Blind man said:WOW, talk about a narrow-minded poll. I was actually excited when I saw the topic, but this is just blatant Fundieism. Where's the reincarnation option? The Jonathan Seagull-esque improvement of the human spirit option? etc . . You left out a lot of options and need to open your mind to a broader world view imo.
Whether you believe in something or not, if you are to conduct a poll, at least include other sides of issues instead of trying to drum up some new converts....Lazarus said:Blind Man, I wont apologize for not believing in the eastern garbage of reincarnation nor the plethora of eastern ...ism's. Those religions are essentially a veiled attempt by demonic beings to be worshipped as God's since they couldnt be so worshipped in Heaven before the True Creator.
There is only one God and one truth. Everything else is either man's arrogant and boastful opinion which misleads himself or the devil's lies trying to lead man to worship him.
The New Testament of the Christian bible is the only proof of what happens to our souls after death. Jesus Christ said that I am the truth and the life. Not the death, but the LIFE.
Joh 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
Why do think that NDE'rs (People experiencing a near death experience) see the most intense bright light after death? That light is Christ, the giver of light to those who seek it.
Lazarus
The epitome of arrogance^^There is only one God and one truth. Everything else is either man's arrogant and boastful opinion which misleads himself or the devil's lies trying to lead man to worship him.
Lazarus said:Blind Man, I wont apologize for not believing in the eastern garbage of reincarnation nor the plethora of eastern ...ism's. Those religions are essentially a veiled attempt by demonic beings to be worshipped as God's since they couldnt be so worshipped in Heaven before the True Creator.
There is only one God and one truth. Everything else is either man's arrogant and boastful opinion which misleads himself or the devil's lies trying to lead man to worship him.
The New Testament of the Christian bible is the only proof of what happens to our souls after death. Jesus Christ said that I am the truth and the life. Not the death, but the LIFE.
Joh 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
Why do think that NDE'rs (People experiencing a near death experience) see the most intense bright light after death? That light is Christ, the giver of light to those who seek it.
Lazarus
Kandahar said:Lazarus posts on another forum I used to post on. He's actually an embittered atheist making a straw man attack on Christianity with this persona. He's also a troll.
Kandahar said:Lazarus posts on another forum I used to post on. He's actually an embittered atheist making a straw man attack on Christianity with this persona. He's also a troll.
Lazarus said:Blind Man, I wont apologize for not believing in the eastern garbage of reincarnation nor the plethora of eastern ...ism's. Those religions are essentially a veiled attempt by demonic beings to be worshipped as God's since they couldnt be so worshipped in Heaven before the True Creator.
There is only one God and one truth. Everything else is either man's arrogant and boastful opinion which misleads himself or the devil's lies trying to lead man to worship him.
The New Testament of the Christian bible is the only proof of what happens to our souls after death. Jesus Christ said that I am the truth and the life. Not the death, but the LIFE.
Joh 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
Why do think that NDE'rs (People experiencing a near death experience) see the most intense bright light after death? That light is Christ, the giver of light to those who seek it.
Lazarus
tecoyah said:Its funny....but, My Mother died for 15 minutes....and she actually saw the light you speak of...sorta...let me just say, according to her....Christ was a No Show.
Stace said:There are plenty of people that think Jesus is a joke. Who are you to say they're wrong? Jews are the Chosen People, and they don't accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Are they wrong? I don't think so. Some religions just don't work for some people, while others do. It's not for you to decide what is crap and what isn't.
FYI, most "eastern" religions don't even believe in devils or demons. Take Wicca for example, though I wouldn't call that an "eastern" religion....since they do not believe in your "God", there is also no "Satan", which disproves every person that has tried to call a Wiccan a Satan worshipper.
It might do you some good to do some research on other religions, especially paganism, since most of Christianity is derived from pagan religions.
tecoyah said:Its funny....but, My Mother died for 15 minutes....and she actually saw the light you speak of...sorta...let me just say, according to her....Christ was a No Show.
Stupiderthanthou said:Simply out of curiosity... was she a Christian before that?
SixStringHero said:Second some scientists associate the tunnel vision with the bright light as a lack of oxygen to the brain.
Lazarus said:Your association of Christianity tied in with Paganism is quite interesting. Are you Jewish perhaps? Since that's usually the M.O. given by Jews in refuting their own Messiah. The belief being that pagan holidays were hijacked by Christians, etc... Nothing could be further from the truth. The hijacking occurred when the western world changed calendars (Julian / Gregorian) and thus days of celebrating the Lord's birthday / Resurrection etc were altered and not maintained as they were in the old world. The original days of Christmas / Easter etc...are thus in the old world calendars (Eastern Orthodx Calendars). The Jews know this as well as their days of Hanukkah change as the position of the moon.
Lazarus said:Your association of Christianity tied in with Paganism is quite interesting. Are you Jewish perhaps? Since that's usually the M.O. given by Jews in refuting their own Messiah. The belief being that pagan holidays were hijacked by Christians, etc... Nothing could be further from the truth. The hijacking occurred when the western world changed calendars (Julian / Gregorian) and thus days of celebrating the Lord's birthday / Resurrection etc were altered and not maintained as they were in the old world. The original days of Christmas / Easter etc...are thus in the old world calendars (Eastern Orthodx Calendars). The Jews know this as well as their days of Hanukkah change as the position of the moon.
The truth is simple here. This link http://www.mother-of-jesus.orgshows apparition photos of the Holy Mother of Christ presenting her son as a blessing into our home. There it is folks from the spirit world, no commentary needed. Read the New Testament, Believe in Jesus the Christ who is God incarnate and live beyond the grave.
As for the comment on me being a former atheist? What????? I think you have the wrong guy here !
Aeginos
tecoyah said:Actually...she was catholic. Now has a Phd in psycology, and is a well known Holistic Healer.She told me what she experienced, and of ALL the people on this earth....I cant see her making this stuff up. Lets just say.....though I cant be sure of what happens....I'm a bit more relaxed about the whole death thing....heh.
tecoyah said:Its funny....but, My Mother died for 15 minutes....and she actually saw the light you speak of...sorta...let me just say, according to her....Christ was a No Show.
Scarecrow Akhbar said:Yeah, it's pretty amazing how so many people who're retrieved from death under the intense lights on the operating table report seeing bright lights "on the other side".
I can't figure out how, though.
tecoyah said:It is interesting...but I generally refrain from telling people what she saw because of the ridicule it garners from the closed minded. Do I accept her experience as fact....No. Does it effect my understanding of possibilities....Yes. Am I suprised in the least by your reply....Nope.
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