Western societies. This is freedom?

[John V]

I wonder how fast western decline is heading towards a collectivized train wreck.
The removal of traditional values and a collective consensus of morals create a huge vacuum within society.

Into a moral vacuum and a weakened dysfunctional society will come drug abuse, celebrity hero worship, the normalization of sexual perversions, political corruption, cultural Marxism competing for group dominance . . . . . which destroys what you once had and replaces it with what the minority wanted and which the majority are now starting to wonder what has hit them.

Outside the western hemisphere, these people would be considered mentally ill, not role models and society would be very worried about it



This behaviour in public would get you arrested, not applauded



These people would be forcibly removed from the streets into prisons



And these would be forced to work or starve



and most of these people would already have been arrested and publicly shot

 

[Kurmugeon]

So, Whatcha gunna do about it?

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[John V]

So, Whatcha gunna do about it?

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Leave and go and live elsewhere.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Leave and go and live elsewhere.

Those of U.S. with modest means, particularly Working Whites Born into Poverty-Low Income lives, don't have such options.

Meanwhile, we watch the President flood the country with Illegal Immigrants who will be given near instant citizenship, and/or then allows to commit massive voter fraud. These same newcomers will also be given significant advantages in education, jobs, business loans, special legal protections, special assistance programs, all on account of their "Race".

For those of U.S. who cannot leave, what do you suggest we do?

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[radioman]

Outside the western hemisphere, these people would be considered mentally ill, not role models and society would be very worried about it

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Self-destructed.
Dead and gone.

This behaviour in public would get you arrested, not applauded

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Not certain as to what is going on here.
Frat party, maybe?

These people would be forcibly removed from the streets into prisons

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When they are convicted of a crime, they will be imprisoned.
Being ugly is no crime.

And these would be forced to work or starve

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They look fairly well fed, alright.
How do you know they don't work?

and most of these people would already have been arrested and publicly shot

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Well...I'm not a big fan of these guys, but it's not like they're members of the Politburo, so....:shrug:
Isn't the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre coming up soon?
June 4th, as I recall....enjoy.

 

[John V]

Those of U.S. with modest means, particularly Working Whites Born into Poverty-Low Income lives, don't have such options.

Meanwhile, we watch the President flood the country with Illegal Immigrants who will be given near instant citizenship, and/or then allows to commit massive voter fraud. These same newcomers will also be given significant advantages in education, jobs, business loans, special legal protections, special assistance programs, all on account of their "Race".

For those of U.S. who cannot leave, what do you suggest we do?

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Stop voting for people like Obama and learn from Europe. It's where your 'change you can believe in' comes from.

 

[spud_meister]

Yes. Freedom isn't freedom from things you don't like.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Stop voting for people like Obama and learn from Europe. It's where your 'change you can believe in' comes from.

But I've never voted for people like Obama. In fact, even though I consider myself a "Classic Liberal", I haven't voted for a Democratic Presidential Candidate, since Bill Clinton turned me away from the Democratic Party.

No one in my immediate family, and few in a large extended, native born Hispanic Family, votes for Democrats.

But I watch the same people, at the polls, election cycle after cycle, go into the voting booth, leave, wait 20 minutes, and come back again, over and over and over, all day long. Usually they are well known and easily recognizable illegal immigrants.

So our state of New Mexico stays poor, and on the bottom of every list about the 50 states, and the Democrats have almost unlimited power.

Yes, I've reported the voter fraud, and was told by the police, who were waiting out side the polling station, the next election, that I was not allowed to loiter at the polling station, to witness the fraud. They spoke to me by name. They also confiscated a camera.

Well, what do you suggest?

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[John V]

Self-destructed.
Dead and gone.


Not certain as to what is going on here.
Frat party, maybe?


When they are convicted of a crime, they will be imprisoned.
Being ugly is no crime.


They look fairly well fed, alright.
How do you know they don't work?


Well...I'm not a big fan of these guys, but it's not like they're members of the Politburo, so....:shrug:
Isn't the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre coming up soon?
June 4th, as I recall....enjoy.

Tiananmen square? Nothing to do with me, likewise the Ferguson riots, recession, mass unemployment, food kitchens, minimum wage . . . enjoy. :wink:

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Leave and go and live elsewhere.

lol Yeah sure.

We're morally corrupt and everywhere else has their chips all in line. Logic is infallible with this one.

 

[Chagos]

Not certain as to what is going on here.
Frat party, maybe?

Possibly an overseas affiliate of the Japanese?


http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/location/spot/festival/saidaijieyohadaka.html

 

[Kurmugeon]

lol Yeah sure.

We're morally corrupt and everywhere else has their chips all in line. Logic is infallible with this one.

So what do you suggest Myself, and other Poverty-Low Income Born White Americans, particularly males, born in "Designated Minority" Numerical-Majority states do?

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[radioman]

Possibly an overseas affiliate of the Japanese?
View attachment 67185027

Saidai-ji Eyo Hadaka Matsuri | Japan National Tourism Organization

This looks like a group of undernourished Sumo wrestlers to me.

 

[Chagos]

This looks like a group of undernourished Sumo wrestlers to me.

That's why they're at that festival. To gain sufficient good luck needed to fatten up. :mrgreen:

Clear sign of the West going to the dogs.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

So what do you suggest Myself, and other Poverty-Low Income Born White Americans, particularly males, born in "Designated Minority" Numerical-Majority states do?

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Do about what? The fact that Amy Winehouse (not even an American) was famous because of a song . . . or that guys get together and party? Or that Politicians are corrupt (in every country - world wide, mind you).

Well.

Don't engage in the behavior you don't approve of.
Don't uphold celebrities and others who do the behavior you don't approve of.
Don't associate with any of it.
Don't elect people who have a checkered past.
Don't do drugs and thus support drug cartels.

Etc etc etc

What is infallible about that - or race-related . . . or even related to being poor?

There's nothing in that OP that I haven't seen in the media or online from other countries. People are just being willfully ignorant if they claim that the US is defunct and all other countries are not.

 

[John V]

But I've never voted for people like Obama. In fact, even though I consider myself a "Classic Liberal", I haven't voted for a Democratic Presidential Candidate, since Bill Clinton turned me away from the Democratic Party.

No one in my immediate family, and few in a large extended, native born Hispanic Family, votes for Democrats.

But I watch the same people, at the polls, election cycle after cycle, go into the voting booth, leave, wait 20 minutes, and come back again, over and over and over, all day long. Usually they are well known and easily recognizable illegal immigrants.

So our state of New Mexico stays poor, and on the bottom of every list about the 50 states, and the Democrats have almost unlimited power.

Yes, I've reported the voter fraud, and was told by the police, who were waiting out side the polling station, the next election, that I was not allowed to loiter at the polling station, to witness the fraud. They spoke to me by name. They also confiscated a camera.

Well, what do you suggest?

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My point was to illustrate. When the U.S. turns away from everything that made it great and adopts a new age equality, diversity, State dependency, legalise drugs . . . alternative, it doesn’t produce a utopia, but just like Europe, it produces a socially dysfunctional multicultural nightmare. You think it’s bad now? Imagine twenty years of liberalism, because that’s what the UK has had. You might like to take a look at a short light hearted article I wrote recently on liberalism. The Modern Social Liberal | John V - Academia.edu

What can I suggest, what can I do about the voting problem you stated, except to say, so much for the ‘Land of the free’ and the rule of law. I saw the UK going the same way you are now and got out along with millions of others; estimates suggest that from 5 to 10% of the UK population has already emigrated. I’d just say don’t get involved with it all, don’t let yourself be persuaded and wait for common sense to return. Hopefully, the people of the U.S. will wake up soon, catch on to what’s happening around them and throw out the Obama’s, Pelosi’s and all the rest of these cultural Marxist creatures.

 

[Chomsky]

I wonder how fast western decline is heading towards a collectivized train wreck.
The removal of traditional values and a collective consensus of morals create a huge vacuum within society.

Into a moral vacuum and a weakened dysfunctional society will come drug abuse, celebrity hero worship, the normalization of sexual perversions, political corruption, cultural Marxism competing for group dominance . . . . . which destroys what you once had and replaces it with what the minority wanted and which the majority are now starting to wonder what has hit them.

Outside the western hemisphere, these people would be considered mentally ill, not role models and society would be very worried about it

View attachment 67185015

This behaviour in public would get you arrested, not applauded

View attachment 67185016

These people would be forcibly removed from the streets into prisons

View attachment 67185017

And these would be forced to work or starve

View attachment 67185018

and most of these people would already have been arrested and publicly shot

View attachment 67185019

These freedoms above (and many more) are exactly why I live in America & love it!

Leave and go and live elsewhere.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

 

[John V]

Do about what? The fact that Amy Winehouse (not even an American) was famous because of a song . . . or that guys get together and party? Or that Politicians are corrupt (in every country - world wide, mind you).

Well.

Don't engage in the behavior you don't approve of.
Don't uphold celebrities and others who do the behavior you don't approve of.
Don't associate with any of it.
Don't elect people who have a checkered past.
Don't do drugs and thus support drug cartels.

Etc etc etc

What is infallible about that - or race-related . . . or even related to being poor?

There's nothing in that OP that I haven't seen in the media or online from other countries. People are just being willfully ignorant if they claim that the US is defunct and all other countries are not.

It's not just the U.S. it's occurring throughout the western world, which is why I included 'western societies' in the title. You think you've got it bad? See the mess Europe is in, because that's where all this 'change you can believe in' comes from. You've been hit by a large dose of cultural Marxism and socialism, disguised by democrats as equality, diversity and multiculturalism - just like Europe.

 

[John V]

These freedoms above (and many more) are exactly why I live in America & love it!

Dont't let the door hit you on the way out!

Enjoy it, each to their own.

