What Exactly Is A Socialist?

[cnredd]

Being a socialist is not a definitive answer, but a range...

The second the government gives one penny to someone who didn't earn it and simply got it because of a "program", then that's TECHNICALLY a socialist move...Even the most stringest of capitalists believe that's fair for certain instances...

It's when that range supercedes the capitalistic view of revenue through economy that this becomes a problem...economic justice and social justice (and wealth redistribution) are socialist ideologies...

In a way, we're all socialists, but ONLY to the technical term...Actual socialists apply to reality, whereas most Americans do not...

Analogy time!!...:2wave:

You have two baseball players...One of them hits an average of TWO home runs a year...The other hits an average of FOURTY-FIVE home runs a year...

Are they both "home run hitters"?...From a technical sense "yes"...Any person that has EVER hit a home run is...TECHNICALLY...a home run hitter...

But are they both "home run hitters" in the reality-applied and culturally accepted definition?...Not on your life...The second player is DEFINITELY a "home run hitter"...the first one is definitively NOT...

But at the VERY SAME TIME, the guy who averages forty-five home runs a year probably comes up to bat over 450 times a year...which mean the player...considered a perfect example of a "home run hitter"...acually hits home runs less than 10% of the times he's at bat...

...But because he does what he does so much more than the average, that is what makes him a "home run hitter"...

This why Obama is a socialist...he is the biggest home run hitter in terms of economic justice, social justice, and wealth redistribution this country has ever seen...

He doesn't have to be 100%...he just needs to be so much higher than the average American...

His defenders attempt to force the TECHNICAL TERM of being a socialist (100%) on the public and says this proves Obama's not a socialist, but they don't understand that the reality-applied and culturally accepted definition of socialism is the standard (just like asking what defines a "home run hitter"...No absolutes...Just a range)...

No president has ever been 100% non-socialist...If there was, we'd have ZERO programs...As much as Conservative haters want to scream that this is what Republicans want, any reasonable person knows this is a lie...

Conservatives are the "two-home-runs-per-year" players...TECHNICALLY socialist, but, obviously, no where near the average...

Liberals (and Obama as the kingpin) constantly look towards MORE programs...The "forty-five-home-runs-per-year" that they do socialistic isn't even good ENOUGH for their own liking...They won't be happy until they average two-hundred...

Coincidentally, this is also why hardcore socialists get pissed at Obama...Their vision is that he has to hit a home run EVERY SINGLE TIME he's at bat, and anything less means that he's not a true home run hitter (That logic would have Babe Ruth hitting 8,399 home runs...the number of times he came up to the plate)...

So "What exactly is a socialist?" comes with an arbitrary answer...But make no mistake...when it comes to socialism, Obama is a helluva lot closer to Barry Bonds, Hank Aaron, and Babe Ruth than he is to Ozzie Smith and Ichiro Suzuki...

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Being a socialist is not a definitive answer, but a range...

The second the government gives one penny to someone who didn't earn it and simply got it because of a "program", then that's TECHNICALLY a socialist move...Even the most stringest of capitalists believe that's fair for certain instances...

It's when that range supercedes the capitalistic view of revenue through economy that this becomes a problem...economic justice and social justice (and wealth redistribution) are socialist ideologies...

In a way, we're all socialists, but ONLY to the technical term...Actual socialists apply to reality, whereas most Americans do not...

Analogy time!!...:2wave:

You have two baseball players...One of them hits an average of TWO home runs a year...The other hits an average of FOURTY-FIVE home runs a year...

Are they both "home run hitters"?...From a technical sense "yes"...Any person that has EVER hit a home run is...TECHNICALLY...a home run hitter...

But are they both "home run hitters" in the reality-applied and culturally accepted definition?...Not on your life...The second player is DEFINITELY a "home run hitter"...the first one is definitively NOT...

But at the VERY SAME TIME, the guy who averages forty-five home runs a year probably comes up to bat over 450 times a year...which mean the player...considered a perfect example of a "home run hitter"...acually hits home runs less than 10% of the times he's at bat...

...But because he does what he does so much more than the average, that is what makes him a "home run hitter"...

