What does Trump deserve for his behaviour on January 6, 2021?

[DCCougar]

Nickyjo said: You must have missed his months of saying the election would be fixed if he lost....

All of that is called free speech....

No, that's called intent.

 

[Ambig]

Dude, regardless of one's reason, one can hardly commit a more serious act of terrorism than literally murdering the President of the United States.

You can sure commit a more serious act of destroying American democracy itself, though.

Like a POTUS proclaiming fraud with no evidence, refusing to concede, and preaching to his base that elections can't be trusted (but only when he loses).

Sending a mob to invade the Capitol in an effort to keep himself in the White House is also way more dangerous for democracy than merely assassinating a POTUS.

 

[Ambig]

They even spread falsehoods about Russian collusion

Why do you keep saying that when Pub senators issued a formal report saying otherwise?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Why do you keep saying that when Pub senators issued a formal report saying otherwise?

You have a link?

 

[VanceMack]

What do THESE democrats that called for violence deserve?

 

[tres borrachos]

And why a short one only?

Because they won't get him on treason, which should come with a life sentence. He should get the same jail sentences that the assholes who worship him got as a result of 1/6.

 

[AGENT J]

No he did not "lie" about the results. He made good faith belief statements about an election that had so many drastic last minute changes in the processes around the nation based on "covid" that even I think the mass-mail voting process was tainted from the start.

and this a prime example of a tinfoil hat nutter post that is one of many things wrong with the country.
nobody honest, educated, objective who has any integrity could ever take statements like that seriously
they have no rational merit LMAO

 

[Ambig]

You have a link?

https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-n...cs-campaigns-5e833a62e9492f6a66624b7920cc846a

Once you've read it, you'll stop claiming that there was no collusion between the Trump Campaign and the Russians... I hope?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

We have a system of democracy in this country. One has to accept a political loss, or we become a third world disaster. If Trump is so deserving of being in the oval office, then you be sure and make him the nominee in 24 and see what the hell happens.

That is most emphatically not true. For example homosexual “marriage” licenses were electorally defeated in all but one state then Herr Kennedy issued un Democratic diktat

 

[Ambig]

That is most emphatically not true. For example homosexual “marriage” licenses were electorally defeated in all but one state then Herr Kennedy issued un Democratic diktat

So you oppose homosexual marriage? Can you say why?

 

[AGENT J]

That is most emphatically not true. For example homosexual “marriage” licenses were electorally defeated in all but one state then Herr Kennedy issued un Democratic diktat

Nothing you just posted changes the fact we have "a" We have a system of democracy in this country . . . . nothing
why make so many dishonest factually wrong posts?
what does it do besides get your posts mocked?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

So you oppose homosexual marriage? Can you say why?

That is irrelevant to the post I made. This is merely an easy proof that America is not a democratic nation in any form. It shouldn’t matter why the people oppose such a thing, if they vote against it then that should be respected if we are in a democracy. If the elite Just imposes it on them against their will, we are not in a democracy.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Nothing you just posted changes the fact we have "a" We have a system of democracy in this country . . . . nothing
why make so many dishonest factually wrong posts?
what does it do besides get your posts mocked?

No, it conclusively proves that we are not under a democratic system in any real form.

 

[AGENT J]

That is irrelevant to the post I made. This is merely an easy proof that America is not a democratic nation in any form.

LMAO
no its not and your claim is still 100% false ESPECIALLY since your claim stupidly says "in any form"

It shouldn’t matter why the people oppose such a thing, if they vote against it then that should be respected if we are in a democracy. If the elite Just imposes it on them against their will, we are not in a democracy.

nobody said we are in a 100% democracy hence why you post looks so stupid and dishonest

 

[AGENT J]

No, it conclusively proves that we are not under a democratic system in any real form.

no it factually doesn't it just makes your post look like the dishonest ignorance it is

the statement was this : "We have "a" system of democracy in this country. "

that statement is 100% true
nothing you posted changes that fact and when you double down on your false claim and say "in any form" . . . .wow .. its just makes your claim look even more topically uneducated

 

[Geoist]

What does Trump deserve for his behaviour on January 6, 2021?

He deserves what they gave Charles Manson: life in prison. I guess we could just call it 15 years. His fast food-absorbing ass isn't long for this world.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

LMAO
no its not and your claim is still 100% false ESPECIALLY since your claim stupidly says "in any form"


nobody said we are in a 100% democracy hence why you post looks so stupid and dishonest

Look, if you reject democracy as a governing system that is fine, just don’t act with moral outrage then over a supposed democratic ideal. Because it is fake because you don’t believe in it.

 

[Big Brother]

What do THESE democrats that called for violence deserve?

Come on, that's so easy. When democrats advocate for violence, it's to save Democracy. when republicans do it, it's to destroy Democracy. Duh.

 

[AGENT J]

Look, if you reject democracy as a governing system that is fine, just don’t act with moral outrage then over a supposed democratic ideal. Because it is fake because you don’t believe in it.

once again nothing you babbled about above changes the fact your statements are wrong and the statement you tried, and failed to correct and call out, remains 100% true

now you can
1.) make a post based on honesty and integrity and admit that fact
or
2.) runaway, deny it, dodge and or deflect from it continuing to make your posts look even more stupid.

lets see what you do . . . my guess is you'll choose 2

 

[VanceMack]

So you oppose homosexual marriage? Can you say why?

