What do Nixon, Reagan and W Bush have in common?

[Cramer]

All 3 became POTUS by cheating.,

Nixon commits treason by interfering with the peace talks with Vietnam, LBJ finds out, and does not make it public, as he determined it would be bad for the country. it is public knowledge now

Reagan interfered in the Iran hostage crisis, by telling Iran to not let the hostages go, until after the election, and they will get a better deal. Iran released the hostages the minute after Reagan was sworn in…hello Iran Contra. The proof was recently confirmed.

W Bush creates a firestorm of BS, over the counting of the vote in FL…then the SCOTUS makes ia one time ruling…to make sure Bush wins (later after all the votes were counted in FL in an audit, it shows Bush lost) Wonder who argued that case in front of the SCOTUS…a lawyer by the name of John Roberts. Where is he now again?

Politis is a dirty messy game…but the pubs take it to a whole new level, and altered the course of America. (look at SCOTUS picks by those 3 POTUS as one example)

 

[Taylor]

Oh, look. An election denier.

 

[bongsaway]

Oh, look. An election denier.

I missed the part where he was denying anything?

 

[HIP56948]

This country runs much better when Democrats are in power. Just like the states.

 

[Taylor]

This country runs much better when Democrats are in power. Just like the states.

Most people disagree.

 

[Far right dem]

Most people disagree.

most people agree. The dems have won the popular vote 7 out of last 8 elections

 

[Far right dem]

All 3 became POTUS by cheating.,

Nixon commits treason by interfering with the peace talks with Vietnam, LBJ finds out, and does not make it public, as he determined it would be bad for the country. it is public knowledge now

Reagan interfered in the Iran hostage crisis, by telling Iran to not let the hostages go, until after the election, and they will get a better deal. Iran released the hostages the minute after Reagan was sworn in…hello Iran Contra. The proof was recently confirmed.

W Bush creates a firestorm of BS, over the counting of the vote in FL…then the SCOTUS makes ia one time ruling…to make sure Bush wins (later after all the votes were counted in FL in an audit, it shows Bush lost) Wonder who argued that case in front of the SCOTUS…a lawyer by the name of John Roberts. Where is he now again?

Politis is a dirty messy game…but the pubs take it to a whole new level, and altered the course of America. (look at SCOTUS picks by those 3 POTUS as one example)

Yep. They have ruined government

 

[ataraxia]

Most people disagree.

If you went with "most people" disagree with, there would have been no Republican presidents for the last 30 years in this country.

 

[Taylor]

most people agree. The dems have won the popular vote 7 out of last 8 elections

And?

 

[Taylor]

If you went with "most people" disagree with, there would have been no Republican presidents for the last 30 years in this country.

Getting elected is not the same thing as saying "the country runs better when Democrats are in power." Nice strawman though.

 

[Cramer]

Oh, look. An election denier.

Where is this denial?

 

[Taylor]

Where is this denial?

You claim they only got elected by cheating, election denier.

All 3 became POTUS by cheating.

 

[Cramer]

Yep. They have ruined government

They cheated to gain power. They then appointed SCOTUS judges that has enabled the legalization of bribing pols, by claiming money= speech and Corporations are persons and can be protected by the BOR. Which has then enabled them, to keep power, especially at the state level.

 

[ataraxia]

Getting elected is not the same thing as saying "the country runs better when Democrats are in power." Nice strawman though.

Well, you just wanted to know what "most people" in this country think. Now you know.

But as far as how the country runs under different parties, even Donald Trump disagrees with you:

“I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”
-Donald Trump in 2004

Trump Is Right About One Thing: 'The Economy Does Better Under The Democrats'

BY JERE GLOVER -- By crucial metrics like GDP, job creation, business investment and avoiding recessions, the economy does a lot better with Democrats in the White House than with Republicans.

www.forbes.com

 

[Cramer]

You claim they only got elected by cheating, election denier.

I don't think you understand what an election denier is....See: Trump for an example.

The OP was pointing out how 3 R Presidents cheated to win......Nixon and Reagan was behind the scenes. the truth came out years later.
We saw W Bush happen live.

Cons played the long game with the SCOTUS...and it has worked well for the R party...not so good for the American people....well, except for the top 1%...they are doing fabulously well.

 

[Taylor]

Well, you just wanted to know what "most people" in this country think. Now you know.

I already know what most people think. It's not good in general, but it's even worse when Democrats are in power.

