]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Not enough to overpopulate the planet and breed our own species to extinction, fortunately

How many abortions, condoms, sterilizations were needed to prevent heteros from accomplishing this?

Breeding leads to more people unlike your sick homosexual acts that cant create anything!

 

[chromium]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Answer my question or STFU!

Too many to possibly count, since even "queers" can reproduce

My gay uncle alone has 3 kids, yes from a woman

 

[votemout]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Too many to possibly count, since even "queers" can reproduce

My gay uncle alone has 3 kids, yes from a woman

Oh I must clarify have any evidence homosexuals can create life, with other homosexuals?
:2wave:

 

[chromium]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Oh I must clarify have any evidence homosexuals can create life, with other homosexuals?
:2wave:

Is there some reason i should care?

 

[Paschendale]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Noted you missed the anti white racism! funny how people miss that one!!!!

Please tell me all the times a cop thought you were more likely to be committing a crime for being white, or when you were assumed to be less educated for being white, or when you were assumed to be a thug for being white, or when you were five times more likely to be born into poverty for being white. Those all happened to you, right?

A comedian at the Apollo making fun of how you dance isn't racism. Society being stacked against you is racism.

That is the fault of gay people?

It's actually more the fault of women now being able to divorce their loser husbands and support themselves without a man in their lives. Sounds like a pretty good fault to me.

Married and monogamous gays are something of a minority anyway.

Please provide evidence for this claim.

Among many youth subcultures even today, it already is considered to be rather "trendy" for men and women alike to experiment in bisexuality simply because they can. I don't see this becoming any less common as the push for LGBT "acceptance" continues to be forced to the cultural forefront.

Even if this were true, why exactly is it a bad thing? If people want to experiment, they can experiment.

It's entirely possible that we might wind up with something like what existed in ancient Greece or Rome in the long run if this kind of thing continues.

Slavery? They had lots of slavery. And were dumb enough to think that their gods were real. And expanded militarily, raping, torturing, and pillaging others. And commonplace adult/child relationships. And women as property of men. So yeah, permissible homosexuality clearly makes our society a lot like theirs.

If you consider an anomalous condition which exists in only 2% to 5% of any given population to be "normal."

It's far more common than dwarfism. Are you going to start discriminating against Peter Dinklage now?

It's not as common as heterosexuality. If anything, it is currently being over-represented.

I'm sorry your delicate feelings don't allow for exposure to things that aren't just like you. Would it make the world scary for you if there were more black people on TV than white people? What if there were *gasp* Muslims?

Go live in one of those cultures then.

Too bad. I live in this one. And the vast majority of public opinion and the constitution are on my side. But even if that wasn't true, tradition is not nor has ever been a good reason to do anything. Haven't you seen Fiddler on the Roof?

That is a matter of opinion.

Your eyelashes are your business, but you're the one who chooses to bat over other people's personal lives.

No, I simply recognize blatant coercion and attempts at the silencing of free speech as exactly what they are. It's almost gotten to the point where opinions opposed to the LGBT movement aren't even tolerated any more.

Just like racists and misogynists aren't tolerated.

If the union is legitimately "equal," then, by definition, no lack of equality can be said to exist.

Just like the back of the bus, right?

For that matter, absolute equality isn't always merited in the first place.

You're right, whatever you do should clearly be reduced to second class citizenship because you're okay with that happening to anyone. You clearly want people to be lesser, so it's great of you to volunteer! Luckily for you, the people you're fighting are far kinder and more upright than you are.

If you want to have foreign objects forcibly jammed into orifices where they do not belong (in spite of the pain and numerous risks involved), that is no business of mine. However, spare me the "moral superiority" hogwash. Anal sex is self-serving perversion. Nothing more, and nothing less.

See? Weird fear of anal sex. Ever go to any effort to prevent women from having anal sex? Of course not, they're supposed to get ****ed, right? But if a man does, it's demeaning and terrifying.

Homosexuality "isn't terribly uncommon?" That certainly isn't what the facts show.

See above re: Tyrion Lannister.

I don't doubt that many people with views like your own will use such slogans as an excuse to indulge in deviant behavior anyway regardless, however. :roll:

It's none of your business if I do. And none of my business if you do. Weirdly fair, right?

