What do you believe to be true, or not true

[SNOWFLAKE]

his thread is NOT about Biden, or Trump, or the Left or the Right. Evaluate the following statements on their own merit. Do you agree or disagree with the statements made, and please state why. If you want you can even rate each statement from 1 to 10, 10 being the most truthful in YOUR opinion.

1. We are all born the same

2. Our development is dictated by our environment

3. Everyone has their own version of what is "right"

4. Most people couldn't care less

5. As a species, we are improving

6. We believe what we "want" to believe

7. We can't change other people, we can only change ourselves

8. Humans tend to live in "tribes" excluding those not in their tribe

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses

10. Most humans regret the choices they made when the end arrives

I posted this in philosophy because it is YOUR philosophy that likely will dictate which statements you argee with or not agree with.

And yes, I realize, each statement needs more "nuance", but that is where YOU come in, to provide the nuance that reflects your answers. Enjoy.

 

[Loulit01]

#9 for sure. I don't think the rest can be true phrased as blanket statements.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

#9 for sure. I don't think the rest can be true phrased as blanket statements.

So you DON'T believe everyone has their own version of what is "right?"

 

[Slartibartfast]

All are partially true and may be true in some situations but not in others.

#1 is fairly rare though and only is true for identical twins.

 

[NatMorton]

his thread is NOT about Biden, or Trump, or the Left or the Right. Evaluate the following statements on their own merit. Do you agree or disagree with the statements made, and please state why. If you want you can even rate each statement from 1 to 10, 10 being the most truthful in YOUR opinion.

1. We are all born the same

No.

2. Our development is dictated by our environment

Partially, yes. Not completely and possibly not even a majority influence.

3. Everyone has their own version of what is "right"

No.

4. Most people couldn't care less

No.

5. As a species, we are improving

Probably no longer. Our environment changes so quickly I suspect our evolution is somewhat directionless.

6. We believe what we "want" to believe

As a blanked statement, no, but what we want is a major influence on what we believe.

7. We can't change other people, we can only change ourselves

Largely true.

8. Humans tend to live in "tribes" excluding those not in their tribe

Very true.

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses

It’s that and more.

10. Most humans regret the choices they made when the end arrives

I’ll let you know

I posted this in philosophy because it is YOUR philosophy that likely will dictate which statements you argee with or not agree with.

And yes, I realize, each statement needs more "nuance", but that is where YOU come in, to provide the nuance that reflects your answers. Enjoy.

 

[Sweden]

True or truish: 3, 6, 8, 9.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

All are partially true and may be true in some situations but not in others.

#1 is fairly rare though and only is true for identical twins.

Depends if you take the question to mean "physically."

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

No.


Partially, yes. Not completely and possibly not even a majority influence.


No.


No.


Probably no longer. Our environment changes so quickly I suspect our evolution is somewhat directionless.


As a blanked statement, no, but what we want is a major influence on what we believe.


Largely true.


Very true.


It’s that and more.


I’ll let you know

WOW, you surprised me, you actually answered the questions, though in a few cases, you didn't state why you answered the way you did.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

True or truish: 3, 6, 8, 9.

Our development is NOT dictated by environment? Consider, how your development would be different if you grew up in poverty as opposed to riches, or were born in North Korea as opposed to the U.S.

 

[DrewPaul]

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses

#9 for sure. I don't think the rest can be true phrased as blanket statements.

I think opium, drugs, alcohol and pornography of the opiate of the people.

 

[vegas giants]

his thread is NOT about Biden, or Trump, or the Left or the Right. Evaluate the following statements on their own merit. Do you agree or disagree with the statements made, and please state why. If you want you can even rate each statement from 1 to 10, 10 being the most truthful in YOUR opinion.

1. We are all born the same

2. Our development is dictated by our environment

3. Everyone has their own version of what is "right"

4. Most people couldn't care less

5. As a species, we are improving

6. We believe what we "want" to believe

7. We can't change other people, we can only change ourselves

8. Humans tend to live in "tribes" excluding those not in their tribe

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses

10. Most humans regret the choices they made when the end arrives

I posted this in philosophy because it is YOUR philosophy that likely will dictate which statements you argee with or not agree with.

And yes, I realize, each statement needs more "nuance", but that is where YOU come in, to provide the nuance that reflects your answers. Enjoy.

I only disagree with #2 and #4

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses

I think opium, drugs, alcohol and pornography of the opiate of the people.

Doesn't religion have the same effect?

 

[Daisy]

1. We are all born the same
True, we are all humans...

2. Our development is dictated by our environment
Yes...

3. Everyone has their own version of what is "right"
True...otherwise there would be no human conflicts...

4. Most people couldn't care less
About what?

5. As a species, we are improving
False...

6. We believe what we "want" to believe
True...

7. We can't change other people, we can only change ourselves
True...

8. Humans tend to live in "tribes" excluding those not in their tribe
True...

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses
True...

10. Most humans regret the choices they made when the end arrives
Shucks, I regret choices I've made and the end hasn't arrived yet...I hope not, anyway...

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

I only disagree with #2 and #4

See my comment #9 on the #2 question
As for #4, I know HERE and in other discussion forums, people care deeply. But most people seem to go through life in a fog, not caring about anything except themselves, but that is just my observation. Maybe that is the cynic in me.

 

[DrewPaul]

his thread is NOT about Biden, or Trump, or the Left or the Right. Evaluate the following statements on their own merit. Do you agree or disagree with the statements made, and please state why. If you want you can even rate each statement from 1 to 10, 10 being the most truthful in YOUR opinion.

