leftofabbie
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How hard is it to understand? American citizens and non-profits together are worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $60 trillion.
that's awesome. Too bad our unfunded liabilities are somewhere north of $100 Trillion .
Is that your opinion, or do you have some source for this "statistic".
The unfunded liability for just the Federal Government ALONE sucks up every one of those $60 Trillion worth of stuff we have
Assuming, of course, that we could sell it all, and at current market prices. Which would be, of course, impossible.
Oh, and guess what happens as we start moving forward?
I like that the conclusion of the OP is not that we should all work together to pay our fair share, but rather we all need to work together to make sure someone else does. LOL
The population of the US is about 314 million. (Source: U.S. & World Population Clocks ). That means the wealthiest 78 1/2 million people are worth about $710 million each, on average.
Therefore, the wealthiest 25% of us could pay off the national debt,
But we should all be working together to make sure those who can most afford it pay their fair share.
Is that your opinion, or do you have some source for this "statistic".
I see, you're conflating debt with future obligations. I'm talking about the national debt. Perhaps you should start another thread.
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paying off the debt this year would be pointless[/url].
You seem to be suggesting massive confiscation. It's been tried before.... a lot. Typically it results in large-scale starvation.
Not at all. Just a much more progressive tax system than we have now. Why should Mitt Romney pay a lower tax rate than you do?
Not at all. Just a much more progressive tax system than we have now. Why should Mitt Romney pay a lower tax rate than you do?
Not at all. Just a much more progressive tax system than we have now.
Why should Mitt Romney pay a lower tax rate than you do?
Out of curiosity, what affect would it have on the dollar and the world economy if we just dropped $17 trillion on the debt/certificates held by other countries?
FWIW, I pay a lower effective rate than Romney, I make less than 40k a year, and I can afford a higher tax obligation.
You shut up and know your place! You are a victim, here!!!
Romney pays a higher FIT than 97% of the country. This has been established repeatedly.
How hard is it to understand? American citizens and non-profits together are worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $60 trillion.
A cool $56 trillion of that is in the hands of the wealthiest 25% of the population. These are the folks our Republican friends in Congress keep protecting from tax increases. (Source: Wealth in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
The population of the US is about 314 million. (Source: U.S. & World Population Clocks ). That means the wealthiest 78 1/2 million people are worth about $710 million each, on average.
The US national debt is just under $16 trillion. (Source: U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time )
Therefore, the wealthiest 25% of us could pay off the national debt, and still be worth about $510 million each, again on average.
Wealth is even more concentrated as you approach the wealthiest Americans. The Koch brother increased their wealth by about $4.5 billion dollars in 2010. Each. That's net, after taxes. You would need to win a tax-free, $100 million lottery 45 different times last year to take home that much. (Source: Forbes: Koch Brothers Now Worth $50 Billion | ThinkProgress)
In fact, wealth is so concentrated that the top 10% own 71% of everything. (Source: US wealth distribution: 10% of US citizens own 70.9% of all US assets | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012 ).
Now, you can find numbers that differ a little here, some in one direction, some in another. Change the numbers in my post if you can find reputable alternatives.
But regardless of what tweaking might be done, it's pretty clear that America has plenty of wealth to meet our debts. What we may lack is the political will to do it any way except on the backs of everyday working Americans. Time will tell.
But we should all be working together to make sure those who can most afford it pay their fair share. After all, it's their assets our military, police and fire departments protect. It's their products that are shipping on the roads we pay for. It's their employees who were trained in our schools. They need to pay their fair share.
"Romney has estimated he will pay a 15.4 percent tax rate on income of $20.9 million." Source: Obama likely paid higher tax rate than Romney in 2011 | Reuters
My son earns $25K a year and pays a higher rate.
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