Were the Leftists on DP, those who claimed Biden was mentally capable of being president, duped or were they fundamentally dishonest?

[SMTA]

His posts are truthful. I don't find that childish.

Based on the shit that he stirred up in this thread, for no reason, where he posted lies, I found as childish.

 

[Slartibartfast]

We were told that those jobs would come back as US companies got more competitive. AND that they would be made up for by new high tech jobs.

Mostly, that did not happen. The manufacturing jobs did not come back, US corportations, went multination and just adapted to outsourcing, while the high tech jobs went to H1 visa holders on the Left Coast.


So, that policy failed. What "multiple ways" do you offer instead of reversing the policy of globalization?

The manufacturing jobs are unlikely to come back under any circumstance that doesn’t really crash the us economy.

Fixing it will require reorienting the work force.

 

[Corbell]

The Joe Rogan Show is not indicative of character

It kind of is.

Turmp was confident in his own abilities to face an unstructured interview and let the American people see him.


Harris, either wasn't confident in her ability to do that, or, was afraid to let the American people see her outside the protective cocoon her staff had built for her.


Imagine for a second how you would have felt, if that situation was REVERSED, with TRUMP hiding from scrutiny and HARRIS confidently dancing in the spotlight.

 

[PoS]

Yet they were able to thwart the Republicans' attempt to shut down the government. Ever heard of the phoenix?

Stop lying. The repubs didnt want to shut down the government. Why do you keep lying? Oh wait, its you- its second nature, isnt it?

 

[Big Brother]

In fact, as the poll indicates, many believe some willingly lied for the incompetent puppet.

It is what we expect from the left today, party above everything else. The party demands 100% loyalty and dedication, and if that means lying to cover up for a puppet POTUS, no problem. If the party demands propagating Trump Hate everyone, 24h/day, they do it. It's part of being a leftist, and if leftists don't do it they are called bad names on the Internet, cancelled, and even kicked out of the party.

 

[Corbell]

The closed minds who listen to Rogan wouldn't have understood her points anyway, so why would she waste her time? You obviously did not see her interviews with real journalists.

The point is that she was afraid to even try. And even if she didn't pick up many rogan viewers, displaying that level of confidence would have motivated her supporters.

Unless she completely blew it, of course.

 

[Corbell]

The manufacturing jobs are unlikely to come back under any circumstance that doesn’t really crash the us economy.

Fixing it will require reorienting the work force.

"Training"? LOL. Never heard that one before. We've been "Training" for generations. The high tech jobs aren't there. They are on the left coast or un in new england. Your answer was already tried and failed, over and over again.

 

[Slartibartfast]

"Training"? LOL. Never heard that one before. We've been "Training" for generations. The high tech jobs aren't there. They are on the left coast or un in new england. Your answer was already tried and failed, over and over again.

People have migrated and upended their lives for work in pretty much all previous generations of humankind. You are not special.

 

[Corbell]

People have migrated and upended their lives for work in pretty much all previous generations of humankind. You are not special.

Appearently we are special, in that we are the only group not allowed to organize and advocate for our interests to be represented in policy.

So, your answer is move to where the jobs are? Do you really mean that for the entire working class of the rust belt, or is this that thing you do where you respond to a policy point with personal advice?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Appearently we are special, in that we are the only group not allowed to organize and advocate for our interests to be represented in policy.

You can do that all you want.l, just like I can advocate for having 13 toes all I want. Neither advocacy will be successful due to a desire for an unrealistic outcome.

So, your answer is move to where the jobs are? Do you really mean that for the entire working class of the rust belt, or is this that thing you do where you respond to a policy point with personal advice?

That’s always been the answer. Either that or innovate new economic activity.

It’s the same answer I give my kids when they ask such questions.

 

[Big Brother]

Stop lying. The repubs didnt want to shut down the government. Why do you keep lying? Oh wait, its you- its second nature, isnt it?

It's their job as leftists to do anything and everything to resist the right. Politics for them isn't about people and right vs. wrong, its about getting their party enough power that they don't have to worry about any resistance.

 

[VySky]

Biden was an excellent president. Remember everybody predicted (and some hoped for) a recession? Didn't happen. Stock market set records. Unemployment very low. Interest rates dropping.

lol... The average credit card interest rate is ~24%.

In 2016 is was 12.5 %

And you were saying?

 

[Big Brother]

lol... The average credit card interest rate is ~24%.

In 2016 is was 12.5 %

And you were saying?

Credit card companies have always been massive contributors to Joe Biden. What else would you expect as he rose in power? The entire left is in love with Big Banks and Wall St. ever since the party converted to corporatism.

 

[SMTA]

It kind of is.

Turmp was confident in his own abilities to face an unstructured interview and let the American people see him.


Harris, either wasn't confident in her ability to do that, or, was afraid to let the American people see her outside the protective cocoon her staff had built for her.


Imagine for a second how you would have felt, if that situation was REVERSED, with TRUMP hiding from scrutiny and HARRIS confidently dancing in the spotlight.

Joe Rogan is just another side show douchebag like Alex Jones.

 

[braindrain]

He shit the bed in a debate he had no reason to partake in.

