'We will kill you': Brevard County sheriff, Florida attorney general speak ahead of potential protests

[Questerr]

Australian reporters are a particular favourite target of theirs.

And people just trying to walk home.

 

[VySky]

I didn't realise they're allowed to kill people the second anyone poses even the mildest threat to the police?
Why bother having a justice system and prisons?
The US could save a fortune if they just executed everyone who poses any threat to the authorities.

Which of the 3 actions the sheriff mentioned do you consider “mild”?

 

[Peter]

Which of the 3 actions the sheriff mentioned do you consider “mild”?

All of them.

Throwing a brick at the police is not a reason for a deadly response and nor is protesting.

At worst they are criminal acts that should be treated as such.
The US either has a justice system or it has a bunch of people acting like Judge Dred.

 

[VySky]

The senator was surrounded by armed police.
If they can't handle 1 guy asking a question without resorting to violence they don't deserve to be police.

The Senator can go pound sand.

 

[Peter]

The Senator can go pound sand.

I changed my reply as I assumed I was being asked about something else but I assume you now have zero problem with Republican senators being manhandled and thrown in jail for simply questioning someone at a press conference?

 

[cAPSLOCK]

All of them.

Throwing a brick at the police is not a reason for a deadly response and nor is protesting.

Just to remind you, the three were using a molotov cocktail, assaulting someone with a brick or pointing a gun at police.

At worst they are criminal acts that should be treated as such.

How do you apprehend someone who is aiming a gun at you? I am sure that every police officer in Brevard County is going to want to defuse these things rather than escalate them.

The US either has a justice system or it has a bunch of people acting like Judge Dred.

Binary thinking.

So often used here as a way to try to make a point and it's so bad.

So either we do our justice system the way you say or it's a cartoon.

 

[Peter]

Just to remind you, the three were using a molotov cocktail, assaulting someone with a brick or pointing a gun at police.

How do you apprehend someone who is aiming a gun at you? I am sure that every police officer in Brevard County is going to want to defuse these things rather than escalate them.

Binary thinking.

So often used here as a way to try to make a point and it's so bad.

So either we do our justice system the way you say or it's a cartoon.

You claim my thinking is binary while being fine with people being killed without trial.
Police killing people should be an absolute last resort when all else fails not a staring point.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

You claim my thinking is binary while being fine with people being killed without trial.

Show me where I said that. (You can't).

Police killing people should be an absolute last resort when all else fails not a staring point.

I don't think anyone here would disagree with that statement.

Here's a hypothetical. Its simple.

Say a man raises a weapon and aims it at a police officer. What should that (or other nearby) police officer do?

 

[Peter]

Show me where I said that. (You can't).

I don't think anyone here would disagree with that statement.

Here's a hypothetical. Its simple.

Say a man raises a weapon and aims it at a police officer. What should that (or other nearby) police officer do?

Firstly they should tell the person to put the gun down.
The guy also says he's going to kill protesters for throwing a brick are you OK with that as well?

Is brick throwing at an officer a capital offence that requires on the spot execution?

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Your post are full of things you "imagine"

Imagine that.

Yes, imagine it. It's what you want. And it may come true.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Firstly they should tell the person to put the gun down.

And I'm sure that there are situations in which a law enforcement officer feels that tactically is the best solution in that moment.

But drawing and aiming a firearm ( on the part of the agitator.) is already leagally using deadly force where I live. And an officer is rewuired to make a split-second decision about his safety and the safety of innocent bystanders. Using deadly force in response to that is entirely reasonable.

The guy also says he's going to kill protesters for throwing a brick are you OK with that as well?

Yes, throwing bricks is using deadly force. And if someone is endangering the lives of police or innocent bystanders, then deadly force in return is not unreasonable.

Is brick throwing at an officer a capital offence that requires on the spot execution?

In this scenario, it has nothing to do with whether or not it's a capital offense, and there is no "execution" happening here.

If someone is threatening deadly force, which throwing bricks at people most certainly is, The police are absolutely justified in neutralizing that threat and they are trained to do so in the most safe and efficient way possible. I'm also sure with an eye towards de-escalating rather than escalating.

It is a terrible position for human being to be in. But if put in that position, they must act. It's not just a TV show or a video game like you seem to think.

 

[Peter]

And I'm sure that there are situations in which a law enforcement officer feels that tactically is the best solution in that moment.

But drawing and aiming a firearm ( on the part of the agitator.) is already leagally using deadly force where I live. And an officer is rewuired to make a split-second decision about his safety and the safety of innocent bystanders. Using deadly force in response to that is entirely reasonable.


Yes, throwing bricks is using deadly force. And if someone is endangering the lives of police or innocent bystanders, then deadly force in return is not unreasonable.


In this scenario, it has nothing to do with whether or not it's a capital offense, and there is no "execution" happening here.

If someone is threatening deadly force, which throwing bricks at people most certainly is, The police are absolutely justified in neutralizing that threat and they are trained to do so in the most safe and efficient way possible. I'm also sure with an eye towards de-escalating rather than escalating.

It is a terrible position for human being to be in. But if put in that position, they must act. It's not just a TV show or a video game like you seem to think.

You seem to have an extremely casual regqrd for human life if you think throwing a brick at police requires a lethal response.

