Progressive86
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people should just vote for what they believe if they did there would not be 2 major parties but lots more parties.
With a plurality voting system, that is whoever gets the most votes wins 100% of the office, a two-party system naturally emerges. This is called Duverger's Law and this happens to prevent spoilers. Basically, the reason why the Democrats take on Green Party issues and why the Republicans take on Libertarian Party issues is so that the Greens and Libertarians won't split the ticket and cause the other major party to win.
That's why we need a different voting system than the one we do now. Change the voting system and you change the party system.
I don't think we need a third party, with our current laws and the way congress is set up, having a third party wouldn't prevent anything from being done. A third party would only hurt the other two depending on what their stances were. What kind of ideology do you think this party should be?
With a plurality voting system, that is whoever gets the most votes wins 100% of the office, a two-party system naturally emerges. This is called Duverger's Law and this happens to prevent spoilers. Basically, the reason why the Democrats take on Green Party issues and why the Republicans take on Libertarian Party issues is so that the Greens and Libertarians won't split the ticket and cause the other major party to win.
I think its individual people who need to change.For example people who voted for nader in 2000 where made to feel as though they had elected bush when then actually just voted for someone closer to their ideals.Same with Ross Perot.I do realise the system has been manipulated to stop another Perot but thats why the people need to refuse the mandate that is giving to the 2 major parties.
I don't think we need a third party, with our current laws and the way congress is set up, having a third party wouldn't prevent anything from being done. A third party would only hurt the other two depending on what their stances were. What kind of ideology do you think this party should be?
I don't think we need a third party, with our current laws and the way congress is set up, having a third party wouldn't prevent anything from being done. A third party would only hurt the other two depending on what their stances were. What kind of ideology do you think this party should be?
There really is no reason for only two political parties in the US rather then three.
Other then the fact Americans dont like losing.
If I were to root for a third party, they had better be equally conservative and liberal. A more middle of the road party would be the best third option in my mind.
If I were to root for a third party, they had better be equally conservative and liberal. A more middle of the road party would be the best third option in my mind.
I think we do need a strong Third Party because it's something that'll keep the two major parties we have now honest.
I dunno about "middle ground, but if you are interested in MY opinion...Interesting,..
So, what's the 'middle ground' on the following?
1: Elective Abortion
Support and oppose, depending on the specific situation.
2: Gays in the Military
Support.
3: Women in frontline combat
Support, given they meet standards for such a position.
4: Gay Marriage
Tend towards opposition, but not sure as to my reason for such.
5: Illegal Immigration
It's illegal, so I oppose it.
6: Drug legalization
Support in some ways, oppose in others.
7: Public Displays of Religion
Perfectly acceptable. Free speech? Or did you mean public-owned property with displays/government displays?
8: School Vouchers
Tend towards support.
9: National Health Care
Tend towards opposition.
10: Stem cell Research
More nuanced than that, really. I tend towards opposition to embryonic stem cell research, but all other stem cell research seems reasonable.
11: The right to keep and bear arms
Strongly support. I want my own personal tank, if I can afford it...:mrgreen:
12: Preemptive Military tactics
Depends on the situation. In some few, I support.
13: Nuclear Energy
Seems better than some other methods, except for the very dangerous waste...
14: Foreign trade
What, someone thinks stopping trade with other countries is a good idea? :shock: Or did you mean the level of restrictions on it...
15: Securing the borders
Needs to be done.
16: Space Exploration
Support, probably my sci-fi fan side showing...
17: Man Caused Climate Change
Do not consider a proven theory as of this moment.
18: Campaign Finance laws
Need redone.
19: Imminent Domain laws
Also need redone.
20: Waterboarding
Both support and oppose.
21: Constitutional rights for non American captured combatants
Not sure of the law on this one, but I would assume some treaty applies.
22: State Sovereignty
Is being infringed upon.
23: Tort Reform
Seems to be necessary.
24: Social Security Reform
Needs done.
25: Medicare and Medicaid reform
Also needs done.
(Sorry for such a short list)
I don't think we need a third party, with our current laws and the way congress is set up, having a third party wouldn't prevent anything from being done. A third party would only hurt the other two depending on what their stances were. What kind of ideology do you think this party should be?
Interesting,..
So, what's the 'middle ground' on the following?
1: Elective Abortion
2: Gays in the Military
3: Women in frontline combat
4: Gay Marriage - Taking religion out of the question
5: Illegal Imigration
6: Drug legalization
7: Public Displays of Religion
8: School Vouchers
9: National Health Care
10: Stem cell Research
11: The right to keep and bear arms
12: Premptive Military tactics
13: Nuclear Energy
14: Foreign trade
15: Securing the borders
16: Space Exploration
17: Man Caused Climate Change
18: Campaign Finance laws
19: Imminent Domain laws
20: Waterboarding
21: Constitutional rights for non American captured combatants
22: State Soveregnity
23: Tort Reform
24: Social Security Reform
25: Medicare and Medicaide reform
(Sorry for such a short list)
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