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What is meant by "defender of western civilization?

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A speaker tonight said that Trump as the 'defender of western civilization". I guess that would be open to many interpretations, but to me it would mean defender of white society. It would include only those of white European decent and their civilization and would not include all of the diverse civilizations that have gone into making the America today.
 

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A speaker tonight said that Trump as the 'defender of western civilization". I guess that would be open to many interpretations, but to me it would mean defender of white society. It would include only those of white European decent and their civilization and would not include all of the diverse civilizations that have gone into making the America today.

If you think that a term that has been in common parlance for decades means "white society" how exactly does that make any sense? From a rhetorical perspective, Donald Trump constantly flouts the NATO alliance especially towards very, very white countries such as Germany. So to say that he only cares about defending "white" countries is belied by the evidence. He does not care about any civilization or society at large or any country in particular except the United States, and perhaps demonstrates a paternal fondness for Israel and the United Kingdom to a lesser degree. Apparently everyone else, majority-white or otherwise, else can shove off for all he cares.

To me "Western Civilization" simply means those countries which are governed through the applied syncretic philosophical values of Greek/Athenian, Republican Roman and British Common Law. In the practical sense, being a part of "Western Civilization" translates into being a law-governed representative democracy in which individual rights are largely respected under the law from a moderate to a very high degree. Thus, a majority non-white country like Japan or South Korea would be a part of "Western Civilization," while a majority (if not entirely) white country such as Russia or Belarus would not be.
 
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I don't know about "Defender of Western Civilization" but I do think speakers on night 1 either closed off doors that should have remained open or stepped on their own message before their speeches were over. Don Jr simply shut the door on Seniors as he doubled down on the end of Social Security during a second Trump term. Smooth JR, real smooth. So much for the Senior vote.

Most of the other speakers did well until they virtually all tried to paint Biden as a rabid Socialist utterly trashing their credibility with all but the most ardent Trump-humper in the process.

Herschel Walker's appearance was really too funny. Walker made $5M his first three years with the Jersey Generals of the USFL and only made another $12M in ten additional years of NFL play after Donnie boy bought and then destroyed the Generals and the entire USFL league, something Jersey sports fans have still not forgiven him for. So a big AH-HUH goes out to you Herschel. Given his abilities Walker probably would have earned 2x or 3x that amount if Donnie Boy had not destroyed the USFL.

Nickie Haley simply comes off tone deaf in claiming the US is not a racist country. Geezuz Nickie, get a history book why don't you. I don't care about your anecdotal story of your own family story.
 

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A speaker tonight said that Trump as the 'defender of western civilization". I guess that would be open to many interpretations, but to me it would mean defender of white society. It would include only those of white European decent and their civilization and would not include all of the diverse civilizations that have gone into making the America today.

Yes, it's a dog whistle phrase for whitewashing any anti-third world history, and continued bigotry and exploitation. It's just a rallying cry based on lies as usual, the 'you're under attack and we save you' propaganda.
 

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Yes, it's a dog whistle phrase for whitewashing any anti-third world history, and continued bigotry and exploitation. It's just a rallying cry based on lies as usual, the 'you're under attack and we save you' propaganda.

Trump's theme since he descended the escalator has been that the barbarians are at the gates. He found an approach worked for him, the fear of "the other," the culmination of the so-called southern strategy, and parlayed that into an electoral college victory. Time (a few months) will tell if that still works, but his fascist style won't be adopted by republicans once he passes from the scene, be that in five months or five years. He is an aberration.
 

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I would bet real money that if somebody were polling real time during night 1 of the RNC, Trump polling went right off the cliff edge during Kimberly Guilfoyle's rant. Holy Geezus, somebody give that woman a chill pill.

Equally stunning, her performance was taped. So some set of utterly cement headed campaign aides looked at that tape and said "yea, OK.....we'll go with that".
 

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Trump's theme since he descended the escalator has been that the barbarians are at the gates. He found an approach worked for him, the fear of "the other," the culmination of the so-called southern strategy, and parlayed that into an electoral college victory. Time (a few months) will tell if that still works, but his fascist style won't be adopted by republicans once he passes from the scene, be that in five months or five years. He is an aberration.

The ways he's an aberration aren't really his fascism or plutocracy. Those are likely to continue if Republicans have power. It's his personality cult that will end.
 

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Nickie Haley just shot her future national political career to smithereens. Nice job Nickie.

She apparently is entirely incapable of keeping two thoughts in her head which immediately disqualifies her as a President or VP.

She can't seem to understand that the country can be racist and that most of us are lucky to live here.

If your ancestors where hauled here and into Chattel Slavery YOU ARE NOT LUCKY TO BE HERE.

And another thing I should clear up right here is this nonsense of Whites being hauled here under the same circumstances. Some Whites were brought here Indentured. Indenture IS NOT Chattel Slavery.
 

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A speaker tonight said that Trump as the 'defender of western civilization". I guess that would be open to many interpretations, but to me it would mean defender of white society. It would include only those of white European decent and their civilization and would not include all of the diverse civilizations that have gone into making the America today.

“Western Civilization” means Classics…and White Supremacy :: Pharos

Basically the thinking goes "western civilization is the genius of white people and why white people dominated the rest of the world, other races will pollute that with their backwards ways"

Its basically 1800s thinking that is still around today.

This not to say that the ideas of greece, rome, etc are not good (I think they are great ideas on how to run a society), but it is in error to say that this is solely the domain of a single demographic either.
 

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I did not hear that speaker, but I hope that he meant something like: There are no good or bad cultures/civilizations.

There are only different cultures/civilizations.

The United States of America has a primarily European-based culture/civilization.

Americans of ALL ethnicities will find it to their advantage to support our current dominant culture/civilization.
 

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A speaker tonight said that Trump as the 'defender of western civilization". I guess that would be open to many interpretations, but to me it would mean defender of white society. It would include only those of white European decent and their civilization and would not include all of the diverse civilizations that have gone into making the America today.

Democrats and leftists have equated Western society with white racism, which is driving so many gullible blacks to hate America and hate cops. I hate those leftists and democrats who propagate such hateful divisive lies.
 

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Geez I almost forgot that to make matters worse, Nickie Haley had the nerve to bring up North Korea as a Trump highlight. Good grief, you would think they would want everybody to forget that farce.
 
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