In Northern Ireland during the troubles the police and army regularly had petrol bombs and bricks thrown at them and they rarely opened fire in response.
It is possible for the police to show restraint during high pressure situations.

The guy said his officers would shoot to kill which should never be a threat by any police anywhere.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

You're still making it black and white. I'm never saying that I think police should kill people who are throwing bricks. I think they should de-escalate, disarm, and neutralize any threats that are there using the least amount of violence possible.

 

[Peter]

You're still making it black and white. I'm never saying that I think police should kill people who are throwing bricks. I think they should de-escalate, disarm, and neutralize any threats that are there using the least amount of violence possible.

The speech should see that guy lose his job.
The job of the police is to uphold the law not terrorise the people who pay them.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Essentially,

In Brevard County cluck around, find out

The expected insurrectionist have been warned.

"If you throw a brick, a fire bomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains at, because we will kill you. Graveyard, dead. We're not going to play, this has got to stop."

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'We will kill you': Brevard County sheriff, Florida attorney general speak ahead of potential protests

Law enforcement officials in Florida warned against violence during protests, emphasizing harsh consequences for threats against police.

www.firstcoastnews.com

So you oppose the constitution of the USA and favor authoritarianism?

Why?

Please explain yourself.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

The speech should see that guy lose his job.
The job of the police is to uphold the law not terrorise the people who pay them.

I would be willing to bet the vast majority of people paying his salary feel much safer after hearing what he said.

The only people that would terrorize are people who intend to aim a gun at a cop... throw a Molotov cocktail at them or try to hit them with a bricks. And frankly, if those people are afraid, I'm glad.

I'd like him to get a raise.

 

[Peter]

I would be willing to bet the vast majority of people paying his salary feel much safer after hearing what he said.

The only people that would terrorize are people who intend to aim a gun at a cop... throw a Molotov cocktail at them or try to hit them with a bricks. And frankly, if those people are afraid, I'm glad.

I'd like him to get a raise.

Wow.
I'm so , so glad you have zero say in policing anyone.
You seem to think living in a police state is the way to go.

 

[Michael Cole]

You're still making it black and white. I'm never saying that I think police should kill people who are throwing bricks. I think they should de-escalate, disarm, and neutralize any threats that are there using the least amount of violence possible.

Saying people will be killed for throwing a brick is not the way to deescalate.

 

[KingLeo]

This guy is a disgrace to all real law enforcement people.

 

[VySky]

Saying people will be killed for throwing a brick is not the way to deescalate.

What is the purpose.of throwing a brick through the windshield of an approaching LEO vehicle doing say 15-20 MPH?

Deputy sent to hospital after thrown brick crashes through windshield

An investigation is underway after a Boyle County, Kentucky deputy was injured in a crash early Sunday morning.

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Man Arrested for Allegedly Throwing Brick Through Baton Rouge Police Car

A man was arrested after throwing a brick at a Baton Rouge Police car unit. The incident happened in a parking lot on Airline Hwy.

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Leeds police officer injured as brick thrown at car

The plain clothes female police officer is being treated for serious facial injuries, police say.

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Driver Seriously Hurt After Brick Hits Car In Worcester, 4 Teens Charged

A man driving in Worcester was seriously injured when a teen threw a brick through his windshield.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Essentially,

In Brevard County cluck around, find out

The expected insurrectionist have been warned.

"If you throw a brick, a fire bomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains at, because we will kill you. Graveyard, dead. We're not going to play, this has got to stop."

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'We will kill you': Brevard County sheriff, Florida attorney general speak ahead of potential protests

Law enforcement officials in Florida warned against violence during protests, emphasizing harsh consequences for threats against police.

www.firstcoastnews.com

Really, really stupid thing to say.

Uthmeier‘s words will be used against himself and his deputies in court should any protestors be killed.

Takes 2 to tango. Maybe the dumb clucks will get the message.

Stay home. Try a kill a cop and you're going to die. At least in Brevard Co Florida.

Once a protestor throws a brick at a law enforcement officer, leaving his/her hands empty, there would be no justification for deadly force being used, as the protestor no long represents a threat.

 

[VySky]

Really, really stupid thing to say.

Uthmeier‘s words will be used against himself and his deputies in court should any protestors be killed.

Once a protestor throws a brick at a law enforcement officer, leaving his/her hands empty, there would be no justification for deadly force being used, as the protestor no long represents a threat.

What if he’s shot before brick leaves his hand?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

What if he’s shot before brick leaves his hand?

As the protestor is indicating that he/she is about to throw the brick?

Yeah, I believe the cop would have a good argument for use of deadly force.

 

[VySky]

As the protestor is indicating that he/she is about to throw the brick?

Yeah, I believe the cop would have a good argument for use of deadly force.

I believe that is the point the sheriff is making.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Saying people will be killed for throwing a brick is not the way to deescalate.

I agree with this on is face. And honestly the Sheriff came across very strongly.

But he worked up to that end point. Saying they intended to stop crime, arrest criminals, and respond to threats up to and including using deadly force.

It was a cautionary message. And one a lot of the people he is elected to protect were likely glad to hear.

People remember the events during the demonstrations, riots, fires, looting and murders between 2020-23. At least 3 dozen people were killed.

I support peaceful protest. But we already saw violence in the refent LA riots.

It is entirely reasonable to be wary about today's upcoming demonstrations.