1. We are all born the same

2. Our development is dictated by our environment

3. Everyone has their own version of what is "right"

4. Most people couldn't care less

5. As a species, we are improving

6. We believe what we "want" to believe

7. We can't change other people, we can only change ourselves

8. Humans tend to live in "tribes" excluding those not in their tribe

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses

10. Most humans regret the choices they made when the end arrives

I posted this in philosophy because it is YOUR philosophy that likely will dictate which statements you argee with or not agree with.

And yes, I realize, each statement needs more "nuance", but that is where YOU come in, to provide the nuance that reflects your answers. Enjoy.

1. False clearly.
2. Some truth
3. To some degree, many people do agree on what is right or wrong.
4. Everyone cares about something.
5. I haven't seen the improvement.
6. To some extent.
7. The idea is by changing ourselves, we do in fact change other people.
8. To a much lesser extent than hunter gatherer days.
9. False.
10. Depends how fast the end comes.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

4. Most people couldn't care less
About what?

About anything outside of themselves and their little world. I know, it was "implied".

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses
True...

WOW, you surprised me on that answer.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

1. False clearly.
2. Some truth
3. To some degree, many people do agree on what is right or wrong.
4. Everyone cares about something.
5. I haven't seen the improvement.
6. To some extent.
7. The idea is by changing ourselves, we do in fact change other people.
8. To a much lesser extent than hunter gatherer days.
9. False.
10. Depends how fast the end comes.

Just to play devil's advocate:
1. Aren't we ALL born with a clean slate?
7. Do we really though? OR do we just change how we relate to them?

 

[Daisy]

About anything outside of themselves and their little world. I know, it was "implied".

WOW, you surprised me on that answer.

True then...people wanna see the big picture but it's almost impossible without guidance...

There are plenty of religions out there and not all of them good...they mislead...

 

[OrphanSlug]

his thread is NOT about Biden, or Trump, or the Left or the Right. Evaluate the following statements on their own merit. Do you agree or disagree with the statements made, and please state why. If you want you can even rate each statement from 1 to 10, 10 being the most truthful in YOUR opinion.

1. We are all born the same

1 - Straight up lie some tell others to make some other point. From biology to location, we are all not born the same. Even in the same nation, even in the same community.

2. Our development is dictated by our environment

7 - Largely true, with a few other influences that make this not a 10.

3. Everyone has their own version of what is "right"

5 - No, everyone has their own version of what is "right" when others are watching.

4. Most people couldn't care less

7 - Largely true, most people can show empathy but rarely act on it. There is a difference between understanding and taking those understandings as their own to take action on.

5. As a species, we are improving

3 - Largely untrue, what we learn gives us avenues to improve but overall there is no metric that suggests as a species we have improved. With all we know as humans, we are largely division oriented and prone to violence.

6. We believe what we "want" to believe

10 - Absolutely true. No matter the ideologies doing the influencing, from religious to political to everything in between, people end up believing what they want to.

7. We can't change other people, we can only change ourselves

3 - Largely untrue. Everyone is capable of change, it comes down to the motivation and influence to do so.

8. Humans tend to live in "tribes" excluding those not in their tribe

10 - Absolutely true, historically proven, by just about every society and ideological influence ever recorded.

9. Religion is in fact opium for the masses

5 - Sorta true, religion is the best social control tool ever used over the masses. They are just not all the same in how they achieve those ends.

10. Most humans regret the choices they made when the end arrives

5 - Sorta true, too many examples all over the place that become anecdotal over statistical.

I posted this in philosophy because it is YOUR philosophy that likely will dictate which statements you argee with or not agree with.

And yes, I realize, each statement needs more "nuance", but that is where YOU come in, to provide the nuance that reflects your answers. Enjoy.

It is not "my philosophy," but is largely agreed to from philosophy to sociology to psychology. The study of people, their behaviors and influences, largely back up the above.

 

[DrewPaul]

Doesn't religion have the same effect?

Not that I've seen.
Example


In my own back yard ministries that help the homeless and poor.



Stating religion is the opiate of the people suggests its like a drug that makes people complacent and not care about other people. I could literally cut and paste thousands of ministries that are engaged in helping people. If it is an opiate...its a good one.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Not that I've seen.
Example
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In my own back yard ministries that help the homeless and poor.

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Stating religion is the opiate of the people suggests its like a drug that makes people complacent and not care about other people. I could literally cut and paste thousands of ministries that are engaged in helping people. If it is an opiate...its a good one.

That is why I posted the question. Some disagree, others will agree.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

3 - Largely untrue. Everyone is capable of change, it comes down to the motivation and influence to do so.

Everyone is capable of change, but my question asked if we can change them. I have had very little luck changing someone who doesn't want to change, or isn't open to change.

 

[Sweden]

Our development is NOT dictated by environment? Consider, how your development would be different if you grew up in poverty as opposed to riches, or were born in North Korea as opposed to the U.S.

Our development is is part determined by environment of course. My guess is 20% while genetic inheritence accounts for the rtest.

 

[Sweden]

Everyone is capable of change, but my question asked if we can change them. I have had very little luck changing someone who doesn't want to change, or isn't open to change.

How true! Which is why I cannot hope to wean you away from your appalling liberal misconceptions.

 

[Daisy]

Aren't we ALL born with a clean slate?

Are we really, though? Alcoholism runs in my family tree so I have to be very careful in that area...also diabetes and high blood pressure...my mother died from colon cancer so I get screened regularly...the thought of a clean slate would be nice but it's not entirely true...