 

[Taylor]

I don't think you understand what an election denier is....See: Trump for an example.

So you're changing your mind now? You believe all three won free and fair elections?

The OP was pointing out how 3 R Presidents cheated to win......

Oops, nope. You're still an election denier.

 

[ataraxia]

I already know what most people think. It's not good in general, but it's even worse when Democrats are in power.

Well, like I said, even Donald Trump seems to disagree.

“I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”
-Donald Trump in 2004

Trump in 2004: 'The economy does better under the Democrats'

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

theweek.com

Economists feel the same.

Economists Agree: Democratic Presidents are Better at Making Us Rich. Eight Reasons Why. - Evonomics

Wisdom of the Crowds. Preventing Government Capture. Labor Market Flexibility. Freedom to Innovate. Profitable Investments in Long-Term Growth. Power to the Producers. Fiscal Prudence. Labor and Trade Efficiencies.

evonomics.com

 

[Taylor]

Well, like I said, even Donald Trump seems to disagree.

“I’ve been around for a long time and it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans.”
-Donald Trump in 2004

Trump in 2004: 'The economy does better under the Democrats'

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

theweek.com

Economists feel the same.

Economists Agree: Democratic Presidents are Better at Making Us Rich. Eight Reasons Why. - Evonomics

Wisdom of the Crowds. Preventing Government Capture. Labor Market Flexibility. Freedom to Innovate. Profitable Investments in Long-Term Growth. Power to the Producers. Fiscal Prudence. Labor and Trade Efficiencies.

evonomics.com

Noted. You're basing your entire opinion on what Trump told you about the economy 20 years ago.

 

[CaughtInThe]

what Reagan did is unforgiveable. he has disgraced his family and his descendants.

his son, and others, should distance themselves from this most vile of actions.

 

[ataraxia]

Noted. You're basing your entire opinion on what Trump told you about the economy 20 years ago.

Seems like you were making a pretty blanket assertion of how the economy does under the Republican vs Democrat presidents. The trend is long and unmistakable: and says you are wrong.

" Since 1933, nonfarm jobs increased by 2.8 percentage points under Democratic presidents compared to 1 percent under GOP presidents. Similarly, income and economic growth grew at 4.6 percent annually under Democrats compared to 2.4 percent under Republicans."

If you’re voting based on the economy, know that Democrats historically deliver | Butler County Democrats

Some people claim they’ll vote Republican this election because the economy isn’t great right now: high gas and food prices, higher interest rates, uncertainty about the future.

butlercountydems.org

So now you want to get a little more specific? How specific do you want to get? only since 2000? Even that doesn't pan out. Because if you just look at Trump alone, he is the only one to LOSE jobs since the 1930s. Now you may say that's because of Covid, and that's fair. But man, now you're getting REALLY specific, and have to specify what possible metric you're looking at to make your conclusions- because it seems like you really have to cherry pick the numbers to make that come out. I'd be very curious to see how you're pulling off that trick.

 

[ataraxia]

Noted. You're basing your entire opinion on what Trump told you about the economy 20 years ago.

I also linked you to all the economists. Let me know what other source you would like to see? Fox news?

 

[Taylor]

I also linked you to all the economists. Let me know what other source you would like to see? Fox news?

No you didn't. You linked some piece by a progressive MMT fan who isn't an economist at all.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

All 3 became POTUS by cheating.,

The [Republican] Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday [4/21/2020] reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...rms-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-in-2016-198171

The government has recovered more than 300 documents with classified markings from Trump since he left office. The first batch of documents was returned in January, another set provided by Trump’s aides to the Justice Department in June and the material seized by the F.B.I. in its search at Mar-a-Lago.

As President, Trump conducted a three-month campaign to overthrow our elected government, culminating on Jan. 6, 2021.

“We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”
“When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules."
“We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
"Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. We are going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.”
**********************************************************************************************Donald J. Trump, Jan. 6, 2021

Pro-Russian Trump says Russia is not the enemy.

Fox News provided Trump's speech in which he made his sentiments known. There is no ambiguity.

"Our foreign policy establishment keeps trying to pull the world into conflict with a nuclear-armed Russia based on the lie that Russia represents our greatest threat," Trump said in a video first posted to his Truth Social account. "But the greatest threat to Western civilization today is not Russia. It's probably more than anything else ourselves and some of the horrible, USA-hating people that represent us," Donald Trump.

No more needs to be said.

 

[JMR]

Most people disagree.

Check your facts.