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What if Musk really is in charge?

Left wing posters were predicting that Musk and Trump would have had a falling out by now. You can scratch that off the list. Trump and Elon are laser beam focus on cutting out waste, fraud and corruption out of the goverment.
Actually I didn't set no time limit nor did I see anyone else set one. Drumpf is already bored with mini him, look at his face. Mini Musk is happy dancing around the playground, while Guampa is debating taking off when he isn't lookin.
 
Musk may crash and burn before the end of March.

 
Musk may be the one running the show, but he is a horrible father.

 
Musk may be the one running the show, but he is a horrible father.


The Master (Confucious) said, "See what a man does. Mark his motives. Examine in what things he rests. How can a man conceal his character? How can a man conceal his character?"
 
Knowledge is power, and by that measure, Musk is in charge. While Donald sits around signing papers that Stephen Miller puts in front of him, Musk is rapidly gathering massive amounts of intel on every aspect of government function, and placing people loyal to him (not Donald) in positions of power and control. The bottom line is that Musk is wealthier than Donald, smarter than Donald, healthier than Donald, more active than Donald, more shrewd than Donald, has more followers than Donald and the list goes on. In every metric that is meaningful to Trump, Elon Musk is his better.

That’s gotta grate.

Trump never was going to lead jackshit in his second term. He barely made it through his first term. Four years later he is four years deeper into his mental illnesses. Trump was inept in 2016. Now it is inept times 4. Chaos and confusion are all Trump is capable of.

More than half of the nation knew Trump would not be capable of carrying out the duties of office if he was reelected and yet, here we are. I don't know that any of us knew who was going to fill the void leadership void. We knew someone would. Musk gladly stepped up (as if he had not planned it all along).

To alter 2 sentences from Frank Zappa, "Was Donald Trump the lesser of two evils? Sometimes I wonder."

Musk has no business being where he is and doing what he is doing. Trump is unquestionably an American kompromat. But Trump gave Musk the keys to the castle and Musk is grabbing every secret and all the data he can on everyone including Donald Trump. He is likely Musk's kompormat now. That gives (or soon will give) Musk leverage with Putin.
 
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Musk thinks he's in charge.

Trump could fire Musk with two words.

We disagree on almost everything, but yeah, gotta agree with this. I think Trump delegated to Musk and Project 2025 the task of hollowing out the federal civil service. That doesn't mean Musk is running the show; it means Trump himself didn't have the energy or time to focus on it, so he did the CEO thing and delegated to Musk, who in turn, delegated to his technocrats.

I think Musk is pushing the limits of his power. He's in danger of breaking things that Trump and his allies in Congress didn't necessarily expect or want broken.
 
We disagree on almost everything, but yeah, gotta agree with this. I think Trump delegated to Musk and Project 2025 the task of hollowing out the federal civil service. That doesn't mean Musk is running the show; it means Trump himself didn't have the energy or time to focus on it, so he did the CEO thing and delegated to Musk, who in turn, delegated to his technocrats.

I think Musk is pushing the limits of his power. He's in danger of breaking things that Trump and his allies in Congress didn't necessarily expect or want broken.
Judging by the Oval Office Presser. I'd have to agree about the Drumpf's lack of energy.
 
Judging by the Oval Office Presser. I'd have to agree about the Drumpf's lack of energy.

He's a tired old man. I wouldn't be surprised if he croaked mid-term.
 
I really want to know what Elon has on Trump or if it's purely about money.

 
We disagree on almost everything, but yeah, gotta agree with this. I think Trump delegated to Musk and Project 2025 the task of hollowing out the federal civil service. That doesn't mean Musk is running the show; it means Trump himself didn't have the energy or time to focus on it, so he did the CEO thing and delegated to Musk, who in turn, delegated to his technocrats.

I think Musk is pushing the limits of his power. He's in danger of breaking things that Trump and his allies in Congress didn't necessarily expect or want broken.

Am going to revise this a bit. It occurred to me today, like a lightning bolt that struck me:

Elon Musk and Donald Trump are not really in competition with each other. They have similar values. They have similar beliefs and worldviews. Think of Musk as a 2025 version of a 1985 Donald Trump.

Trump wanted to hollow out the federal government to ensure that it can't turn against him when he's finally done with politics. Musk, who has been investigated by multiple entities, has a similar motive. Musk convinced Trump he had the financial muscle and technical know-how beyond anything he or anyone who he could bring into his fold could possess and deploy. So Trump simply delegated to Musk the power of blowing up the government.

It's been tempting to say, "Musk is unappointed, he's not part of the government." The reality, however, is quite different, and unlike what some have argued (including myself), Musk isn't necessarily competing with Trump. Maybe they compete for attention but that's it. Trump's personal advisers, OTOH? Yeah, they're upset. They've been displaced.
 
