what comes to your mind if you think of Mexico?

[Perotista]

Mexico City

Aztec and Mayan civilizations.

 

[NatMorton]

Suck on this masterpiece, sunshine:

Baiting aside, perhaps you'd care to comment on how Mexico human freedom index ranks in the world:

Freedom Index by Country 2025

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

They're just above Kenya and below shitholes to Columbia and Sierra Leone.

 

[NatMorton]

I will agree there is an outdated machismo mindset but to say the majority of women in Mexico are little more than property is not true. They even elected a woman President before the US, so they are somewhat ahead of us on some gender roles.

Are you seriously going to argue your prospects as a woman to lead a healthy, fulfilling life are better living in Mexico than they are here in the US? If you are, we can end the conversation right now.

 

[americanwoman]

Are you seriously going to argue your prospects as a woman to lead a healthy, fulfilling life are better living in Mexico than they are here in the US? If you are, we can end the conversation right now.

I know a lot of strong women living healthy fulfilling lives in Mexico and many prefer to live over there than here. I don't know why you think it's so rare.

 

[NatMorton]

I know a lot of strong women living healthy fulfilling lives in Mexico and many prefer to live over there than here. I don't know why you think it's so rare.

I think your assertion of Mexico being better for women is nuts.

 

[americanwoman]

I think your assertion of Mexico being better for women is nuts.

Every woman is different and I never said it was better, did I?

 

[NatMorton]

Every woman is different and I never said it was better, did I?

Here's a by-country rating of women's rights by Georgetown University and their take on Mexico:

Mexico

How does your country rank on women’s wellbeing? Explore the @giwps & @PRIOresearch 2023 Women, Peace & Security Index, which ranks 177 countries on the status of women. #WPSindex https://giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/

giwps.georgetown.edu

Mexico ranks 142 out of 177 countries.

When it comes to treating women equally under the law, we can safely label Mexico as one of the world's most misogynist shit holes.

It's as if you're suddenly afraid to speak up for women's rights because (gasp!) it would mean agreeing with me.

 

[Sven Karma]

Baiting aside, perhaps you'd care to comment on how Mexico human freedom index ranks in the world:

Freedom Index by Country 2025

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

They're just above Kenya and below shitholes to Columbia and Sierra Leone.

Posting a masterpiece of 20th c Mexican classical music in a thread about Mexico in response to a post denigrating Mexican culture is, in your head, 'baiting' huh. Life's too short. You are dismissed.

 

[Sven Karma]

Some classic 90's rock rap from Mexico:

 

[Allan]

Beaches and sun on the coast, interesting colonial cities like San Miguel de Allende and Guanajuato inland.

 

[Nickyjo]

Beaches and sun on the coast, interesting colonial cities like San Miguel de Allende and Guanajuato inland.

Glad you mentioned Guanajuato, which some tourists skip over when visiting San Miguel Allende. Gorgeous city, university town with great festivals and customs.


Mexico has great music, incredibly friendly and hospitable people, excellent varied foods to eat, and on and on. There are several vacations to take there, whether it’s to the center of the country, Baja California, the Yucatán or the pacific coast beach cities near Acapulco. On the one hand, it hasn’t been served well by its government. But on the other, it abolished slavery years before the US did (one of the reasons for the Alamo) and not only has elected a female president, but also had indigenous presidents years before the US elected a Black leader. And they gave us Fernando Valenzuela.

 

[Sven Karma]

 

[americanwoman]

Here's a by-country rating of women's rights by Georgetown University and their take on Mexico:

Mexico

How does your country rank on women’s wellbeing? Explore the @giwps & @PRIOresearch 2023 Women, Peace & Security Index, which ranks 177 countries on the status of women. #WPSindex https://giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/

giwps.georgetown.edu

Mexico ranks 142 out of 177 countries.

When it comes to treating women equally under the law, we can safely label Mexico as one of the world's most misogynist shit holes.

It's as if you're suddenly afraid to speak up for women's rights because (gasp!) it would mean agreeing with me.

I did agree with you, if you look back. Why can't you also admit there are some women who live in Mexico and do live a safe, fulfilling life?

 

[Allan]

Glad you mentioned Guanajuato, which some tourists skip over when visiting San Miguel Allende. Gorgeous city, university town with great festivals and customs.


Mexico has great music, incredibly friendly and hospitable people, excellent varied foods to eat, and on and on. There are several vacations to take there, whether it’s to the center of the country, Baja California, the Yucatán or the pacific coast beach cities near Acapulco. On the one hand, it hasn’t been served well by its government. But on the other, it abolished slavery years before the US did (one of the reasons for the Alamo) and not only has elected a female president, but also had indigenous presidents years before the US elected a Black leader. And they gave us Fernando Valenzuela.

I fell in love with both cities. I bought a vacation house in San Miguel de Allende, preferring it for its larger expat community.

Mexicans in that part of the country are so warm and friendly.

 

[Ganondagan]

Maya.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Great food
Passionate people
European colonialism
Cheap pharmaceuticals
Cheap labor US businesses cannot do without, and refuse to
Even greater political corruption than the US
Drug cartels
Retirement living for Americans
Good Tequila, bad beer

 

[Lycanthrope]

I will agree there is an outdated machismo mindset but to say the majority of women in Mexico are little more than property is not true. They even elected a woman President before the US, so they are somewhat ahead of us on some gender roles.

I would argue that for all the silly machismo most Latin nations respect women more than the States, particularly as leaders.

 

[Allan]

Good Tequila, bad beer

Truth.

 

[NatMorton]

Posting a masterpiece of 20th c Mexican classical music in a thread about Mexico in response to a post denigrating Mexican culture is, in your head, 'baiting' huh. Life's too short. You are dismissed.

I think you're letting anecdotes sway your thinking. Mexico has some serious cultural problems, and the cite I posted (i.e., the one you blithely ignored) proves it.

 

[NatMorton]

I did agree with you, if you look back. Why can't you also admit there are some women who live in Mexico and do live a safe, fulfilling life?

Some people lived safe, fulfilling lives in the USSR. Why do you believe that observation is relevant?

 

[Allan]

Mexico has some serious cultural problems

Physician heal thyself.

 

[NatMorton]

Physician heal thyself.

Moral relativism, the last bastion of a meaningless argument.

 

[Allan]

Moral relativism, the last bastion of a meaningless argument.

America has no business pointing fingers at anyone else when it comes to 'cultural problems'.

You are the world's cautionary tale in that regard.

 

[NatMorton]

America has no business pointing fingers at anyone else when it comes to 'cultural problems'.

You are the world's cautionary tale in that regard.

Sure we do. Culturally, we are vastly superior to most nations. HIstorically, and when you consider the importance of human rights, we are perhaps the most important nation in the history of the planet. Even Trump can't change that.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Sure we do. Culturally, we are vastly superior to most nations. HIstorically, and when you consider the importance of human rights, we are perhaps the most important nation in the history of the planet. Even Trump can't change that.

Famous last words