What is the end game for the Democrats who want to ban some firearms?

[Aunt Antifa]

well that has been true since the cited supreme court cases were issued.

Like you’ve ever read a single SC opinion in your entire life.

 

[TurtleDude]

Like you’ve ever read a single SC opinion in your entire life.

well I know that the supreme court has ruled that the police do not have a duty to protect you. You claimed otherwise. You apparently are either unwilling to accept reality or engaging in contrarian nonsense

 

[Aunt Antifa]

well I know that the supreme court has ruled that the police do not have a duty to protect you.

I’m sorry sir, you’ve already tried this answer. Please sit down.

 

[TurtleDude]

I’m sorry sir, you’ve already tried this answer. Please sit down.

I wasn't expecting an honest response, nor one that actually admits that you were completely wrong on this subject but rather some nonsensical trolling


I was right

 

[jaeger19]

Neither do fanfic in which gun folks pretend they’re just waiting for the right moment when most of them wouldn’t do a single thing. which is why you prefer hiding your weapon.

Wow hyperbole much.
You waft between gun owners being gun toting pseudo policeman..
To craven cowards..
You need to take a breath and relax.
The vast majority of gun owners who carry are just law abiding citizens who want tge option to protect themselves if need be.

 

[TurtleDude]

Wow hyperbole much.
You waft between gun owners being gun toting pseudo policeman..
To craven cowards..
You need to take a breath and relax.
The vast majority of gun owners who carry are just law abiding citizens who want tge option to protect themselves if need be.

Yeah, her argument was designed to attack gun owners no matter what they do

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Wow hyperbole much.
You waft between gun owners being gun toting pseudo policeman..
To craven cowards..
You need to take a breath and relax.
The vast majority of gun owners who carry are just law abiding citizens who want tge option to protect themselves if need be.

I think gun owners being “pseudo policemen” and “craven cowards” are the same thing.

 

[TurtleDude]

I think gun owners being “pseudo policemen” and “craven cowards” are the same thing.

as usual, an illogical claim that has absolutely no basis in fact. I note one bit of consistency-most gun banners-whose end game is for only police to have legal firearms in a civilian environment, are often cop-bashers

 

[Aunt Antifa]

as usual, an illogical claim that has absolutely no basis in fact. I note one bit of consistency-most gun banners-whose end game is for only police to have legal firearms in a civilian environment, are often cop-bashers

Our bashing stops at words.

 

[jaeger19]

You are convinced you need a weapon to buy some toothpaste at a walmart safely, it sounds like vapors is a speciality.

You do realize your complete intellectual disconnect here right?
On one hand you claim America is a country with "mass slaughter" and citizens being gunned down in the streets regularly.
And on the other hand ..you ridicule people for carrying a firearm to protect themselves since it's ridiculous for them to thinl.they are in danger on the streets.

You really can't logically have it both ways..there Auntie.

So which is it? Is America a gun toting dangerous country with mass slaughter ?
Or is it a safe country with nothing for its citizens to fear?

Please answer.

 

[jaeger19]

I think gun owners being “pseudo policemen” and “craven cowards” are the same thing.

How so?
I mean you apparently want gun owners to be pseudo policeman. I mean why are you making fun of turtledude for carrying a firearm concealed so as not to worry the general public
And for not jumping in to every unknown situation with his firearm. ..ready to shoot someone?

 

[TurtleDude]

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Our bashing stops at words.

tell that to the police captain in St Louis killed by BLM rioters

 

[Aunt Antifa]

You do realize your complete intellectual disconnect here right?
On one hand you claim America is a country with "mass slaughter" and citizens being gunned down in the streets regularly.
And on the other hand ..you ridicule people for carrying a firearm to protect themselves since it's ridiculous for them to thinl.they are in danger on the streets.

You really can't logically have it both ways..there Auntie.

So which is it? Is America a gun toting dangerous country with mass slaughter ?
Or is it a safe country with nothing for its citizens to fear?

Please answer.

So I think the country is nuts for being a gun-slaughter-playground, and I don’t like that people have access to all of these guns…and these two arguments seem in conflict to you?

When did I declare the country safe with nothing to fear? Quote that verbatim. Ghead. I’ll wait.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

tell that to the police captain in St Louis killed by BLM rioters

I’m quite sure I gave him a “thoughts and prayers” which per our customs is the ultimate in human empathy and sacrifice.

 

[TurtleDude]

So I think the country is nuts for being a gun-slaughter-playground, and I don’t like that people have access to all of these guns…and these two arguments seem in conflict to you?