E-dolph ran from California like a lil girl when he found out his 16 year olds could spend his money like water!

Do E & D, who are 2 Billionaire's bully with intensions to do whatever they want to do?
What do I know about men with lots of money? I know →

They own the biggest motors on the fishing boats! most likely neither spent much time fishing for bass.

Did they need to spend time crawling around on their bellies begging for money / support / their dreams / future?

(Are their employees looking for better jobs?)
 
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But yeah, I think Musk really is in charge.

Thoughts?
This is kind of an interesting break-down that would support your thoughts: https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-musk-ceo-dictator-doge/

For some context: Peter Thiel was a heavy investor and early supporter for Trump's run for 2016, and he was also on the executive committee of Trump's transition team for his first term. Thiel co-founded PayPal with Elon Musk in the late-90s, and was the first investor into Musk's SpaceX. JD Vance worked for Thiel at one of his companies, Thiel became Vance's political mentor, and funded Vance's run for Congress. This explains Vance's flip-flop from openly hating Trump to being pro-Trump. Vance has also mentioned being influenced by Curtis Yarvin on a right-wing podcast, Yarvin spoke about texting Vance "some ideas" after the inauguration, and also had lunch with a senior member of Trump's administration during the week of the inauguration.
 
Musk likes to pretend he is in charge, but he knows he isn't and he hates that.
 
Is Musk living with Trump, or is he his handler or...well, at least Musk isn't wearing his kid helmet.

 
Musk and his script kiddies have been tearing through various departments of the government in their hunt for "waste, fraud, and abuse" (wink wink). Now DOGE has several of his recruits from his various companies, that have all benefitted from the federal government, embedded into various departments. In other words, these are not contractors, these are official government employees. And none of them have had background checks, just given blanket access by Trump from the beginning.

Musk has more power in this country than any other with exception of the president. He's the richest, and now he's entrenched himself into our executive branch.

How did that happen?

Is it because he really is in charge?

Think of how MAGA reacts when someone posts on Xitter about the "fraud" they've "found". And MAGA eats it up as some great revelation. How can anyone be that gullible?

That said, we see how quickly they've been tearing through departments, getting all of their data...don't you think he's also obtained all of Trump's data?

Not only did Elon buy the executive branch, he could really have the goods on Donald. Got him by his short and curlies.

Trump get's to go out and ride helicopters over race tracks and ride around in his big black car, get's all the TV time he wants, plays golf whenever he can, skips the foreign trips, etc. Maybe he gets to grift alot of money.

Elon gets the rest. He gets to run the government while Trump enjoys retirement living.

Of course JD is waiting in the wings for when Musk and Thiel no longer need the Donald. If Trump's popularity dives, they'll install JD. We all know how malleable he is, will make a great puppet.

But yeah, I think Musk really is in charge.

Thoughts?

What if democrats really aren't mentally retarded?

A supposition nearly as absurd as the one you posted....
 
Is Musk living with Trump, or is he his handler or...well, at least Musk isn't wearing his kid helmet.



the short version; Musk is a leader in the transition between maga and Dark Maga. after getting elected, the course was changed to Dark Maga and they have serious work to do.

Maga people by and large have no clue what Dark Maga is, so i have been helping them....



The Dark MAGA Gov-Corp Technate — Part 1​


What does the title of this article—not to mention each unusual word in it — even mean? This is not a rhetorical question. We urgently need to understand each term. A precise political philosophy underpins each. A combination of these interrelated philosophies has been embraced — either in part or in their entirety — by some of the most powerful people on the planet. If we misapprehend how these controllers and influencers think, we risk blindly accepting whatever world order they wish to impose — and end up wondering how and why we find ourselves subjected to it. https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/

eventually we will be living in a North American Technocracy, the above is a good primer on how this all works out. some basics are that Canada, Mexico, Greenland and Islands of North America will be under one government.

so Canada will be financially forced into the usa using tariffs and other means. the white house press secretary admitted to this recently....


Then press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters directly that if Canada wants to avoid tariffs in the future, it should become the fifty-first U.S. state. She revealed it: Trump’s tariffs aren’t about fentanyl or any supposed unfair treatment of the U.S. They’re about forcing Canada, with no justification whatsoever, to submit to his will. https://newrepublic.com/article/192391/trump-press-sec-accidentally-reveals-ugly-scam-behind-tariffs


blessings .

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Dark Maga, not a joke, that is what the Orange and Musk are rolling on.

musk was upfront about it, he has said he was 'Dark Maga' multiple times; he means it.


learn people.....






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Trump and his master return to Washington DC.

 
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