What is real cancel culture, GOP states whitewashing our history,pun intended, or publishers canceling or refusing books?

[independentusa]

The GOP states want to end the teaching of what the call critical race theory, which is really the history of slavery and racism in this country. Germany teaches the Holocaust to every student to insure it never happens again. The GOP in this country doesn't want to hurt the feeling of its white children by making them look at what can only be called a history of persecution of people of color. The GOp at the same time rails about cancel culture every time a Trumper is refused a book deal or has one cancelled sue to their actions. Or that online media refuses to allow cons to tell lies or calls for those who want to hurt our nation to attack people or places. So, which is real cancel culture?

 

[Yakshi]

The term "cancel culture" is just the label that some have settled on in order to make the idea of accountability seem unfair.

"You mean I can't say ____________ now?"

Sure, you can say ____________ now, but you're accountable for what you say--same as Mel Gibson, same as Michael Richards, some as all of the other celebrities that decided to be assholes.

"Why are libs/conservatives boycotting ______________?"

Gosh, I don't know why they'd be getting the Dixie Chicks treatment. Consumers have the right to decide what not to buy.

 

[Fishking]

The GOP states want to end the teaching of what the call critical race theory, which is really the history of slavery and racism in this country. Germany teaches the Holocaust to every student to insure it never happens again. The GOP in this country doesn't want to hurt the feeling of its white children by making them look at what can only be called a history of persecution of people of color. The GOp at the same time rails about cancel culture every time a Trumper is refused a book deal or has one cancelled sue to their actions. Or that online media refuses to allow cons to tell lies or calls for those who want to hurt our nation to attack people or places. So, which is real cancel culture?

It may come as a shock to you, but you can teach about the atrocities in our nation's history without the CRT bullshit that says white people are terrible and all racist.

 

[Yakshi]

Fox News editorial meeting.

"What dumb shit can we get them to believe today?"

"I got one. It's called CRT."

"What's CRT?"

"That's the whole point! We'll tell them what it is, and they'll squeal like stuck pigs till death, and we'll have great ratings."

"Okay. But it has to hit the Big Three: whites are victims, whites are victims, whites are victims."

"We'll tell them it says white people are shitty and all a bunch of racists!"

"You think they're that dumb?"

[Intern on Wikipedia] "Uh, it doesn't mean that at all. Right here it says . . ."

"Fire that intern, lead with CRT, and make our first commercial about adult diapers. They're going to need them."

 

[Yakshi]

In three months, conservatives will be screaming about AYP, but Tucker hasn't decided what it means yet.

 

[Rawley]

The GOP states want to end the teaching of what the call critical race theory, which is really the history of slavery and racism in this country. Germany teaches the Holocaust to every student to insure it never happens again. The GOP in this country doesn't want to hurt the feeling of its white children by making them look at what can only be called a history of persecution of people of color. The GOp at the same time rails about cancel culture every time a Trumper is refused a book deal or has one cancelled sue to their actions. Or that online media refuses to allow cons to tell lies or calls for those who want to hurt our nation to attack people or places. So, which is real cancel culture?

Do you have some examples of school districts in the US that don't teach about slavery or racism. I'll help you shame them.

 

[bongsaway]

It may come as a shock to you, but you can teach about the atrocities in our nation's history without the CRT bullshit that says white people are terrible and all racist.

It can be taught doesn't mean it is taught. I don't recall any in depth learning about slavery when I was in school fifty five years ago.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

It can be taught doesn't mean it is taught. I don't recall any in depth learning about slavery when I was in school fifty five years ago.

We were taught about slavery, and I'm from the south.

 

[TobyOne]

Not its not. Cite a bill that would prevent the teaching of slavery and racism. Detach from the hive mind. Stay away from the fever swamps.

The GOP states want to end the teaching of what the call critical race theory, which is really the history of slavery and racism in this country. Germany teaches the Holocaust to every student to insure it never happens again. The GOP in this country doesn't want to hurt the feeling of its white children by making them look at what can only be called a history of persecution of people of color. The GOp at the same time rails about cancel culture every time a Trumper is refused a book deal or has one cancelled sue to their actions. Or that online media refuses to allow cons to tell lies or calls for those who want to hurt our nation to attack people or places. So, which is real cancel culture?

 

[Fishking]

It can be taught doesn't mean it is taught. I don't recall any in depth learning about slavery when I was in school fifty five years ago.

Yeah...and you also probably didn't have a computer programing class. To act like kids don't learn about slavery and racism in today's modern world is ridiculous. Hell, it's like they aren't learning how to read, write, or properly do math anymore but they'll go on and on about these types of typics.

 

[independentusa]

It may come as a shock to you, but you can teach about the atrocities in our nation's history without the CRT bullshit that says white people are terrible and all racist.

I hate to tell you , but our K-12 schools do not now nor ever have taught CRT. It is a law term and is only taught in law schools. What our schools do try to teach is the history of our nation which includes both slavery and racism. I am old enough to have lived in the south and went to a segregated school. I can tell you there was no separate but equal about separate but equal. Now we have again white power movements in our country. These are the things which states controlled by the GOP are trying to keep from being taught in their schools and they call it CRT.

 

[independentusa]

Do you have some examples of school districts in the US that don't teach about slavery or racism. I'll help you shame them.