Yup. Our skyhigh STD rates? Our absurd single motherhood rates? Our unsustainably low birth rates?

Do you want to discriminate against blacks for sickle cell anemia rates? How about Jews for Gaucher's Disease? Men for colorblindness? Hell, men for HIV rates. A lot more men are infected with HIV than women, though lots of rape in male-dominated societies, and men lying to their female partners about infection and refusal to use condoms is changing that.

That's legit, right? And what exactly is low about birth rates in the west? Is this a "keeping whites in the majority" thing? We'd of course have fewer single mothers without so many deadbeat men. Wow, is there any part of this where men aren't just screwing things up for everyone? Maybe acting more like women would do us all some good.

All the myriad of social problems for which they are responsible for contributing?

Like what?

None of those things exist. Why don't you tell me another one? I could use a good laugh. :lol:[/QUOTE]

They exist, but you're asserting that they're linked to departure from the marital customs from the Dark Ages, and you have no evidence for that.

I hadn't noticed you said that. Will you wear the matador outfit tomorrow night?

Absolutely. I look fabulous in it.

Eww, why would i want to be natural? That sounds unbearably and disgustingly human (if being 'human' means sharing something in common with phobics like yourself, no thanks)

Clearly you should only wear furs, eat animals you clubbed to death yourself, drink water out of the river, avoid computers and TV, not read any written words, and communicate entirely in grunts. That's natural, right?

 

[Gathomas88]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

"Break down barriers between hetero and homo in general" - this gets accomplished entirely separate from any legal push from equality.

I believe that I said as much myself.

The social war is dead

Not quite yet, at least with regards to what I was discussing.

Frankly, even if it is, so what? The way things are going now, I highly doubt that our culture will be around for much longer in its current form anyway. The shift to which I referred earlier would simply be another nail in the coffin, really.

Or because they can't get laid otherwise cause women just aren't interested...but anyway, so what if it did? Why's experimenting like this even matter?

Oh right cause your religion

It's pointless, unnecessary, and it spreads disease.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Why do you think your bias matters at all? You are completely irrelevant to someone else's liberty to eat dirt, fly an airplane, have sex with and marry whatever consenting adult they love, or eat ice cream. Why do you think your opinion on someone else's life should have any effect whatsoever on how they live?

You are correct, they can do many things. They could have sex with their own mothers or with goats if they decide to. But my opinion on that, biased against their will to do these things as it may seem, is not a phobia. It is a commentary on their unnatural fruitless actions and behavior.

 

[chromium]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Not quite yet, at least with regards to what I was discussing.

Frankly, even if it is, so what? The way things are going now, I highly doubt that our culture will be around for much longer in its current form anyway. The shift to which I referred earlier would simply be another nail in the coffin, really.

Great, if so what, then stop complaining

It's pointless, unnecessary, and it spreads disease.

So then is the majority of hetero sex which is non procreative. Go complain of that

Anyway if heteros want to experiment, that's their choice! Who are you to tell them no?

 

[Paschendale]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

You are correct, they can do many things. They could have sex with their own mothers or with goats if they decide to. But my opinion on that, biased against their will to do these things as it may seem, is not a phobia. It is a commentary on their unnatural fruitless actions and behavior.

Hey, if heterosexual religious marriage is permitted, it's only a matter of time until men are forcibly marrying adolescent girls, right?

See, not only is that an obvious flaw in the slippery slope fallacy, it's also a criticism of of the male-supremacist positions that often coincide with the religious anti-gay movements. Because the existence of heterosexual marriage doesn't necessarily cause 14 year old girls to be forcibly married to 35 year old men, but that sort of thing almost exclusively happens in religious communities that also fight against gay rights.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Eww, why would i want to be natural? That sounds unbearably and disgustingly human (if being 'human' means sharing something in common with phobics like yourself, no thanks)

I understand your position. It would probably be impossible for you, or those like you, to make a rational distinction between the natural function of what a penis with a vagina provides, and what two penis together provide, so that is fine.

