What is the bigger threat to our nation?

[Mycroft]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

 

[Lex Talionis]

You are missing a third option, MAGA ideology.

 

[Redress]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

Dishonestgate, where an online poster applies dishonest spin to events to push a false narrative.

 

[Jetboogieman]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

Surely the biggest threat was Obamas fake birth certificate and how he was allowed to do 2 terms (3 if you count pulling the strings behind Biden) even though he was illegitimate right Mycroft?

The problem that I see for him is...what if Arpaio tracks down the guy...or guys...who forged the birth certificate?

So you say...but it hasn't been proven that the copy Obama made public is of the one certified by the State of Hawaii...in fact, it has been proven that what Obama made public was photoshopped. It's fake.

Not well, since the short form isn't worth the paper it's printed on. So, why do you think he went the photoshop route with the long form?

Arpeio's investigation didn't involve the actual birth certificate...though I'm sure he'd like to see it.

What he says is that the digital representation of Obama's birth certificate that Obama presented to the world is a fake.

what Obama made available as a representation of his birth certificate is not a real birth certificate...rather it is a constructed forgery.

The problem here is...not only is it not the real birth certificate, it's not even a copy of ANY birth certificate.

I've never said Obama's birth certificate is fake...in fact, despite not having seen his birth certificate, I'm confident he has one.

This is about the thing Obama presented as a representation of his birth certificate. We haven't seen his birth certificate yet.

he Obama apologists see any questioning of anything related to Obama as being an attack on him. They will react ferociously. They can't even bear to think that Obama might have some kind of motive of his own to release such an obvious forgery.

From the investigation, it WAS obvious the birth certificate was a fake.

Surely we should get to the bottom of this dangerous lie hey Mycroft?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

The biggest threat to the nation are idiots who are still whining about the 2020 election.
I mean, sooner or late you would hope some people would grow up, but apparently not.

 

[Mycroft]

Dishonestgate, where an online poster applies dishonest spin to events to push a false narrative.

What dishonest spin are you referring to?

 

[Questerr]

Surely the biggest threat was Obamas fake birth certificate and how he was allowed to do 2 terms (3 if you count pulling the strings behind Biden) even though he was illegitimate right Mycroft?























Surely we should get to the bottom of this dangerous lie hey Mycroft?

If its a conspiracy theory pushed by far right media, no matter how stupid it may be, you can guarantee @Mycroft will believe it.

 

[Redress]

What dishonest spin are you referring to?

Your entire OP. It reads like something out of zerohedge or gatewaypundit, or other conspiracy website that blatantly lies and their followers still love them.

 

[Mycroft]

Your entire OP. It reads like something out of zerohedge or gatewaypundit, or other conspiracy website that blatantly lies and their followers still love them.

I assure you, both scenarios are true.

Your denials won't change the truth.

Moving on...

 

[Jetboogieman]

If its a conspiracy theory pushed by far right media, no matter how stupid it may be, you can guarantee @Mycroft will believe it.

The thing is, in the current media landscape we live in.

You can make anyone believe ****ing anything.

I guarantee you, you can go to on TikTok right now, make an account called "FreedomHealth092920".

And pretend to eat sand on the beach and be like:

"Guys, this is what the health industry doesn't want you to know, eating several grams of sand a day will help your digestive system to return to the state our ancestors had, it will help you with any digestive problems you may have, clean out your gut and help you fight off disease and even cancer" and I promise you'll get people to believe you and actually consume sand.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

If its a conspiracy theory pushed by far right media, no matter how stupid it may be, you can guarantee @Mycroft will believe it.

He actually doesn't believe it. Think about it. He is just spouting the party line. So it's not stupidity, it's being brainwashed.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Your entire OP. It reads like something out of zerohedge or gatewaypundit, or other conspiracy website that blatantly lies and their followers still love them.

You mean like Fox News.

 

[j brown's body]

 

[Roadvirus]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

Trumpism.

 

[Irredentist]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

Neither of them matter at all, because both parties and all the politicians in them do the exact same shit to each other every chance they get. These manufactured "controversies" are just political ammunition for the pawns like us to throw at each other. The only way to win is to stop playing their games.

 

[Hari Seldon]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

Maga scumbag gate. Where their malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer tax cheat and pedophile leader can do anything he wants no questions asked. Much worse than anything you mentioned.

 

[Juin]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

I see both as manifestations of the same thing. Federal overreach and abuse of Federal Power.

 

[phoenix2020]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

People who claim to have incontrovertible evidence of massive electoral fraud in order to undermine public confidence in our safe and secure election process in order to lay a foundation for rigging it are the biggest threat to our nation.

 

[Airyaman]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

The first one is not accurate and I'm not even sure the 2nd one is either.

 

[JohnfrmClevelan]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

In your own special way, you did manage to stumble onto the real answer.

 

[Hari Seldon]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…​

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?


I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

 

[Mycroft]

I see both as manifestations of the same thing. Federal overreach and abuse of Federal Power.

Of course...they are...but that's not my question.

 

[Mycroft]

The first one is not accurate and I'm not even sure the 2nd one is either.

Be assured...they are both accurate and true.

Do you have an answer to my question?

 

[Mycroft]

In your own special way, you did manage to stumble onto the real answer.

I don't stumble. I've been following these two issues for almost 10 years.

So...what's your answer to my question?

 

[Jay59]

♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?

OR…

♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?

I think Spygate is worse. In a while, I'll tell you why.

It's hard to believe that people still claim Obama's crimeboss-style administration had no scandals.