Unnatural to the laws of science and nature, slippery slope to the promotion of the trans movement, the destruction of gender identity of children, the introduction of a pedo-grooming leftist agenda...all which has occurred since the court mandated (voter overturned) gay marriage dictate.

And I want to be very clear here...that is NOT to say that the average citizen...homosexual or otherwise...that supports gay marriage is responsible for the slippery slope to the promotion of the trans movement, the destruction of gender identity of children, the introduction of a pedo-grooming leftist agenda...all which has occurred since the court mandated (voter overturned) gay marriage dictate, but rather that the democrat party and affiliated Marxist organizations hell bent on destroying children and families are responsible for using the gay marriage dictate as a slippery slope to the promotion of the trans movement, the destruction of gender identity of children, the introduction of a pedo-grooming leftist agenda...all which has occurred since the court mandated (voter overturned) gay marriage dictate.

We would be better served if the courts and government were not at ALL involved with marriage...that marriage remain an institution of religious activity, and that the government should only be responsible for civil unions of all...regardless of sexual orientation.

 

[AGENT J]

Unnatural to the laws of science and nature, slippery slope to the promotion of the trans movement, the destruction of gender identity of children, the introduction of a pedo-grooming leftist agenda...all which has occurred since the court mandated (voter overturned) gay marriage dictate.

And I want to be very clear here...that is NOT to say that the average citizen...homosexual or otherwise...that supports gay marriage is responsible for the slippery slope to the promotion of the trans movement, the destruction of gender identity of children, the introduction of a pedo-grooming leftist agenda...all which has occurred since the court mandated (voter overturned) gay marriage dictate, but rather that the democrat party and affiliated Marxist organizations hell bent on destroying children and families are responsible for using the gay marriage dictate as a slippery slope to the promotion of the trans movement, the destruction of gender identity of children, the introduction of a pedo-grooming leftist agenda...all which has occurred since the court mandated (voter overturned) gay marriage dictate.

We would be better served if the courts and government were not at ALL involved with marriage...that marriage remain an institution of religious activity, and that the government should only be responsible for civil unions of all...regardless of sexual orientation.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it would have been more honest to just say hate, ignorance and bigotry

 

[Nickyjo]

No he was sitting in his dining room watching the Insurrection on TeeVee.

All of that is called free speech, like when Democrats said the 2016 election was stolen, that the people needed to fight for their rights, and that there should be unrest in the streets, etc.

If what you say is true, then anytime someone encourages a rally, if something untoward breaks out, then they are responsible. It's not a good road to go down.

The Democrats questioned Russian actions in 2016, but Hillary conceded almost immediately. Trump still hasn’t conceded. Hillary did not address a mob she knew had weapons and tell them to march on the Capitol.

 

[Big Brother]

I think it is important to somehow connect J6 to DeSantis as well. I'm sure we can dig up something if we look hard enough. As things are looking now, he is going to be a major player in the RNC and will likely get the 2024 nomination, especially if we succeed in keeping Trump off the ballot. It is now necessary to nip this bud early and get DeSantis off any future tickets before he could potentially become POTUS. So, it is so obvious that DeSantis planned the J6 election in collusion with Trump and may even be the mastermid behind it, as Trump is obviously not smart enough to plan an insurrection by himself. They should both be locked up without a trial and even carted off to Guantanamo Bay for "interrogation." Let's get this ball rolling!

 

[jpevans]

Even if it hurts someone, most of the time. Hurting feelings, upsetting people, offending people, etc., are all free speech. What isn't free speech are things like fraud where the crime isn't the speech/lie, but the obtaining of money or other thing of value, and similarly, defamation, there has to not only be a false statement but one that causes injury to a person's reputation, etc. - provable injury - not just a false statement that upsets someone.

Sure, but saying the 2016 election was stolen, while a lie, ought not have legal consequences, right?

So? BLM riots were the consequences of big lies about how often black people are subjected to police violence. So?

Both democrats and republicans, almost to a candidate, urge their supporters to fight like hell to save the country they love. That's not illegal.

There is nothing illegal about disputing the results of an election, even if the evidence isn't in, yet, or even if one is in the minority view of what happened. That's why it's just fine for Democrats to claim the 2016 election was stolen. They even spread falsehoods about Russian collusion - which are completely evidence-free - and there aren't and ought not be legal consequences for doing so.

Sure, but incitement means that a person literally calls for violence. Incitement is not "saying inflammatory things and having people go do something stupid as a result." If your preferred definition applies, then anyone supporting BLM and Antifa demonstrations is inciting the violence that occurs sometimes among those demonstrations.

Of course it's not easy to prove, nor should it be. You don't even have evidence of a "plot" much less a role Trump played in it. All you have is a bunch of people rallying their base, and then a demonstration getting out of hand as potential FBI informants egged them on to enter the capitol building.

This is the purpose of the J6 Committee to tie all those variables together. Your spin seems to be to make all aspects of the insurrection into individual random events where there is only coincidencadental relationship. A deeper dive shows, IMO, a series of connected events, to steal the election from the duly elected president, by force.

 

[Integrityrespec]

What does Trump deserve for his behaviour on January 6, 2021?

In case you forgot:

The January 6th Report - Celadon Books

Celadon Books and The New Yorker present the report by the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol. The book will feature the full text of the report, as well as an introduction by David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker and winner of the Pulitzer Prize.

celadonbooks.com

If you don't like him, don't vote for him. That's what I do to candidates I don't care for. Keep them out of office with democracy. Oh, yeah democrats don't trust the vote they like to stack the deck with stories, like Trump Russia Collusion.