All then what is left is your delusion of what is natural and the hope that people like me don't continue to remind you of that.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Hey, if heterosexual religious marriage is permitted, it's only a matter of time until men are forcibly marrying adolescent girls, right?

See, not only is that an obvious flaw in the slippery slope fallacy, it's also a criticism of of the male-supremacist positions that often coincide with the religious anti-gay movements. Because the existence of heterosexual marriage doesn't necessarily cause 14 year old girls to be forcibly married to 35 year old men, but that sort of thing almost exclusively happens in religious communities that also fight against gay rights.

I don't know what you are talking about, I never even made a religious argument against homosexuality. You asked what business it was of mine to have an opinion on what homosexuals do, and I responded that it is not my business, they can do what they want to do. And I can call it as unnatural as having sex with one's own mother or a goat. Not that they will have sex with their own mothers and goats---- I made no slippery slope argument. Which I guess just means they are already at the bottom of the same slope as goat lovers, mother f... lovers, and even your religious douchebags who find justification for having sex with young girls.

Get it?

 

[chromium]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

I understand your position. It would probably be impossible for you, or those like you, to make a rational distinction between the natural function of what a penis with a vagina provides, and what two penis together provide, so that is fine.

All then what is left is your delusion of what is natural and the hope that people like me don't continue to remind you of that.

Like it takes some kind of special clairvoyance or reminder to predict what a homophobe would consider unnatural...

wasting your time

Searching for a "natural function" for the sex organ we're attracted to has nothing to do with it either.

 

[Gathomas88]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Please provide evidence for this claim.

SFGate - Many Gay Couples Have Open Relationships

Numerous other studies have also shown that male homosexuals tend to have staggering numbers of sexual partners in comparison to heterosexual men, and often tend to avoid long term committed relationships.

Even if this were true, why exactly is it a bad thing? If people want to experiment, they can experiment.

It's pointless, unnecessary, and massively increases a person's chances of contracting an STD.

I think we have more than enough of a problem with all three of those already. Wouldn't you say?

It's far more common than dwarfism.

Are you going to start discriminating against Peter Dinklage now?

And roughly about on par with autism.

CNN - Autism rates now 1 in 68 U.S. children: CDC

What's your point? They're both anomalous conditions.

I'm sorry your delicate feelings don't allow for exposure to things that aren't just like you. Would it make the world scary for you if there were more black people on TV than white people? What if there were *gasp* Muslims?

I would wonder what dishonest ideological agenda was being pushed that required they be rammed down the public's collective throats in such a manner when they constitute only a minority of the viewing audience.

Your eyelashes are your business, but you're the one who chooses to bat over other people's personal lives.

I choose to bat them over social trends which can clearly be shown to be damaging.

Just like racists and misogynists aren't tolerated.

And you believe this gives you license to silence dissenting opinions?

How would you like it if someone were to turn the tables on you in the same manner? Awfully authoritarian, don't you think?

You're right, whatever you do should clearly be reduced to second class citizenship because you're okay with that happening to anyone.

Foreign nationals are not allowed to run for the presidency, felons are not allowed to own firearms, and convicted sex offenders are not allowed on public school grounds.

Does the lack of "equality" at play there indicate that these persons are "second class citizens?"

For that matter, what have I proposed that even would make homosexuals "second class citizens" in the first place?

See? Weird fear of anal sex.

As opposed to your "weird" desire for it?

Ever go to any effort to prevent women from having anal sex? Of course not, they're supposed to get ****ed, right? But if a man does, it's demeaning and terrifying.

It's fairly unpleasant all the way around unless a person goes out of their way to ease the process through training and artificial means. That is true regardless of the gender under consideration.

If a woman wants to do so, more power to her, I suppose. However, I would neither pressure her into it, nor shame her for being adverse to the idea.

In any eventuality, none of this changes the fact that anal sex is a fundamentally unnatural, and therefore "perverted," act. That is exactly why most people, male and female, avoid it.

For that matter, how on Earth did we get on this subject in the first place? I never even mentioned anal sex in my original post.

It's none of your business if I do. And none of my business if you do. Weirdly fair, right?

It's none of my business at all.

I can, however, point out the stupidity of the behavior in question, and the misguided nature of the ideology which made it possible in the first place.

Do you want to discriminate against blacks for sickle cell anemia rates? How about Jews for Gaucher's Disease? Men for colorblindness? Hell, men for HIV rates. A lot more men are infected with HIV than women, though lots of rape in male-dominated societies, and men lying to their female partners about infection and refusal to use condoms is changing that.

What on Earth does this have to do with anything that is happening in our own society at the present moment?

The Western world has some of the highest rates of STDs and illegitimacy on the planet. Just a few decades ago, they were far less.

The only thing that has really changed between now and then is the introduction of social attitudes and behavior like your own. It really shouldn't take a weather man to see which way the wind's blowing in this regard.

And what exactly is low about birth rates in the west? Is this a "keeping whites in the majority" thing?

How about a stagnant economic growth thing? How about a tax base and labor force insufficient to support a rapidly aging population thing?

Do you imagine that civilizations are built upon good will alone?

We'd of course have fewer single mothers without so many deadbeat men.

And what makes you think that it is not women who are "deadbeats" in many cases these days? :roll:

As you said yourself earlier, many of them buy into the fantasy that it is possible for a woman with children to easily get by completely on their own without a partner.

Some do. However, a much larger number either does not, or only barely manages to get by with great personal hardship.

Wow, is there any part of this where men aren't just screwing things up for everyone? Maybe acting more like women would do us all some good.

Save your pitiful self-loathing for someone who cares.

They exist, but you're asserting that they're linked to departure from the marital customs from the Dark Ages, and you have no evidence for that.

Meaning what, gay marriage? I never implied any connection in the first place.

Where the linkage between our society's current problems and the decline of traditional marriage is concerned, however, the connection is undeniable.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Like it takes some kind of special clairvoyance or reminder to predict what a homophobe would consider unnatural...

wasting your time

Haha! there is that word again (homophobe) LOL! Sorry Charlie, doesn't work like that. You just said nothing. All you did was play a card, a card like something from a children's game--- like Old Maid or Go Fish. The word homophobe is as made up out of thin air as Mary Poppins and her supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, it means only something in fantasyland.


What you said was only an ad hominem attack. What you said:

Like it takes some kind of special clairvoyance or reminder to predict what a homophobe would consider unnatural...

... could just as easily be turned around with, Like it takes some special clairvoyance or reminder to predict what a sodomite would consider natural...

Because that would be an ad hominem and I would never phrase it that way.

 

[chromium]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

... could just as easily be turned around with, Like it takes some special clairvoyance or reminder to predict what a sodomite would consider natural...

Because that would be an ad hominem and I would never phrase it that way.

i certainly dare you to

 

[Helix]

re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90, 120]?

Moderator's Warning:

This thread now has less participants, and will have even fewer if this continues. This is a zero tolerance warning.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

i certainly dare you to

I wouldn't. The point was only used to illustrate that name calling serves no purpose in a debate.

 

[Logicman]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

no you are interpreting them in a particular way. I suggest since they were written by men at different times in history for a particular audience your interpretation is simply wrong. But that too should have nothing to do with government laws. I will fight forever that your church not have to condone gay marriages but I will also fight the same bigotry when they try to impose it on others.

Bigotry. Ha. If you condemn pedophilia are you bigots?

 

[Logicman]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Originally Posted by Logicman
You got embarrassed because you gave the bum's rush to the scriptures. Maybe you should read them someday so you'll know what it actually says.

You're an expert in the Quran, Bhagavad Gita, and Ramayana, right? Scriptures that are just as valid (read: not valid at all) as yours.

Those are not valid. Lots of reasons. And they don't have the signature of God: Fufilled Messianic prophecies at a rate far greater than chance.

 

[Logicman]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Enjoying false resurrection day i hope

Worship false gods = sin btw

Horse manure. You skeptics don't even know who Jesus is.

 

[chromium]

Re: What is the "Gay Agenda" and "Gay Propaganda"[W:90]?

Horse manure. You skeptics don't even know who Jesus is.

Right. Even growing up in a town of 5 churches and dragged to episcopalian as a kid, i've never heard of jesus. Get it right too. Skeptic would imply some amount of doubt. I'm full-blown denier.