This is totally ridiculous. I've never understood why it is that Food Stamps exist in the first place. These people should get a pre-sorted selection of FOOD every month based on the number of adults and children in the family. I'll even be nice enough to allow for the selections to be oriented towards specific ethnic groups (Latino, Asian, etc...) within the limits that the food is healthy and nutritious, not the crap I see people buying with their EBT cards all the time.
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Wow you people really have no idea what you're talking about do you? To be on TANF you have to look for work 35 hours a week and if a job isn't obtained within a month you're assigned to a community service assignment 35+ hours a week to make well below minimum wage. There is a hotline to report welfare fraud and there is always the option of going to your loxal office and reporting it You cannot just sit on your ass and receive TANF like the old AFDC. BNot to mention that there is at least one interviee with your caseworker every week. The problem is that TANF is designed to push people into low wage jobs. You cannot go to college while on TANF and if you get a part time job working 30 hours a week you are dtstill required to job search the other 5 hours. TANF disreguards your income in incriments once a job is found. %100 for the first 3 months, 80% for the next 3 months and so on until its down to %40. So if someone starts making $3000 a month while on TANF they will still receive the cash for another year.
When these people are using tax money, the taxpayers have every right to determine what they're allowed to use it on. If the welfare recipients don't like it, they can get jobs.
Actually 'the taxpayer' doesn't mean one small group who doesn't much care for the whole concept. I don't get to say what the military buys with taxpayer money, I am however a taxpayer.
They had a sting up by us not to long ago. Caught some of these Black Ministers going into stores and buying hundreds of dollars in meats alone. Driving brand new Cars, wearing Gold Watches and jewelry. Wives all decked out and whatnot. All on the Welfare Program. Plus they have a so called Church with like 10 followers. So they don't pay taxes. But sure do live high on the Hog and others misery.
Or they just turn to crime or fraud, which a lot of them are already engaged in already. It's not that difficult to enforce, you just require them to use their EBT cards for everything, they cannot ever get a penny in cash off the cards, and spending habits are tracked. Computers are good at that kind of thing, hardly any human intervention is required. If you start seeing variances, you address them. Stores which are "charging" the cards and just giving cash back ought to be pretty easy to detect and the owners should be charged with credit card fraud.
It's not hard to do if you've got the balls to do it.
Why is the fact that they were black relevant?
Actually 'the taxpayer' doesn't mean one small group who doesn't much care for the whole concept. I don't get to say what the military buys with taxpayer money, I am however a taxpayer.
I stop on the south side of Lawton, Ok several times a month to use the ATM in Discount Foods. I have yet to buy a thing in that store. The ATM is close to the Hot Wok where I do spend cash for quick chinee take-out. The OP does a smear by proxy. No real proof how much money is used in the sin locations. More a case of the ATM in the location was used. I'm not about to say NO fraud occurs, just smear hit pieces like this are pot stirrers for those who already are in the Hallelujah Chorus.
Sounds like a bit of right wing whine over a problem all ready with a fix in the pipeline. Is the far right whiners THAT hard up for something to attack social spending during the lead-up to the next round of fighting over where the cuts come from and how deep the cuts go?
MMC- most of your OP was just poo flinging, the last bit about food stamps is not how it is here in SW OK. 'Food Stamps' are far more likely to go for fiddy cent on the dollah than double face value. Double face value just doesn't make sense-
not that a partisan hack piece needs to...eace
I'm beyond tired of liberals comparing welfare to the military. Welfare is for individual assistance and regardless if it is offered to everyone or a few that is always the case. The military is different. The military exists to protect the country itself from the threats out of outside aggression. There is no amount of greater gain for one party over another nor is there any reason to expect that it exists for the benefit of one while not for another.
If they are getting enough welfare money to spend it like this, then they are getting way too much.
I always liked this idea because I thought that it could also help curb the immigration problem we have in America. There are people crossing the border from Mexico to come here and do jobs that Americans simply refuse to do - pick fruit/vegetables, for example. These types of jobs could be the ones assigned to people on assistance, thereby pushing jobs away from illegals/immigrants and giving them back to Americans.
Link please? I'll admit that some states do things a little differently, but the reality is that NONE of what you stated is true in NY State! If I'm wrong, please show me with PROOF that what you say is true. What you are stating makes exactly zero sense both logically and practically.
Tim-
Thats how it is in NV and I know Ohio is similar. Google it.
Exactly. It's not surprising.
Welfare rations should only cover the necessities.
I am beyond tired of a few radical right whiners never seeing the massive outflow of 'taxpayer' money to cheats and frauds who are supposedly 'defending the nation'.
I am a vet of Service to the Country I KNOW what the military is SUPPOSE to be doing. Trying to dress up one of the poorest audited parts of Gubmint in some sacred robes is beyond tacky. Using the noble ideal of defense for our nation to cover massive fraud should have the noble right outraged beyond words. Oh wait, those cheats and frauds vote the same way you do... silly me. :roll:
One thing I'd like the radical right fraud hounds to latch onto are all the defense contractors who owe taxes, have been repeatedly fined but still get huge 'defense' contracts.
I am beyond tired of a few radical right whiners never seeing the massive outflow of 'taxpayer' money to cheats and frauds who are supposedly 'defending the nation'.
I am a vet of Service to the Country I KNOW what the military is SUPPOSE to be doing. Trying to dress up one of the poorest audited parts of Gubmint in some sacred robes is beyond tacky. Using the noble ideal of defense for our nation to cover massive fraud should have the noble right outraged beyond words. Oh wait, those cheats and frauds vote the same way you do... silly me. :roll:
One thing I'd like the radical right fraud hounds to latch onto are all the defense contractors who owe taxes, have been repeatedly fined but still get huge 'defense' contracts.
They don't even come close to covering necessities. Try paying rent and bills on $300-$600 per month.
Yeah, there is probably a lot of fruit picking jobs unfilled in New York City, Chicago, Boston and on and on. It's been my experience that fruits and vegetables are grown on farms rather than in cities. I've been to most big cities in the US and damned if I can recall seeing a lot of vegetable farms. Of course we could round up all these welfare recipients and ship them to Dixie and have them pick cotton. :roll: Maybe we could get you to supervise them, Massa Gipper. Ain't nothin' quite like supervising anyone doing anything that they don't want to do.
It wasn't mentione dby anyone until YOU just made it relevant? See the distinction?
Tim-
Yeah, there is probably a lot of fruit picking jobs unfilled in New York City, Chicago, Boston and on and on. It's been my experience that fruits and vegetables are grown on farms rather than in cities. I've been to most big cities in the US and damned if I can recall seeing a lot of vegetable farms. Of course we could round up all these welfare recipients and ship them to Dixie and have them pick cotton. :roll: Maybe we could get you to supervise them, Massa Gipper. Ain't nothin' quite like supervising anyone doing anything that they don't want to do.
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