This why Obama is a socialist...he is the biggest home run hitter in terms of economic justice, social justice, and wealth redistribution this country has ever seen...

He doesn't have to be 100%...he just needs to be so much higher than the average American...

His defenders attempt to force the TECHNICAL TERM of being a socialist (100%) on the public and says this proves Obama's not a socialist, but they don't understand that the reality-applied and culturally accepted definition of socialism is the standard (just like asking what defines a "home run hitter"...No absolutes...Just a range)...

No president has ever been 100% non-socialist...If there was, we'd have ZERO programs...As much as Conservative haters want to scream that this is what Republicans want, any reasonable person knows this is a lie...

Conservatives are the "two-home-runs-per-year" players...TECHNICALLY socialist, but, obviously, no where near the average...

Liberals (and Obama as the kingpin) constantly look towards MORE programs...The "forty-five-home-runs-per-year" that they do socialistic isn't even good ENOUGH for their own liking...They won't be happy until they average two-hundred...

Coincidentally, this is also why hardcore socialists get pissed at Obama...Their vision is that he has to hit a home run EVERY SINGLE TIME he's at bat, and anything less means that he's not a true home run hitter (That logic would have Babe Ruth hitting 8,399 home runs...the number of times he came up to the plate)...

So "What exactly is a socialist?" comes with an arbitrary answer...But make no mistake...when it comes to socialism, Obama is a helluva lot closer to Barry Bonds, Hank Aaron, and Babe Ruth than he is to Ozzie Smith and Ichiro Suzuki...

Obama is the biggest to social and economic justice? Really? Noooo i would disagree by a freaking long shot.

Ill tell you what socialism is.. Socialists believe the economy and society should be run democratically to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. We believe that social and economic decisions should be made by those whom they most affect AKA social ownership. Social ownership can take many forms such as worker-owned cooperatives or publicly owned enterprises managed by workers and consumer representatives.
Socialism in a nutshell is democracy, and work environments are controlled by the workers. Yes socialism does favor redistribution of wealth and a progressive system of taxation but just because you have those two things does not make you a socialist...

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Hey Redd!!!

Glad to see ya, old timer.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Being a socialist is not a definitive answer, but a range...
The second the government gives one penny to someone who didn't earn it and simply got it because of a "program", then that's TECHNICALLY a socialist move

You do realize that this is a novel definition of socialism, don't you?

 

[cnredd]

Hey Redd!!!

Glad to see ya, old timer.

Howdy stranger...

Just letting to you know I'm still alive and kickin'...:2wave:

(That and I felt I needed to share this post with many people)...

 

[imagep]

To the far right, apparently I am a socialist, even though I believe that we should get rid of allmost all forms of welfare and subsidies and cut the heck out of the size of government.

Of course to the far left, I am apparently a conservative, even though I believe in the death tax and a progressive tax system and despite the fact that I am constantly harping on wealth disparity.

 

[StillBallin75]

An America-hater.

 

[StillBallin75]

To the far right, apparently I am a socialist, even though I believe that we should get rid of allmost all forms of welfare and subsidies and cut the heck out of the size of government.

Of course to the far left, I am apparently a conservative, even though I believe in the death tax and a progressive tax system and despite the fact that I am constantly harping on wealth disparity.

I gots your back imagep, i don't think you're all that much of a conservative if I may say so.

 

[imagep]

I gots your back imagep, i don't think you're all that much of a conservative if I may say so.

I believe I am a radical independant. Thats when BOTH sides hate you.

Being hated is actually within my comfort zone, I don't feel comfortable when people agree with me, I figure most people are idiots and if they are agreeing with me, then I must be wrong.

 

[shintao]

Being a socialist is not a definitive answer, but a range...
So "What exactly is a socialist?" comes with an arbitrary answer...But make no mistake...when it comes to socialism, Obama is a helluva lot closer to Barry Bonds, Hank Aaron, and Babe Ruth than he is to Ozzie Smith and Ichiro Suzuki...

Anyone who hangs on the capitalist mantel is not a socialist. With Trillions doled out to wall street, banks & GM, I must administer the socialist litmus test.

How much did Obama give you to stimulate the economy?:roll: