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We need to start talking openly about breaking the country up peacefully

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In a University of Virginia poll they found 52% of Trump voters and 41% of Biden voters "somewhat agreed" with the statement that red states should secede and form our own country.

This has to happen, or it is inevitable that armed conflict will commence and escalate.

Democrats are increasingly using the force of law (unconstitutional laws) to impose their will on everyone. Democrats applaud this use of force, and can't understand why anyone would not willingly comply.

Libertarians, Republicans, and a majority of independents simply want to be left alone to make their own decisions and live their lives as they see fit.

Eventually the leftists Democrats will push too far and large segments of the population will refuse to obey.

Enforcement measures may take many forms - forced out of employment, denied food, etc. Eventually shots will be fired and the Democrats (Federal Goverment, Media, the Deep State) will turn the military on the "racist", "diseased", "xenophobic", "hate-filled Christian", extremists that populate the "red states".

Make no mistake - this is exactly where we're heading.

We need to begin having peaceful, rational, negotiations on a plan of secession before our nation descends into civil war.
 
wist43 said:
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In a University of Virginia poll they found 52% of Trump voters and 41% of Biden voters "somewhat agreed" with the statement that red states should secede and form our own country.

This has to happen, or it is inevitable that armed conflict will commence and escalate.

Democrats are increasingly using the force of law (unconstitutional laws) to impose their will on everyone. Democrats applaud this use of force, and can't understand why anyone would not willingly comply.

Libertarians, Republicans, and a majority of independents simply want to be left alone to make their own decisions and live their lives as they see fit.

Eventually the leftists Democrats will push too far and large segments of the population will refuse to obey.

Enforcement measures may take many forms - forced out of employment, denied food, etc. Eventually shots will be fired and the Democrats (Federal Goverment, Media, the Deep State) will turn the military on the "racist", "diseased", "xenophobic", "hate-filled Christian", extremists that populate the "red states".

Make no mistake - this is exactly where we're heading.

We need to begin having peaceful, rational, negotiations on a plan of secession before our nation descends into civil war.
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The only ones secession benefits are enemies of the United States.

Your persecution complex is pathetic.
 
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In a University of Virginia poll they found 52% of Trump voters and 41% of Biden voters "somewhat agreed" with the statement that red states should secede and form our own country.

This has to happen, or it is inevitable that armed conflict will commence and escalate.

Democrats are increasingly using the force of law (unconstitutional laws) to impose their will on everyone. Democrats applaud this use of force, and can't understand why anyone would not willingly comply.

Libertarians, Republicans, and a majority of independents simply want to be left alone to make their own decisions and live their lives as they see fit.

Eventually the leftists Democrats will push too far and large segments of the population will refuse to obey.

Enforcement measures may take many forms - forced out of employment, denied food, etc. Eventually shots will be fired and the Democrats (Federal Goverment, Media, the Deep State) will turn the military on the "racist", "diseased", "xenophobic", "hate-filled Christian", extremists that populate the "red states".

Make no mistake - this is exactly where we're heading.

We need to begin having peaceful, rational, negotiations on a plan of secession before our nation descends into civil war.
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"Democrats are increasingly using the force of law (unconstitutional laws) to impose their will on everyone. Democrats applaud this use of force, and can't understand why anyone would not willingly comply.

Libertarians, Republicans, and a majority of independents simply want to be left alone to make their own decisions and live their lives as they see fit."

I LOL'ed. Secede away, my friend. Don't let the door hit you!
 
MaryP said:
That's just plain silly, and I don't believe those polls. There's a trick in there somewhere.
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I know a lot of people that want to secede.

For anyone who believes in limited government and liberty, America has become a very dangerous place.
 
wist43 said:
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In a University of Virginia poll they found 52% of Trump voters and 41% of Biden voters "somewhat agreed" with the statement that red states should secede and form our own country.

This has to happen, or it is inevitable that armed conflict will commence and escalate.

Democrats are increasingly using the force of law (unconstitutional laws) to impose their will on everyone. Democrats applaud this use of force, and can't understand why anyone would not willingly comply.

Libertarians, Republicans, and a majority of independents simply want to be left alone to make their own decisions and live their lives as they see fit.

Eventually the leftists Democrats will push too far and large segments of the population will refuse to obey.

Enforcement measures may take many forms - forced out of employment, denied food, etc. Eventually shots will be fired and the Democrats (Federal Goverment, Media, the Deep State) will turn the military on the "racist", "diseased", "xenophobic", "hate-filled Christian", extremists that populate the "red states".

Make no mistake - this is exactly where we're heading.

We need to begin having peaceful, rational, negotiations on a plan of secession before our nation descends into civil war.
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This is not good.
Now if you Break up America in to The People who want to Follow the Constitution and Stay a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC,
and those who want to Become a "Democracy" !
Then YES!!!!! Let's do that ! And in a few years The Democracy will fall in to Chaos and look like Seattle did during the Antifa/BLM Riots !!!

