What is it that makes a man a woman?

[Lisa]

Your google broken?

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A biological male is a person who usually has XY sex chromosomes, which are determined by the chromosomes they inherit from their parents:

• Chromosomes
  Humans typically have 46 chromosomes, including two sex chromosomes that determine biological sex. Males usually have one X and one Y chromosome, while females usually have two X chromosomes.
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• Reproductive organs
  Males usually have testes and produce sperm, while females usually have ovaries and produce eggs.
  
  
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• Other characteristics
  Biological males may have broader shoulders, increased body hair, an enlarged larynx (Adam's apple), and a deeper voice than a child or woman.
  

Gender is different from DNA and chromosomes, which are part of our biological sex.

 

[Cope]

Gender is different from DNA and chromosomes, which are part of our biological sex.

Who cares? That isn't what was asked.

Follow the conversation. Biological WAS specified.

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

Who cares? That isn't what was asked.

Follow the conversation. Biological WAS specified.

Biology is being discussed because the question is whether there are actual brain differences in transgender individuals.

But that still wouldn't be about their sex. It would be about their gender.

All it would mean, if there's any validity to the theory, is that biological factors also influence one's gender. Specifically neurological ones. Not one's reproductive organs or hormone balance and percentages.

 

[Lisa]

Who cares? That isn't what was asked.

Follow the conversation.

It is the female gender identity of a person, despite the fact that they may have a male body, that makes them a women and not a guy, despite their DNA, chromosomes or genitalia. That is the basic concept of the discussion. Until you learn that idea, then nothing else comes close to being important.

 

[Cope]

It is the female gender identity of a person, despite the fact that they may have a male body, that makes them a women and not a guy, despite their DNA, chromosomes or genitalia. That is the basic concept of the discussion. Until you learn that idea, then nothing else comes close to being important.

Again, IRRELEVANT to what we were discussing.

If you quote me, and respond to me, respond to what I've said not what your brain thinks I mean. OR, don't bother responding to me at all. Instead respond to someone who was having the discussion you want to have.

 

[Lisa]

Again, IRRELEVANT to what we were discussing.

If you quote me, and respond to me, respond to what I've said not what your brain thinks I mean. OR, don't bother responding to me at all and respond to someone who was having the discussion you want to have.

Reply number 3. Please re-read it.

 

[Cope]

Biology is being discussed because the question is whether there are actual brain differences in transgender individuals.

But that still wouldn't be about their sex. It would be about their gender.

All it would mean, if there's any validity to the theory, is that biological factors also influence one's gender. Specifically neurological ones. Not one's reproductive organs or hormone balance and percentages.

Good grief.

Is it that hard to follow the conversation that was being had?

Hint: It wasn't what you discuss in a response to me (which also wasn't discussing that)

 

[Cope]

Reply number 3. Please re-read it.

LOL.

It's irrelevant to the discussion I was having with @dairyair

Again, follow the discussion.

 

[Lisa]

LOL.

It's irrelevant to the discussion I was having with @dairyair

Again, follow the discussion.

Is this an admission that you are off-topic in this thread whose creation was too discuss gender identity of a person, and how a person who appears to be a member of one sex can actually be the a opposite sex because of their incongruent gender identity?

 

[Cope]

Is this an admission that you are off-topic in this thread whose creation was too discuss gender identity of a person, and how a person who appears to be a member of one sex can actually be the a opposite sex because of their incongruent gender identity?

It's an admission that you have been unable to follow a side conversation concerning this issue.

If I really wanted to be off topic, I could have gone to the new fangled Buuuuuut Biden!

 

[Lisa]

It's an admission that you have been unable to follow a side conversation concerning this issue.

If I really wanted to be off topic, I could have gone to the new fangled Buuuuuut Biden!

You started with a off-topic strawman reply at #233.

 

[Cope]

You started with a off-topic strawman reply at #233.

Wrong, per usual.

My reply at #233 was a direct response to @DCCougar and again, if you were able to follow the conversation, you will find where you jumped in, incorrectly assuming I was talking about something else.

 

[dairyair]

Your google broken?

