Trajan Octavian Titus said:You, name one country that has done more good to help the world than the U.S.?
You, and half the people on this sight who spout off Al-Jazeera talking points on a daily basis.
You, I have not heard an original thought come out of your fingertips since the begining of this discussion.
You, who denies the widely accepted fact that Saddam perpetrated genocide and crimes against humanity on his own citizentry negating his right to soveriegnty and giving the U.S. the right under international law to use force to remove him from power.
You and others on this sight, who even now as we speak attempt to revise history right in front of my very eyes in that you are calling this an illegal war allthough the U.N. passed a resolution threatening serious consequences against Saddam if he did not abide by the parameters of the dozen odd previous resolutions which he failed to do, and denying the fact that the President was granted expressed permission by congress for the use of force against Iraq.
Tetracide said:Support the troops means not to parade the death count, respect the work they are doing as people doing it, regardless of if you think they should be doing it or not.
Supporting the troops means not calling them murdered, savages, or portray them as such.
Supporting the troops is hoping they are safe and will finish what they have gotten into so they return safely home, not hopeing we fail just so you get bragging rights.
This isn't directed at any one person.
GeorgeDumbyaBush said:To those of you who think going to war in the name of liberty is a good thing. First of all, The law of God is above the law of man.
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May God have mercy on the world. For she knows not what she has done!
Iriemon said:And what has America done that is any worse than just about every other nation on the planet (that had the capability) has done? I assure you I can recount numerous examples of nations that have done much worse with their power.
GeorgeDumbyaBush said:To those of you who think going to war in the name of liberty is a good thing. First of all, The law of God is above the law of man. It is not right to impose warfare or justice to anyone no matter how bad their deeds may be....
What are you talking about? Were doing the same thing to them at Abu Grhaib. One Iraqi (who still had his sense of humor after he was released) commented on being tortured, "The US was able to bring electricity to my ass, before they brought it to my block!"Originally Posted by Pub31321:
Do you have any idea at all how Hussein murdered and tortured thousands of innocent people? All of this is steps in creating a peaceful nation. Ill agree a lot of people are dying because of this war, but that is innevitable. Creating a peaceful nation of democracy has its costs. And unfortunately these peoples lives are the cost for future generations to live out their lives without fear of having electro-shock utensils hooked up to their balls and getting the **** shocked out of them
Billo_Really said:What are you talking about? Were doing the same thing to them at Abu Grhaib. One Iraqi (who still had his sense of humor after he was released) commented on being tortured, "The US was able to bring electricity to my ass, before they brought it to my block!"
What makes you think these are "my lies", T.O.T.?Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus:
Billo Billo Billo you didn't think that your bold faced lies would get passed me did you? We haven't done anything that could even be remotely compared to the torture of Iraqi citizens under the Saddam controled Baa'thist regime the first ones torture and the second ones mass graves:
Australianlibertarian said:I am not even going to call the supporters of the Iraq war neo-conservatives, because even so called liberals like John Kerry voted for the war.!
Iriemon said:Kerry never voted for the war. That is a spin myth.
Kerry (and the rest of the Senate) voted to give Bush authority to use military force if he deemed it was warranted in dealing with Iraq.
In hindsight, I agree that was a mistake as well. But that is different than voting for the war suggesting that Kerry voted in favor of going to war with Iraq.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:Billo Billo Billo you didn't think that your bold faced lies would get passed me did you? We haven't done anything that could even be remotely compared to the torture of Iraqi citizens under the Saddam controled Baa'thist regime the first ones torture and the second ones mass graves:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-04-13-saddam-secrets-usat_x.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/13/iraq.graves/
Canuck said:ummmn ....!
you mean the Saddam regime ,backed by America , helped to power by America ,and armed by America dont you !In other words, America's puppet state ,the Sadam regime.
I thought that was what you meant !
you know the Sadame regime that did all the atrocities while America watched and sent more amunition and weapons to continue the atrocities
the one and only american puppet state called sadam's regime
YOu can not talk about any place in the world without unrolling AMERICA's dirty little secrets out
unless you are American and wear the liberty blinders
support the troops really means bring them home
It sure doesn't mean keep them there now does it
Trajan Octavian Titus said:The Soviets backed Iran so we backed Iraq it was the cold war and we won so I will not apologize. The cold war made for strange bed fellows indeed. But perhaps you wanted the evil empire of the U.S.S.R. to win?
Comrade Brian said:The USSR was about as evil as the US in the Cold War.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:The Soviets backed Iran so we backed Iraq it was the cold war and we won so I will not apologize. The only time we backed Saddam was when he had shared interests with us, we didn't put him in power but we had a mutual enemy; Iran, ever here the old adage; the enemy of my enemy is my friend? The cold war made for strange bed fellows indeed. But perhaps you wanted the evil empire of the U.S.S.R. to win?
YES comrade it is I the libertarianComrade Brian said:So you're back canuck.
Canuck said:no your forgeting the iran contra arms deals
that sent munitions ans weapons to iran and money for drugs to make even more money for bush SR
while he was head of CIA under reagan
America armed both sides and was very willing to let both countries to fight it out
and commit atrocities and they still backed them
anyone claiming America has a vested interest in freedom in IRAq is a moron
they never did and still dont
and vietnam did AMerica not kill 100's of thousands there and iraq too over 100k dead civilians
Canuck said:YES comrade it is I the libertarian
thats right how astute of you to come cleanTrajan Octavian Titus said:If you're a libertarian then I'm a communist.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:lmfao we sold weapons to Iran to fund the contras to fight the communist Sadanistas in Nicaragua another intricate part in the fight to stop the spread of communism so again I will not apologize.
Your conspiratorial rhetoric trys to oversimplify the geo-political landscape because you cannot understand the intricacies of the modern political arena, or in other words you're to ****ing stupid to get this stuff.
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