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What happens if states can’t regulate A.I.?

And if there is demand for laws regulating AI, those laws will stay. If not, they will disappear. The invisible hand is not restricted to only private enterprise.

The market responds to individual choices. The state responds to lobbyists and political incentives - not exactly an invisible hand. More like a visible hand holding a gun.
 
The market responds to individual choices. The state responds to lobbyists and political incentives - not exactly an invisible hand. More like a visible hand holding a gun.

Lobbyists are individuals.
 
Ellison gets his national panopticon.
 
They think art is just an idea in your head. That is wrong. Its a process and a journey.

That is how it was a couple centuries ago anyways.

Nowadays folks duck tape a banana to the wall and call it art. The decline of art started long before AI.

Honestly, creating art with AI prompts is an upgrade from the likes of Rauschenberg and Pollock.
 
That is how it was a couple centuries ago anyways.

Nowadays folks duck tape a banana to the wall and call it art. The decline of art started long before AI.

Honestly, creating art with AI prompts is an upgrade from the likes of Rauschenberg and Pollock.
ummm no…. No it wasnt. People actually put in effort and learned their craft. AI stole that to give just a facsimile. We need to respect artists more. I see all the AI youtube slop and its got child abuse imagery galore. Its shit.
 
People actually put in effort and learned their craft.

Most folks who use Midjourney put more time, thought, and effort into refining their prompts for a single piece than Rauschenberg or Pollock put into their entire careers.

Real artists like Rembrandt and Dalí deserve respect, but then again, they already command a lot of respect. Folks like Cattelan get more respect than they deserve.

Folks making beautiful, thought-provoking works with AI deserve much more respect than someone just slapping a banana on a wall with some duct tape and then selling it for $6 million.
 
Most folks who use Midjourney put more time, thought, and effort into refining their prompts for a single piece than Rauschenberg or Pollock put into their entire careers.

Real artists like Rembrandt and Dalí deserve respect, but then again, they already command a lot of respect. Folks like Cattelan get more respect than they deserve.

Folks making beautiful, thought-provoking works with AI deserve much more respect than someone just slapping a banana on a wall with some duct tape and then selling it for $6 million.
LOL. Omg this is so damn comical. You have no idea. Yeah the ****ers stealing from Hayao Miyazaki are putting in more effort in their AI slop. Pure clown show. I cant believe you are being serious. Thank **** none of those AI shit for brains can copyright their art.

The fact you are framing things this way tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.

I got dyspraxia but i couldnt even call an artwork created by an AI generator my own because it wasnt really created by me.
 
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LOL. Omg this is so damn comical. You have no idea. Yeah the ****ers stealing from Hayao Miyazaki are putting in more effort in their AI slop. Pure clown show. I cant believe you are being serious. Thank **** none of those AI shit for brains can copyright their art.

The fact you are framing things this way tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.

Good artists copy; great artists steal.” -Pablo Picasso

Most applications of AI art are not attempting to reproduce any copyrighted characters or IP, and folks can steal from Hayao Miyazaki just as much with a pencil and paper.

Plagiarizing someone else’s work is not limited to any particular medium.
 
Good artists copy; great artists steal.” -Pablo Picasso

Most applications of AI art are not attempting to reproduce any copyrighted characters or IP, and folks can steal from Hayao Miyazaki just as much with a pencil and paper.

Plagiarizing someone else’s work is not limited to any particular medium.
He didnt actually say that. I looked it up. Goes to show how little you know. Yes they are reproducing copyrighted work. Thats the ****ing problem. I swear AI folks are super selfish.

Now im dealing with AI art scammers trying to charge me more than 100 dollars for something they didnt really create.

Like i said you guys think art is just an idea in your head.
 
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He didnt actually say that. I looked it up. Goes to show how little you know. Yes they are reproducing copyrighted work. Thats the ****ing problem. I swear AI folks are super selfish.

Now im dealing with AI art scammers trying to charge me more than 100 dollars for something they didnt really create.

If they are attempting to sell copyrighted work, they can be sued for royalties and/or to cease and desist.

If they aren’t trying to sell it, then its just regular old fan art, which long predates AI.
 
If they are attempting to sell copyrighted work, they can be sued for royalties and/or to cease and desist.

If they aren’t trying to sell it, then its just regular old fan art, which long predates AI.
For now :/. Fan art has someone who tried. Even parodies takes actual talent to be good.

There were so many ways this could have been done without upsetting several artists. Nobody had to steal in order to train these models.
 
For now :/. Fan art has someone who tried. Even parodies takes actual talent to be good.

Seems like a bit of an about face, since you were just complaining about how all fan art is talentless slop because it is stealing someone else’s IP.

Maybe there can be some kind of crackdown on all those evil talentless little girls drawing Disney princesses in their sketchbooks instead of coming up with original characters.
 
Seems like a bit of an about face, since you were just complaining about how all fan art is talentless slop because it is stealing someone else’s IP.

Maybe there can be some kind of crackdown on all those evil talentless little girls drawing Disney princesses in their sketchbooks instead of coming up with original characters.
I never said fan art is slop lol…. They actually learned a skill. Its the difference between recognizing art as a process and thinking art is just an idea in your head that you need to automate. Thats what you constantly miss.

AI art is automation.

You prove with each post you havnt the slightest clue what the sam hell you are talking about.
 
I never said fan art is slop lol…. They actually learned a skill.

Unlike Jackson Pollock. Welcome to the point.

Your initial complaint about AI was that it didn’t require putting time and effort into the craft. But it requires more time and effort than the garbage Rauschenberg and Pollock produced.

Rather than addressing the fact that the craft of articulating visual art through language requires much more time, effort and thoughtfulness than just rolling some white paint on a canvas, or flinging paint around randomly like a toddler, you went for the angle that people were using AI to make fan art to defend your point about it being slop.

So yeah, you called fan art slop as a logical consequence of your argument.

The process and journey of finding the language to realize your vision using AI requires more skill, time, effort, and thoughtfulness than a lot of the refuse that folks have been putting in galleries and museums in modern times.
 
Unlike Jackson Pollock. Welcome to the point.

Your initial complaint about AI was that it didn’t require putting time and effort into the craft. But it requires more time and effort than the garbage Rauschenberg and Pollock produced.

Rather than addressing the fact that the craft of articulating visual art through language requires much more time, effort and thoughtfulness than just rolling some white paint on a canvas, or flinging paint around randomly like a toddler, you went for the angle that people were using AI to make fan art to defend your point about it being slop.

So yeah, you called fan art slop as a logical consequence of your argument.

The process and journey of finding the language to realize your vision using AI requires more skill, time, effort, and thoughtfulness than a lot of the refuse that folks have been putting in galleries and museums in modern times.
It doesnt take more time and effort than Miyazaki. You need to learn the difference between art being just an idea in your head to automate and art being a process. Wow you really dont understand art do you?

Like holy **** you cant be more wrong.
 
Nor than Rembrandt, as I’ve already said.

But more than Pollock.
Cool dont steal from artists and we will be peachy keen. AI steals from both Rembrandt and Pollock equally.

Your stupid description of art is rather insultingly ignorant. All you have to do is go on a cruise art auction to know thats definitely not true.

There was absolutely no reason these tech bros had to just take from people who actually put in the effort.
 
Apparently Rembrandt was the last person on earth to create great art. Who knew? Lol!
 
Nah. Dalí was greater still.
The argument you gave me indicates that you think every modern artist is slop.

Like it really didnt need to be this way. Theres a lot of legitimate ways to train AI models.
 
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