When did I declare the country safe with nothing to fear? Quote that verbatim. Ghead. I’ll wait.

it is a typical logical failure in anti gun posts-the attitude that someone has to be paranoid to think they need to carry a firearm for self-defense, while at the same time saying violent gun crime is so high, people need to be prevented or at least severely restricted from having guns.

the reason why anti gunners don't see this logical inconsistency is because their anti gun agenda is not motivated by crime issues, but rather a political agenda

 

[jaeger19]

So I think the country is nuts for being a gun-slaughter-playground, and I don’t like that people have access to all of these guns…and these two arguments seem in conflict to you?

When did I declare the country safe with nothing to fear? Quote that verbatim. Ghead. I’ll wait.

Well ..if the country is NOT safe with nothing to fear..
Why ridicule someone for
" if you think you need a gun to go buy a toothbrush"

I mean you contend that we have mass slaughter..
And then ridicule someone for the idea they need to protect themselves.
That doesn't make sense logically.
Please explain which it is..

 

[Aunt Antifa]

it is a typical logical failure in anti gun posts-the attitude that someone has to be paranoid to think they need to carry a firearm for self-defense, while at the same time saying violent gun crime is so high, people need to be prevented or at least severely restricted from having guns.

the reason why anti gunners don't see this logical inconsistency is because their anti gun agenda is not motivated by crime issues, but rather a political agenda

Yes, that’s how that works. Unfettered access to guns has created a gun-slaughter-hellscape in which 12 year olds run around shooting them, so it’s just normal to wanna do something about that other than “here, have more guns.” Your arguments are the definition of someone seeing nails as the only problem leading to just one rational solution.

I guess that’s why firefighters use blow torches and flame throwers, amirite?

 

[PirateMk1]

It’s just about qualified immunity. Das all.

No, no its not. You wish to be willfully ignorant, that's on you.

 

[jaeger19]

it is a typical logical failure in anti gun posts-the attitude that someone has to be paranoid to think they need to carry a firearm for self-defense, while at the same time saying violent gun crime is so high, people need to be prevented or at least severely restricted from having guns.

the reason why anti gunners don't see this logical inconsistency is because their anti gun agenda is not motivated by crime issues, but rather a political agenda

Bingo.
I really think we need to find out what Auntie really believes.

 

[TurtleDude]

Bingo.
I really think we need to find out what Auntie really believes.

Our guesses are probably as good as hers

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Well ..if the country is NOT safe with nothing to fear..
Why ridicule someone for
" if you think you need a gun to go buy a toothbrush"

I mean you contend that we have mass slaughter..
And then ridicule someone for the idea they need to protect themselves.
That doesn't make sense logically.
Please explain which it is..

Because understanding that we live in a free society in which crime is an element of that society and being so afraid you can’t buy household products without arming yourself are two different things. I lock my doors at night, I do not however have a moat around my home. I look both ways before crossing the street, I do not hire helicopters to ferry me over intersections.

I ridicule the argument that all the gun slaughter requires more guns and more slaughter.

 

[jaeger19]

Yes, that’s how that works. Unfettered access to guns has created a gun-slaughter-hellscape in which 12 year olds run around shooting them, so it’s just normal to wanna do something about that other than “here, have more guns.” Your arguments are the definition of someone seeing nails as the only problem leading to just one rational solution.

I guess that’s why firefighters use blow torches and flame throwers, amirite?

Wait.. its already illegal for 12 year olds to run around with guns shooting people..
So why do you want to take turtledude..an older gentleman's..means of protection away?

Please explain..

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Wait.. its already illegal for 12 year olds to run around with guns shooting people..
So why do you want to take turtledude..an older gentleman's..means of protection away?

Please explain..

As soon as you confirm for me you understand the words “unfettered access”

Please explain?

 

[TurtleDude]

Because understanding that we live in a free society in which crime is an element of that society and being so afraid you can’t buy household products without arming yourself are two different things. I lock my doors at night, I do not however have a moat around my home. I look both ways before crossing the street, I do not hire helicopters to ferry me over intersections.

I ridicule the argument that all the gun slaughter requires more guns and more slaughter.

assuming facts you cannot prove. You are assuming those who carry are afraid. that's something you cannot prove and throw out in the hopes someone will believe that bullshit. You also only want to disarm honest people-and they are rarely the source of "slaughter"

 

[Aunt Antifa]

No, no its not. You wish to be willfully ignorant, that's on you.

You and the folks in this thread got sent an FB forward and now you think COPS CONSTITUTIONALLY WILL NOT PROTECT YOU is how you prove people need AR-15’s.

Sooooo stupid.