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What is different between REAL CHRISTIANITY & a CULT that thinks it's "Christian"?

Not in the least. Christ doesn't care what Church one attends (as long as HE is its foundation). Christ does care that one believes HE loves us very much and willingly died to save the lost. And that HE arose from the grave to provide eternal life to whosoever will receive HIM. Churches that say they are the way are NOT. Churches that reject GOD's Word are preaching a different gospel that CHRIST warned against.

Yes, "willingly died" and "rose from the grave"......something God cannot do, but His Son miraculously conceived in the womb of Mary did.....imagine that, God's Son, born a mortal human being to give his life for us. Wow, if that doesn't raise the hair on your neck, I don't know what will.
 
Yes, "willingly died" and "rose from the grave"......something God cannot do, but His Son miraculously conceived in the womb of Mary did.....imagine that, God's Son, born a mortal human being to give his life for us. Wow, if that doesn't raise the hair on your neck, I don't know what will.
How do you know what GOD can do? The SON was downloaded by the HOLY SPIRIT into MARY's womb to dwell among men nine months later.
 
How do you know what GOD can do? The SON was downloaded by the HOLY SPIRIT into MARY's womb to dwell among men nine months later.

Oh man, the things a trinitarian will say, lol.
 
How do you know what GOD can do?
The Bible tells us so...immortals cannot/do not die...

"Are you not from everlasting, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die. Habakkuk 1:12

Jesus was the 1st one described in the Bible as rewarded with the gift of immortality...the fact that he did not possess immortality before his resurrection by God is seen from the Paul's words...

Christ, now that he has been raised up from the dead, dies no more; death is master over him no more.” Romans 6:9
 
The young lady in the following video knows what it's about. And so, before defining CHRISTIANITY, I suggest you sincerely watch this video, and I believe that you will understand why I believe as I do:
The main thrust of this video concerns the Mormonism/LDS/CHURCH of CHRIST of the LATTER DAY SAINTS; however, the Witnesses are mentioned, as well as, a few others. They ultimately fall into the same deception ----- "WE GO TO THE "CORRECT" CHURCH. All the others are evil, wrong, apostate, and going to this specific "church" puts one on the "CORRECT" road to GOD."

Ah yes, the Mormons. I've been watching the baseball games between Reno and Salt Lake all week. The Bees have a new park.

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Kinda hard to see above the jumbotron, but it's called The Ballpark at America First Square. America First. Interesting. Are Mormons MAGA?
 
The Bible tells us so...immortals cannot/do not die...

"Are you not from everlasting, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die. Habakkuk 1:12

Jesus was the 1st one described in the Bible as rewarded with the gift of immortality...the fact that he did not possess immortality before his resurrection by God is seen from the Paul's words...

Christ, now that he has been raised up from the dead, dies no more; death is master over him no more.” Romans 6:9
CHRIST's human body went to the tomb. HIS SPIRIT HE commended to the FATHER while on the cross. CHRIST was not killed. ALL that occurred was CHRIST's will to do the will of HE FATHER. CHRIST was given a new body so that all believers would receive a new body.
 
Then I'd suggest the study the Bible. As forgiveness is as meaningful a part of true Christianity as any. It appears that hate, which has no place in Christianity is running rampant among those who don't like Trump.
Christianity is determined by how one feels about Donald Trump? Yes, this confirms all the reports.
 
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Christianity is a middle eastern religion.
Not really. The Old Testament can be considered Middle Eastern, but the New Testament was written for a Greek audience. Cultural Greeks living under Roman rule. About as Western as you can get.

Modern science arose as a backlash to, and in spite of, Christianity- not because of it.

The Greeks and Romans were well on their way to modern science and technology before Christianity came along and plunged everything into the dark ages for 1000 years. Modern science arose because people finally threw off the yoke of Christianity and started looking back again to classical pagan Greco-Roman art, philosophy, mathematics, systems of government, and science.
This is true, but the Council of Nicaea would be 300 years after the gospels were written and churches began forming. Society went from non-punishing pantheons of gods to an authoritarian mono-god who demands obedience. The Pope filled this role seamlessly.
 
Christianity is determined by how one feels about Donald Trump? Yes, this co9nfirms all the reports.
I feel Christians voted conservatively for the conservative party, and not a social party. Woke ideas, promotion of gay marriage, unrestrained immigration, healthcare permissive abortion demands, transgender pressure for appeasement regardless of parental permission, political/governmental graft --- all worked together to push the buttons of those seeking a fair deal for ordinary average American citizens who just want to be left alone..
 