"
A biological male is a person who usually has XY sex chromosomes, which are determined by the chromosomes they inherit from their parents:

• Chromosomes
  Humans typically have 46 chromosomes, including two sex chromosomes that determine biological sex. Males usually have one X and one Y chromosome, while females usually have two X chromosomes.
• Reproductive organs
  Males usually have testes and produce sperm, while females usually have ovaries and produce eggs.
• Other characteristics
  Biological males may have broader shoulders, increased body hair, an enlarged larynx (Adam's apple), and a deeper voice than a child or woman.

578+ Male* Victories in Female Sports: A Nine-Month Tally - Women's Sports Policy Working Group

Every day, male athletes who "identify" as women win contests designed for females. But sports are not based on identity, they're based on biology.

womenssportspolicy.org

I am awaiting retraction.

There's plenty of chromosome options that are not the classical male/female pairs.

So, you still haven't proven biological males are competing in women's sports.


My search engine is not broken, I've posted this link several times in this thread. Perhaps you have seen this link already.

...xxx

Any variation from these typical numbers is referred to scientifically as an “aneuploidy.” If there is one additional X or Y, it is known as a “trisomy” (“tri” denoting the number 3). Genetic conditions that reflect a trisomy include:

• 47,XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)
• 47,XXX (Trisomy X)
• 47,XYY

Trisomies are the most common X and Y aneuploid conditions. Less common are “tetrasomies,” which denote the presence of four sex chromosomes:

• 48,XXYY
• 48,XXXY
• 48,XXXX

Still rarer are the “pentasomies,” indicating five sex chromosomes:

• 49,XXXXY
• 49,XXXXX

Typically, 48- and 49-chromosome variations produce more pronounced symptoms than trisomies, although this is not always the case.

Variations - The Association for X and Y Chromosome Variations

About X and Y Variations X and Y Variations, also known medically as Sex Chromosome Aneuploidy (SCA), involve variations in the typical number and type of sex chromosomes. The typical number of chromosomes in each human cell is 46. These include 22 pairs of “autosomes” (which refers to

genetic.org

 

[Cope]

There's plenty of chromosome options that are not the classical male/female pairs.

So, you still haven't proven biological males are competing in women's sports.

So you bypassed the link I guess because it was there.

 

[EU MAGA]

900 medals have been one by men competing in women's sports.

There's plenty of chromosome options that are not the classical male/female pairs.

So, you still haven't proven biological males are competing in women's sports.


My search engine is not broken, I've posted this link several times in this thread. Perhaps you have seen this link already.

...xxx

Any variation from these typical numbers is referred to scientifically as an “aneuploidy.” If there is one additional X or Y, it is known as a “trisomy” (“tri” denoting the number 3). Genetic conditions that reflect a trisomy include:

• 47,XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)
• 47,XXX (Trisomy X)
• 47,XYY

Trisomies are the most common X and Y aneuploid conditions. Less common are “tetrasomies,” which denote the presence of four sex chromosomes:

• 48,XXYY
• 48,XXXY
• 48,XXXX

Still rarer are the “pentasomies,” indicating five sex chromosomes:

• 49,XXXXY
• 49,XXXXX

Typically, 48- and 49-chromosome variations produce more pronounced symptoms than trisomies, although this is not always the case.

Variations - The Association for X and Y Chromosome Variations

About X and Y Variations X and Y Variations, also known medically as Sex Chromosome Aneuploidy (SCA), involve variations in the typical number and type of sex chromosomes. The typical number of chromosomes in each human cell is 46. These include 22 pairs of “autosomes” (which refers to

genetic.org

 

[reinaert]

I dunno, ask Rudy or JD.

 

[dairyair]

So you bypassed the link I guess because it was there.

If it was there, you'd have pointed that part out in your post/response.

I saw nothing that showed any chromosome tests to show what pairs they have.
Or how much testosterone or estrogen they have. Or what their brain functions are in relation to sex body parts.
All those things make up the biology of a person.

The sports governing bodies are well aware of who/what they allow to compete in their respective sports.
They've had to make those determinations since the dawn of women's sports some 100 years ago.
They have plenty of experience in who is or is not qualified.

 

[dairyair]

900 medals have been one by men competing in women's sports.

Sport organizations in general don't allow men competing in women's sports. If a similar male sport is offered.

I don't believe you.
What is the definition of a woman?

Sports organizations have been dealing with that term since the dawn of women's sports some 100 yrs ago.