Here's a short Video that explains why America was Designed as it was ! And the DEM's still don't get it ! They are going to be like Greece , but worse...

 
SCrider said:
And how will fantasy land survive?
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Well, those us living in freedom will sell you energy and food - things you won't produce on your own.

;)
 
wist43 said:
I know a lot of people that want to secede.

For anyone who believes in limited government and liberty, America has become a very dangerous place.
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Are you a southerner? Where are you folks planning on living? Your own Constitution, currency, trade agreements, military, IRS FDA, EPA, etc? ARE YOU NUTS?

I don't necessarily like how big and cumbersome the government has become, but technology has allowed it to keep an eye on us more and more, and no one can put that genie back in the bottle. Unless you are a bonafide white supremacist, you have no reason to feel so threatened, but the leaders on the right seem to want everyone to think they're losing their liberty, even though they aren't.

Tell me one freedom that has been taken away from you by our government in your lifetime. Specifically.
 
NoMoreDems-Reps said:
This is not good.
Now if you Break up America in to The People who want to Follow the Constitution and Stay a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC,
and those who want to Become a "Democracy" !
Then YES!!!!! Let's do that ! And in a few years The Democracy will fall in to Chaos and look like Seattle did during the Antifa/BLM Riots !!!

Here's a short Video that explains why America was Designed as it was ! And the DEM's still don't get it ! They are going to be like Greece , but worse...

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Well, the leftists are destroying our country right before our eyes - yet, they see none of it.

We're well within sight of collapse, but they just keep pushing on the accelerator - there's no point trying to reason with irrational people.

Leftists rarely let people escape their control. They will kill before they will let anyone leave, and live in peace.
 
wist43 said:
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In a University of Virginia poll they found 52% of Trump voters and 41% of Biden voters "somewhat agreed" with the statement that red states should secede and form our own country.

This has to happen, or it is inevitable that armed conflict will commence and escalate.
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"somewhat agreed" becomes "this has to happen"? LOL... Un no.
wist43 said:
Democrats are increasingly using the force of law (unconstitutional laws) to impose their will on everyone. Democrats applaud this use of force, and can't understand why anyone would not willingly comply.
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Unconstitutional laws?
wist43 said:
Libertarians, Republicans, and a majority of independents simply want to be left alone to make their own decisions and live their lives as they see fit.
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Except when it comes to women and their reproductive choices.
wist43 said:
Eventually the leftists Democrats will push too far and large segments of the population will refuse to obey.

Enforcement measures may take many forms - forced out of employment, denied food, etc. Eventually shots will be fired and the Democrats (Federal Goverment, Media, the Deep State) will turn the military on the "racist", "diseased", "xenophobic", "hate-filled Christian", extremists that populate the "red states".
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Cool. Perhaps you guys should take the jab, stop the misinformation, comply with laws that are on the books, don't pull any more insurrections, and try to be citizens.
wist43 said:
Make no mistake - this is exactly where we're heading.

We need to begin having peaceful, rational, negotiations on a plan of secession before our nation descends into civil war.
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Nah...

We're not dividing the nation. You can leave whenever you like.
 
Demon said:
That would be fun to see. They haven't done so well with things like Gettr.
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I'd let you check it out and report back to us.
 
They can have Idaho and Texas
 
wist43 said:
- there's no point trying to reason with irrational people.
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And you're arguing that thereshould be be negotiations why exactly in light of this statement you've just made?

If you consider the other side "irrational" and beyond reason....

It is funny that "your side" believes an election was stolen (there is no proof), that the vaccine is dangerous (there is no proof) and that BLM and ANTIFA members pulled off the 1/6 riot (there is no proof) and you're calling the other side "irrational".
 
wist43 said:
...We need to begin having peaceful, rational, negotiations on a plan of secession before our nation descends into civil war.
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I don't believe threatening armed conflict and civil war unless we start talking openly about conservative states seceding from the union, is peaceful or rational. Didn't we already go through this crap?...
 
wist43 said:
Democrats are increasingly using the force of law (unconstitutional laws) to impose their will on everyone. Democrats applaud this use of force, and can't understand why anyone would not willingly comply.
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Well that's bullshit. Republicans hold most of the States and as you know, State power is substantial. Dems can barely do anything with their 0 vote majority in the US Senate.

Unconstitutional laws barely exist, as a Federal judge would put an injunction on them right away.

But go on, talk "seriously" about secession. Like it's just a game and wouldn't result in millions of deaths ...
 
wist43 said:
I know a lot of people that want to secede.

For anyone who believes in limited government and liberty, America has become a very dangerous place.
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If you don't like it, leave it. :)
 
TRUMP of course would be their first Dictator For Life. He's probably got another 10 years in him.
I laugh to think of what an election would be like in this conservative utopia. Echoes of 1960's USSR. They can't see it.
 
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