Texas just passed a law that they could only teach "patriotic history and our Christian heritage". What do you think that means. It means do not make white people feel bad about our history or what is happening today with the white supremacists once again raising their ugly heads in this country.

 

[bongsaway]

Yeah...and you also probably didn't have a computer programing class. To act like kids don't learn about slavery and racism in today's modern world is ridiculous. Hell, it's like they aren't learning how to read, write, or properly do math anymore but they'll go on and on about these types of typics.

Now is that math like the math I was taught or is it the new math, whatever that is? To act like slavery was a main subject in school is even more ridiculous.

 

[Rawley]

Texas just passed a law that they could only teach "patriotic history and our Christian heritage". What do you think that means. It means do not make white people feel bad about our history or what is happening today with the white supremacists once again raising their ugly heads in this country.

The 1836 Project requires the promotion of several areas of Texas history including, "awareness among residents of this state of the following as they relate to the history of prosperity and democratic freedom in this state: Texas history, including the indigenous peoples of this state, the Spanish and Mexican heritage of this state, Tejanos, the African-American heritage of this state, the Texas War for Independence, Juneteenth, annexation of Texas by the United States, and the Christian heritage of this state."

Strike 1.

Texas Creates '1836 Project' to Promote Patriotic Education and Christian Heritage

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) signed legislation this week creating the Texas 1836 Project.

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[ataraxia]

Do you have some examples of school districts in the US that don't teach about slavery or racism. I'll help you shame them.

CRT is standard curriculum in law school. Not sure why the rest of the lay public has to be shielded from it.

 

[ataraxia]

Strike 1.

Texas Creates '1836 Project' to Promote Patriotic Education and Christian Heritage

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) signed legislation this week creating the Texas 1836 Project.

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America does not have a Christian heritage. In fact, it was created out of a reaction against it. If Texas wants to keep insisting it has a Christian heritage, that's fine- as long as it is not being used as an "engine of power".

"'The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"
-John Adams

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes."
-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.

“Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory..., more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid or produces only atheists or fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of despotism, and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests, but so far as respects the good of man in general it leads to nothing here or hereafter.”
― Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution...In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the Civil authority; in many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny: in no instance have they been seen the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty, may have found an established Clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just Government instituted to secure & perpetuate it needs them not.”
-James Madison

 

[tres borrachos]

It can be taught doesn't mean it is taught. I don't recall any in depth learning about slavery when I was in school fifty five years ago.

There was not much teaching about slavery in my childrens' public schools. And they are all in their early 20s.

I was taught little about it in my schooling back in the 70s. Some, but not much.

 

[bongsaway]

There was not much teaching about slavery in my childrens' public schools. And they are all in their early 20s.

I was taught little about it in my schooling back in the 70s. Some, but not much.

And I was taught even less in the sixties if I was taught anything at all about the subject. To the best of my excellent memory I don't remember it being taught at all.

 

[Rawley]

And I was taught even less in the sixties if I was taught anything at all about the subject. To the best of my excellent memory I don't remember it being taught at all.

Just curious, how did they explain when they gave you the day off for Lincoln's birthday?

 

[bongsaway]

Just curious, how did they explain when they gave you the day off for Lincoln's birthday?

? You didn't get the day off in catholic school. We got off for holy days of obligation, easter and christmas. Those other 'holidays' are all public school holidays.

 

[Rawley]

? You didn't get the day off in catholic school. We got off for holy days of obligation, easter and christmas. Those other 'holidays' are all public school holidays.

You went to some ****ed up school.

I went to Catholic school in the 60s and we had Washington's and Lincoln's birthday off. And we were taught about the Civil War in History. DId they skip from the Revolutionary War to World War II? No one asked about what happened in between?

 

[code1211]

The GOP states want to end the teaching of what the call critical race theory, which is really the history of slavery and racism in this country. Germany teaches the Holocaust to every student to insure it never happens again. The GOP in this country doesn't want to hurt the feeling of its white children by making them look at what can only be called a history of persecution of people of color. The GOp at the same time rails about cancel culture every time a Trumper is refused a book deal or has one cancelled sue to their actions. Or that online media refuses to allow cons to tell lies or calls for those who want to hurt our nation to attack people or places. So, which is real cancel culture?

As I understand it, CRT teaches that today's youth and anyone who is "White" is culpable for slavery and all of the evils that implies.

How does that attach to simply teaching that slavery was a bad thing and it existed in the US and was eradicated over several years of intellectual and physical strife?

I volunteer at a food pantry and work with people of various ages. Yesterday, I was working with a couple individuals who were both 17.

They were discussing the new holiday, Juneteenth, and the topic, in general, of the emancipation of the slaves. Also the admittance of Texas into the union as a "Slave State" delayed until a "Free State" could also be admitted.

They seemed to understand the idea that slavery was bad, but also seemed entirely free of knowledge of the convulsions of politics plaguing the Republic in the years preceding the Civil War.

They were not at all familiar with the names of Henry Clay and Danial Webster as they related to the debates regarding the balance of power in the Congress and the notion of Manifest Destiny.

There seems to be a particular point of view taught in schools regarding race today that omits the philosophies and debates that drove them and fails to place them in the overall ideas of the time.

Slavery existed in the US. Slavery seems to have existed throughout the history of the world. It has always been a demoralizing and dehumanizing subjugation.

People who have NEVER been associated with any form of slavery at any time in any way are NOT responsible for slavery that ceased to exist before they were born.