I believe it's at least three people or more who gather together to converse about God.
 
I feel Christians voted conservatively for the conservative party, and not a social party. Woke ideas, promotion of gay marriage, unrestrained immigration, healthcare permissive abortion demands, transgender pressure for appeasement regardless of parental permission, political/governmental graft --- all worked together to push the buttons of those seeking a fair deal for ordinary average American citizens who just want to be left alone..
That's cool an' all, but the other poster said people who hate Donald Trump aren't Christian. Sounds like heresy to me. Very cultish. All the reports are true.
 
Not really. The Old Testament can be considered Middle Eastern, but the New Testament was written for a Greek audience. Cultural Greeks living under Roman rule. About as Western as you can get.
It arose of out of Judaism, a middle eastern religion- which in turn arose out of other ancient middle eastern religions like Zorastrianism and North African religions. There was no western influence on the thinking or teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as far as I am aware- maybe on his followers in the form of the tradition of Greco-Roman mystery cults which were so prevalent at the time.
This is true, but the Council of Nicaea would be 300 years after the gospels were written and churches began forming. Society went from non-punishing pantheons of gods to an authoritarian mono-god who demands obedience. The Pope filled this role seamlessly.
OK. But none of this has anything to do with the rise of modern science nor the industrial revolution in the west, as the poster I was responding to was claiming. That stuff really arose in spite of Christianity, not because of it- and owed more to pagan Greco-Roman culture and outlook than a Christian one. That outlook went into hibernation with the conversion of Constantine, for the thousand+ years of the interregnum of the dark ages. I suspect modern science and tech would have arisen much sooner if Christianity had not come into the picture.
 
CHRIST's human body went to the tomb. HIS SPIRIT HE commended to the FATHER while on the cross. CHRIST was not killed. ALL that occurred was CHRIST's will to do the will of HE FATHER. CHRIST was given a new body so that all believers would receive a new body.
If that were true he didn't die, which would make his sacrifice null and void...Peter states that Jesus died in the flesh but was resurrected in the spirit...


"He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit." 1 Peter 3:18
 
If that were true he didn't die, which would make his sacrifice null and void...Peter states that Jesus died in the flesh but was resurrected in the spirit...


"He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit." 1 Peter 3:18
Your Witnesses regard for humans only being mere bodies, gives you this wrong and confused perspective. ON the cross JESUS said, "FATHER, into thy hands do I commend MY SPIRIT." And CHRIST went to paradise to be with the repentant thief on the cross to release believers from their holding station.
 
I'd be curious to hear you expand on this.
Consider that China developed gunpowder technology but refused to advance scientific understanding of the world
 
That's cool an' all, but the other poster said people who hate Donald Trump aren't Christian. Sounds like heresy to me. Very cultish. All the reports are true.
I voted policy and not for a figurehead. I'm a CHRISTIAN and didn't seek after a personal agenda for personal gain, but for the sake of true and honest Liberty and not handouts. Are gay individuals "cultish"? Is the Public School Teacher's Convention "cultish"? Are the transgender "cultish"?
 
It arose of out of Judaism, a middle eastern religion- which in turn arose out of other ancient middle eastern religions like Zorastrianism and North African religions. There was no western influence on the thinking or teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as far as I am aware- maybe on his followers in the form of the tradition of Greco-Roman mystery cults which were so prevalent at the time.
True, but the NT authors lived in a world dominated by Greek thought. John's use of "logos" is a prime example.

OK. But none of this has anything to do with the rise of modern science nor the industrial revolution in the west, as the poster I was responding to was claiming. That stuff really arose in spite of Christianity, not because of it- and owed more to pagan Greco-Roman culture and outlook than a Christian one. That outlook went into hibernation with the conversion of Constantine, for the thousand+ years of the interregnum of the dark ages. I suspect modern science and tech would have arisen much sooner if Christianity had not come into the picture.
Arab Muslims studied advanced mathematics while Christian intellectuals pondered the mind of God while creating really amazing liqueurs.

The pushback from the Church at the dawn of the Enlightenment tells us what we need to know about the power structure of Christianity. While Jesus' message is one of voluntary kindness and community, Christian history is filled with authoritarian horror.

