What is the effect of US deportations on the housing and rental market?

[bythoughts]

I asked an AI, "what is the effect of US deportations on the housing and rental market?" (link should be good for two weeks)

Its answer was entirely doom and gloom: deporting the illegals would free up a few units, but housing construction would be slowed by labor shortages. It even claims that U.S. construction workers will be laid off because the illegals "complement" the jobs by US citizens.

It cited sources like 1 2 3 4 ...

Now the question is: do you believe it? Do you believe the sources giving these estimates? They make sense in one way, but in another, I'm not so sure. I always feel like there are developers crawling all around our communities looking for ways that they might be permitted to build cheap housing, and the big obstacle is bureaucrats don't want anything built in their tax base that can be purchased by less than a millionaire. I don't feel like they get permission for the project and then oopsie, no labor. But I don't know anything about construction, so I'll ask you folks instead!

 

[Hari Seldon]

The village i work at just approved a 75 unit senior housing project.

 

[ttwtt78640]

The increasing cost of housing is more due to the increasing cost of land (close to urban centers) than to the increasing cost of building materials and construction/maintenance labor.

 

[Captain Adverse]

I asked an AI, "what is the effect of US deportations on the housing and rental market?" (link should be good for two weeks)

Its answer was entirely doom and gloom: deporting the illegals would free up a few units, but housing construction would be slowed by labor shortages. It even claims that U.S. construction workers will be laid off because the illegals "complement" the jobs by US citizens.

It cited sources like 1 2 3 4 ...

Now the question is: do you believe it? Do you believe the sources giving these estimates? They make sense in one way, but in another, I'm not so sure. I always feel like there are developers crawling all around our communities looking for ways that they might be permitted to build cheap housing, and the big obstacle is bureaucrats don't want anything built in their tax base that can be purchased by less than a millionaire. I don't feel like they get permission for the project and then oopsie, no labor. But I don't know anything about construction, so I'll ask you folks instead!

Well, the problem I have with the information is that it argues for pursuing support for illegal employment because such workers are willing to work for a fraction of what an American employee would expect. This because being paid "under-the-table" allows employers to ignore both taxes, and paying for social benefit programs (SS, MedCare, etc.). So many people who argue for keeping the flow of illegals do so for the above reason, and in fact do argue this over and over i.e. "who will do the jobs Americans refuse absent fair wages?"

There is a reason ICE and other Immigration units focus on construction sites, large farms, Home Depot and other big lot stores, car washes, etc. Rightly so.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Well, the problem I have with the information is that it argues for pursuing illegal employment because such workers are willing to work for a fraction of what an American employee would expect. This because being paid "under-the-table" allows employers to ignore taxes, paying for social benefit programs (SS, MedCare, etc.). So many people who argue for keeping the flow of illegals do so for the above reason, and in fact do argue this over and over i.e. "who will do the jobs Americans refuse absent fair wages?"

There is a reason ICE and other Immigration units focus on construction sites, large farms, Home Depot and other big lot stores, car washes, etc.

All those hardened criminals.

 

[Peter]

Who knew so many US companies liked hiring killers and rapists?

 

[holbritter]

Depends on the state/area and how much they used illegal immigrants or not.