What changes your mind (re: Issues)

[Patriotic Voter]

The single most impervious-to-reason poster on this forum is always happy to tell you that he deals only in facts.

Who is that?

Obviously not me because you know I am a woman.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

I also like well reasoned arguments. They don't always work but they are the only thing that does work. I also like facts and data. And I don't like opinion pieces from some random person.

Me too. If the "evidence" someone cites in an attempt to support his/her opinion is written in the first person, I ignore it.

 

[Antiwar]

Ethics.

 

[Cardinal]

Who is that?

Obviously not me because you know I am a woman.

I don't even know who you are.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

I don't even know who you are.

You know the word "female" is under my username and I am a liberal Democrat in Florida.

 

[Cardinal]

You know the word "female" is under my username and I am a liberal Joe Biden supporter in Florida.

So? Why do you think I'm thinking about you at all?

 

[Patriotic Voter]

So? Why do you think I'm thinking about you at all?

"You are dismissed" is a telling statement.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

On topic, which specific issues have people changed their minds about, and why?

For me, the big one is medical marijuana. After reading studies have concluded it is good for treating epilepsy, cancer, and other conditions for much lower prices than other drugs, I decided people should be allowed to get it from doctors (not nurse practitioners) as a prescription medication everywhere.

 

[Cardinal]

Until Spring 2017, I used to believe that Republicans were people who wanted the best for America, but disagreed on the best way to get there. I don't think that anymore.

 

[bongsaway]

What does it take to change your mind about an issue that you perhaps feel or felt strongly about?

For me, it would be a well laid out, reasoned argument documenting facts, allowing the alternate side their views and the coming to a conclusion sans the political bias.

I think the partisanship that is so prevalent in today's world/climate just puts me off as well as all the chicken little cries about 'we HAVE to do this or that'.

So how about you guys?

Results. You can tell me anything, I want to see results. Like the donald's great southern wall and the arrest of hillary. I'm still waiting for either to happen. Lower drug costs, better health insurance, a good infrastructure bill, all things promised, none delivered. Why would I vote for that person again if I had voted for them the first time around?

 

[Maccabee]

What does it take to change your mind about an issue that you perhaps feel or felt strongly about?

For me, it would be a well laid out, reasoned argument documenting facts, allowing the alternate side their views and the coming to a conclusion sans the political bias.

I think the partisanship that is so prevalent in today's world/climate just puts me off as well as all the chicken little cries about 'we HAVE to do this or that'.

So how about you guys?

I'm pretty much the same. Although it usually little bits and pieces before I find myself abandoning my previous belief altogether.

 

[tres borrachos]

a well reasoned argument is usually based in facts and truth.......

Exactly. That's why I ignore the "opinion" pieces from some random ass with a political angle.

 

[Cope]

Results. You can tell me anything, I want to see results. Like the donald's great southern wall and the arrest of hillary. I'm still waiting for either to happen. Lower drug costs, better health insurance, a good infrastructure bill, all things promised, none delivered. Why would I vote for that person again if I had voted for them the first time around?

I 'll agree with the results based idea. Throughout our history we have long been trying to do things just because. Some have had some success, others have fallen flat.

Do you think that we have learned from those mistakes or do you feel that we continue to make a lot of the same ones?

 

[bongsaway]

I 'll agree with the results based idea. Throughout our history we have long been trying to do things just because. Some have had some success, others have fallen flat.

Do you think that we have learned from those mistakes or do you feel that we continue to make a lot of the same ones?

Vietnam, afghanistan. We keep making the same mistakes.

 

[Cope]

Vietnam, afghanistan. We keep making the same mistakes.

I could list a few more, from both sides of the aisle:

Educational funding
Political funding
Divisiveness (this one works I guess though)
The taking away of personal responsibility

Anything designed to create equity instead of equality of opportunity

 

[bongsaway]

I could list a few more, from both sides of the aisle:

Educational funding
Political funding
Divisiveness (this one works I guess though)
The taking away of personal responsibility

Anything designed to create equity instead of equality of opportunity

Who is taking away personal responsibility? I have bills to pay and if I don't pay them, nobody else is going to pay them, I have to be personally responsible.

 

[Cope]

Who is taking away personal responsibility? I have bills to pay and if I don't pay them, nobody else is going to pay them, I have to be personally responsible.

There are people who will regularly argue that those people (list your favorite identity group) shouldn't be responsible for something or other because X. It happens pretty regularly.