It spurned media outlets to start the rumblings for him to step aside for 2024.

You think the POTUS should not be able to handle a debate ain’t someone as incompetent as Trump.

We have different standards.

 

[braindrain]

I tend not to diagnose anyone via ze internetz. That's on MAGA.

So I guess you just didn’t happen to the countless times left wing posters on this site have diagnosing trump since the first time he was elected.

 

[braindrain]

He was/is mentally capable of being President.
He wasn't capable of campaigning.

The debate shows otherwise. Or do you think a debate agonists a mental lightweight like trump is harder then being potus.

 

[braindrain]

Keep saying it, but who is POTUS today, right now?

He's fine, he clearly lost a step at some point and they've covered for him.

That's not even especially unusual, there were similar situations for Reagan, JKF, Roosevelt, and others.

He is definitely not fine. That is simply you burying your head on the sand.

And that you seem fine with unelected staffers not only lying to the public but also acting as the president is rather disturbing.

 

[braindrain]

POTUS select their advisors. It's not a perfect system, but we're only human. Propose an improvement.

Advisors are not decision makers at the level of potus.
And to think they were trying to push him to be president for 4 more years knowing full well he was not capable shows they were simply interested in holding on to power.

 

[braindrain]

I fail to see why this is such a big issue now. All it does is elaborate on the fact that Trump's victory was based on a very low bar. Think about it. The only two elections Trump won were against women. One a black woman. The one election he lost was against (according to MAGA), a demented old man.

Now winning against women is no great accomplishment as this has always been a handicap for women in America. What does actually losing to a demented old man hiding out in his basement say about Trump?

That you don’t see an issue with the leadership of the Democratic Party as well as the MSM not only lying about the fact that Biden was failing mentally and has been for years but were still trying to push him to become the president for 4 more years says more about you then your post said about the anyone on the right.

 

[WillyPete]

He is definitely not fine. That is simply you burying your head on the sand.

And that you seem fine with unelected staffers not only lying to the public but also acting as the president is rather disturbing.

Advisors are not decision makers at the level of potus.
And to think they were trying to push him to be president for 4 more years knowing full well he was not capable shows they were simply interested in holding on to power.

We're set up so the cabinet is really the only ones positioned to do anything about it, beyond impeachment. Propose an improvement.

I think you folks have overstated this. They haven't covered for Biden in any way that hasn't been done before for other POTUSes.

 

[braindrain]

Biden was a good president. My first choice? No. Better than Trump? Unquestionably.

Biden assumed office with much on his plate. He did well and comparatively he is still doing a better job for the nation than Donald Trump did or proposes to do.

As the time wore on Biden's age began to slow him down. It did not in my opinion diminish his ability to think and reason. Trump and his handlers used the Presidential Debate to mount a campaign of Biden incompetence. MAGA's well established penchant to follow without reason, without question, was instrumental in sinking the hook. Biden was never able to overcome the loss.

If the question is to compare Biden's cognitive abilities today to Trump's cognitive abilities today, Biden wins.

That said, I would prefer neither today.

So you think ask the Biden White House staffers and elected officials that have come out talking about Biden’s failing mental state are all lying and just trying to support trump and his handlers? Seems a weird idea.

 

[braindrain]

We're set up so the cabinet is really the only ones positioned to do anything about it, beyond impeachment. Propose an improvement.

I think you folks have overstated this. They haven't covered for Biden in any way that hasn't been done before for other POTUSes.

Impeachment is fine. The president should just not supporting himself with liars who are mainly interested in holding on to power. Something you are clearly fine with as long as it of a democratic administration.

So you think the Wall Street journal and the dozens of stafffers and senators who have spoken out are all just lying. Why do you think they would do that.

They lied and covered up his obvious mental failing. And then tried to get him to run again so they could maintain power.
We both know you would be throwing a fit if this was someone with a R after their name.

 

[WillyPete]

Impeachment is fine. The president should just not supporting himself with liars who are mainly interested in holding on to power. Something you are clearly fine with as long as it of a democratic administration.

So you think the Wall Street journal and the dozens of stafffers and senators who have spoken out are all just lying. Why do you think they would do that.

They lied and covered up his obvious mental failing. And then tried to get him to run again so they could maintain power.
We both know you would be throwing a fit if this was someone with a R after their name.

Biden was always too old, it's true. He wasn't a great candidate in 2020, largely because of his age. I said so then.

It just seems like you're just trying to get extra mileage out of it. He'd didn't run for re-election. What more do you think you are owed?

 

[braindrain]

Biden was always too old, it's true. He wasn't a great candidate in 2020, largely because of his age. I said so then.

It just seems like you're just trying to get extra mileage out of it. He'd didn't run for re-election. What more do you think you are owed?

You have constantly been trying to down play his mental decline and excusing all those who lied to the American people and tried to cover it up. It’s a little late to pretend otherwise now.

And I noticed you didn’t want to comment on why you think everyone who the Wall Street journal interviewed for the story was lying.

What are you talking about. He most definitely did run for reelection and only dropped out when the debate made his mental condition obvious to the whole world and no longer able to be covered up. Did you miss all that.