 

[Kurmugeon]

My point was to illustrate. When the U.S. turns away from everything that made it great and adopts a new age equality, diversity, State dependency, legalise drugs . . . alternative, it doesn’t produce a utopia, but just like Europe, it produces a socially dysfunctional multicultural nightmare. You think it’s bad now? Imagine twenty years of liberalism, because that’s what the UK has had. You might like to take a look at a short light hearted article I wrote recently on liberalism. The Modern Social Liberal | John V - Academia.edu

What can I suggest, what can I do about the voting problem you stated, except to say, so much for the ‘Land of the free’ and the rule of law. I saw the UK going the same way you are now and got out along with millions of others; estimates suggest that from 5 to 10% of the UK population has already emigrated. I’d just say don’t get involved with it all, don’t let yourself be persuaded and wait for common sense to return. Hopefully, the people of the U.S. will wake up soon, catch on to what’s happening around them and throw out the Obama’s, Pelosi’s and all the rest of these cultural Marxist creatures.

I have been fighting these problems for years.

The Race-Card has been shapelessly and intensively played against anyone who suggests that we return to M.L.King's Dream of a race neutral country which provides opportunities to its citizens ( and NOT to Illegal Non-Citizens! ) based on NEED and MERIT!

I have received more than a little abuse on this forum, for daring to suggest that Dr. King had it right, all those years ago.

Understand, the bulk of the Democratic Party's Voter Fraud occurring in New Mexico, is hiding behind the "Sanctuary-City" policies of issuing full driver's licensees to Illegals without question, combined with corrupt abuse of the "Voting Rights Act".

Fighting the Leftie-corruption in New Mexico, as you outlined in the OP, is therefore integrally linked to fighting the Affirmative Action Government Institutionalized Racial Discrimination!

If we can stop the Racial Pandering, particularly to Illegals, we can break the corrupt lock-hold the Dems have held in this state for my entire life!

Recently, backlash against the catering to Illegals, and the crime, costs, disease, and drugs that come with them, has resulted in a shift of the state toward Conservative and Republican candidates, as shown the the very hopeful election of our Governor Susana Martinez. With few exceptions, she has been a beacon of hope and solid leadership in our state and I greatly hope to see more of her stature in New Mexico political office.

Meanwhile, I do what I can to help bring attention to the problems of AA, the Democrats Racial Pandering, and the Illegal Immigrant Multiple Vote per Election Cycle Fraud.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...white-voters-solidarity-movement-w-327-a.html

Working Class Whites need to find a sense of themselves, their PRIDE, and demand that they receive their 14th Amendment Civil Rights!

This is not to say that I hold any favor for the vile racists of Stormfront, or the KKK, or that ilk, as you see, when you read the 5 Principals on which I base my concept.

That is not to say that I have any patience at all with the equally vile racists of the NBPP, La Raza, or Mecha!

It is well past time for America to refocus itself on Dr. King's Dream.

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[US Conservative]

I wonder how fast western decline is heading towards a collectivized train wreck.
The removal of traditional values and a collective consensus of morals create a huge vacuum within society.

Into a moral vacuum and a weakened dysfunctional society will come drug abuse, celebrity hero worship, the normalization of sexual perversions, political corruption, cultural Marxism competing for group dominance . . . . . which destroys what you once had and replaces it with what the minority wanted and which the majority are now starting to wonder what has hit them.

Outside the western hemisphere, these people would be considered mentally ill, not role models and society would be very worried about it

View attachment 67185015

This behaviour in public would get you arrested, not applauded

View attachment 67185016

These people would be forcibly removed from the streets into prisons

View attachment 67185017

And these would be forced to work or starve

View attachment 67185018

and most of these people would already have been arrested and publicly shot

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Are you a Chinese national?

 

[Risky Thicket]

So this thread is really a troll thread about Obama and those goddam liberals.

If you live in China and you are going somewhere other than where you are and you aren't coming to the US what difference does it make?

I suggest you try one of the 'Stan countries where none of what you mentioned in your OP is taken the least bit lightly.

 

[John V]

Possibly an overseas affiliate of the Japanese?
View attachment 67185027

Saidai-ji Eyo Hadaka Matsuri | Japan National Tourism Organization

I’ll give you a clue. The winner of the Eurovision song contest in 2014 was:



And don’t laugh, it’s a criminal offence in the UK to cause offence, alarm or distress to anyone. :lol:

 

[John V]

So this thread is really a troll thread about Obama and those goddam liberals.

If you live in China and you are going somewhere other than where you are and you aren't coming to the US what difference does it make?

I suggest you try one of the 'Stan countries where none of what you mentioned in your OP is taken the least bit lightly.

Who am I trolling? I’ve already stated it’s a western problem, not that specifically related to Obama, but Europe is where he got his ideas from. If you haven’t got any sensible input or aren’t able to understand what’s written, why reply?
Why don't I try the 'Stan' countries? No thanks, I'm doing OK where I am, in fact very OK

Usually, around page three of threads, any debate has already reached its conclusion and the baiting, one liners and the silliness starts. I’ll debate if there's anything sensible, otherwise I’ll leave this to those prowling around with nothing else to do.

 

[US Conservative]

Why No thanks, I'm doing OK where I am, in fact very OK

Is the CPC keeping you well fed?