Ironically, early explorers took advantage of the latest navigational knowledge at their disposal. Their vessels and weapons clearly being results of technological advancement. All in the name of spreading Christ to heathen natives.

It's hard to say what role Christianity had in the Dark Ages. Socioeconomic conditions probably contributed most, regardless of the religion constructed by rulers.
 
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Christianity is a middle eastern religion.

Modern science arose as a backlash to, and in spite of, Christianity- not because of it.

The Greeks and Romans were well on their way to modern science and technology before Christianity came along and plunged everything into the dark ages for 1000 years. Modern science arose because people finally threw off the yoke of Christianity and started looking back again to classical pagan Greco-Roman art, philosophy, mathematics, systems of government, and science.
I cant even begin to express how wrong you are and I am honestly shocked that this idea is still circulating. Medieval monks created everything the modern world is constructed on and the Classical World ethics are so alien to us you would relish in the horror. Consider that there was not a single major abolitionist in the Classical period and that up to 1/3 of the population at the time was slaves. 2 million people died in the gladiatorial games over the time period of Rome. Aren't you happy that we have baseball and football instead of arabs being crushed by elephants in arenas? Romans practiced infanticide and the sodomizing of boys with no moral issue. And no, they were not close to modern science at all.

The central problem of British intellectual life that Tolkien tried to correct was the total admiration for the Classical World when, while good in some aspects, really needed to be destroyed by the 5th century. As much as I admire the founding fathers and their bravery, they got the Roman Republic totally wrong.
 
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I voted policy and not for a figurehead.
Nice!!!!

I'm talking about defining a Christian as someone who doesn't hate Trump. If you can't stay focused, then I have no clue what point you're trying to make.

Anything to say about that?

I'm a CHRISTIAN and didn't seek after a personal agenda for personal gain, but for the sake of true and honest Liberty and not handouts. Are gay individuals "cultish"? Is the Public School Teacher's Convention "cultish"? Are the transgender "cultish"?
What pray tell is this? More blabber? Did you see the new entertainment district in Salt Lake? Should Mormons be building entertainment districts using a MAGA slogan?

If you're not gonna address my points, then you have a good night.
 
The young lady in the following video knows what it's about. And so, before defining CHRISTIANITY, I suggest you sincerely watch this video, and I believe that you will understand why I believe as I do:
The main thrust of this video concerns the Mormonism/LDS/CHURCH of CHRIST of the LATTER DAY SAINTS; however, the Witnesses are mentioned, as well as, a few others. They ultimately fall into the same deception ----- "WE GO TO THE "CORRECT" CHURCH. All the others are evil, wrong, apostate, and going to this specific "church" puts one on the "CORRECT" road to GOD."

When Jesus comes back he can tell you who is being "real Christians". Until then, you guys are all taking shots at interpreting the words of others.
 
Then I'd suggest the study the Bible. As forgiveness is as meaningful a part of true Christianity as any. It appears that hate, which has no place in Christianity is running rampant among those who don't like Trump.
The New Testament
 
Consider that China developed gunpowder technology but refused to advance scientific understanding of the world

I'm not sure I'd agree they refused to advance scientific understanding. There's a point to be made about the schools of philosophy in the West being far more developed and sophisticated. I'd agree with that.

There's also a point at what you hint at - the progressive nature of Western civilization - and this describes why it was Europe that conquered the planet and not the isolationist East.
 
I'm not sure I'd agree they refused to advance scientific understanding. There's a point to be made about the schools of philosophy in the West being far more developed and sophisticated. I'd agree with that.

There's also a point at what you hint at - the progressive nature of Western civilization - and this describes why it was Europe that conquered the planet and not the isolationist East.
1)Christianity assumes an ordered world that can be understood--->Scientific endeavor is therefore noble.

2)Eastern religions claim that the world is inherently chaotic---->Attempts to understand it is therefore useless and even subversive

The same process happened in Islam where the Ash'arite school said that the world has no natural causalities and that all chaos is due to Allah--->Stopping of science after the Islamic Golden age
 
1)Christianity assumes an ordered world that can be understood--->Scientific endeavor is therefore noble.

Fair.

2)Eastern religions claim that the world is inherently chaotic---->Attempts to understand it is therefore useless and even subversive

There are certainly elements of this, especially in Buddhism.

The same process happened in Islam where the Ash'arite school said that the world has no natural causalities and that all chaos is due to Allah--->Stopping of science after the Islamic Golden age

Ottomans?
 
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