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[jaeger19]

Your opinion noted, the majority in this country disagree with you. It was the Reagan tax cuts and cheerleading that led us out of the recession. He worked with the Congress not against it. He didn't demonize his opposition nor did he micro manage the economy like Carter tried to do. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury show your statement that he spent money like a madman is nothing more than a lie. His record benefited all Americans, 17 million jobs created, doubling of GDP, the peace dividend, and a 60% increase in FIT revenue showing that you can cut taxes and grow income tax revenue.

Sorry, but the recession in 81-82 affected more Americans than this one because of the high inflation. The recovery was quicker because of leadership not a "I won, you lost" mentality. You debunked nothing.

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Nope..Reagan tax cuts and "cheerleading" did not lead us out of the recession.. Seriously.. you think "cheerleading" is what motivates the US economy. Gosh.. do you even think about what you are saying.
He did spend like a madman.. where do you think all those nukes came from during the cold war? Reagans piggy bank?

When Reagan became president -- and began to cut taxes -- the federal deficit was 2.5 percent of the national economy. When he left, eight years later, the deficit was 5 percent of the economy.

If Reagans tax cut.. had grown revenue relative to the deficit then the deficit should have been LESS of a percentage of the economy, but it was not.

The fact is that when it comes to the economy Reagan benefited from the ability to increase government spending, and he benefited from an already strong economy that benefited from the easing of interest rates from the FED.

I have debunked you completely.

 

[mak2]

They werent trees. Maybe that is the problem (or at least one of them) with the conservatives, all that matter is the economy (money). Dont waste your pity on me.

The economic results as well as the Cold War seem to escape you. Obviously you don't give a damn about the electorate either who gave Reagan almost 60% of the vote in 1984. I do feel sorry for people like you though, so fixated with an event that you cannot see the forest because of the trees.

 

[mak2]

Just weird, aint it?

Republicans don't care a whit about those 231 who died in Beirut, but haven't stopped blaming Obama personally for the events of Benghazi for 14 months.

 

[Conservative]

They werent trees. Maybe that is the problem (or at least one of them) with the conservatives, all that matter is the economy (money). Dont waste your pity on me.

So tell me, who did you vote for in 1980 and 1984 to establish your credibility? Your outrage over Reagan and his actions or in your case of inaction is misguided at best as a full investigation showed he didn't do anything wrong but there were lapses in military leadership. You ought to read the report.

 

[mak2]

Come on man.

So tell me, who did you vote for in 1980 and 1984 to establish your credibility? Your outrage over Reagan and his actions or in your case of inaction is misguided at best as a full investigation showed he didn't do anything wrong but there were lapses in military leadership. You ought to read the report.

 

[Conservative]

Come on man.

Pretty reasonable request, you seem reluctant to answer. Could it be you weren't old enough then to really understand what happened in Beirut?

 

[Porchev]

The economic results as well as the Cold War seem to escape you. Obviously you don't give a damn about the electorate either who gave Reagan almost 60% of the vote in 1984. I do feel sorry for people like you though, so fixated with an event that you cannot see the forest because of the trees.

Since you mentioned 1984, I am reminded what a crazy landslide that was; here is the 1984 Electoral map:

 

[Porchev]

Pretty reasonable request, you seem reluctant to answer. Could it be you weren't old enough then to really understand what happened in Beirut?

Not to speak for him, but I think he mentioned earlier that he was guarding F-18s or something in southern California. [Perhaps at the Marine Corps Air Station that used to be in El Toro (I used to live near there).]

 

[Conservative]

Not to speak for him, but I think he mentioned earlier that he was guarding F-18s or something in southern California. [Perhaps at the Marine Corps Air Station that used to be in El Toro (I used to live near there).]

Been there many times, and saw the post however not sure he meant he was guarding the F-18's at the same time as the Beirut incident. Too bad he doesn't remember how bad the economy was during that period of time and how the American people were hurting. That is why I question when he was there. The economic conditions were a disaster for ALL Americans due to the high misery index, Foreclosures were setting records, high inflation created high interest rates that affected home ownership and credit card rates. There was an economic malaise that I had never seen before then came Reagan and his positive pro growth economic policies and the results speak for themselves.

Reagan came into office at the right time. His second term wasn't nearly as successful but the benefits he generated in his first term overcame the damage done by his assassination attempt as well as onset of Alzheimer's. He was the right man in the right place at the right time. Too bad Obama learned nothing from the Reagan years.

 

[Porchev]

Nope..Reagan tax cuts and "cheerleading" did not lead us out of the recession.. Seriously.. you think "cheerleading" is what motivates the US economy. Gosh.. do you even think about what you are saying.
He did spend like a madman.. where do you think all those nukes came from during the cold war? Reagans piggy bank?

If Reagans tax cut.. had grown revenue relative to the deficit then the deficit should have been LESS of a percentage of the economy, but it was not.

The fact is that when it comes to the economy Reagan benefited from the ability to increase government spending, and he benefited from an already strong economy that benefited from the easing of interest rates from the FED.

I have debunked you completely.

Just because you say it is debunked does not make it so.

"...As the Joint Economic Committee reported in April 2000:

In 1981, newly elected President Ronald Reagan refocused fiscal policy on the long run. He proposed, and Congress passed, sharp cuts in marginal tax rates. The cuts increased incentives to work and stimulated growth. These were fundamental policy changes that provided the foundation for the Great Expansion that began in December 1982.

As Exhibit 1 shows, the economic record of the last 17 years is remarkable, particularly when viewed against the backdrop of the 1970s. The United States has experienced two of the longest and strongest expansions in our history back to back. They have been interrupted only by a shallow eight-month downturn in 1990-91...."

The Real Reagan Economic Record: Responsible and Successful Fiscal Policy

 

[Conservative]

Nope..Reagan tax cuts and "cheerleading" did not lead us out of the recession.. Seriously.. you think "cheerleading" is what motivates the US economy. Gosh.. do you even think about what you are saying.
He did spend like a madman.. where do you think all those nukes came from during the cold war? Reagans piggy bank?



If Reagans tax cut.. had grown revenue relative to the deficit then the deficit should have been LESS of a percentage of the economy, but it was not.

The fact is that when it comes to the economy Reagan benefited from the ability to increase government spending, and he benefited from an already strong economy that benefited from the easing of interest rates from the FED.

I have debunked you completely.

Spoken likes someone who doesn't understand leadership and economic activity. You seem to have no concept of what the economy was like when Reagan took office and thus ignore the Reagan results. 17 million jobs, doubling of GDP, 60% growth in Federal Income Tax revenue showing you can cut federal income taxes and grow income tax revenue, and creating the destruction of the Soviet Union leaving us with a peace dividend, one squandered. You can see the results at BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the Treasury Dept. but why would you waste your time going there?

Defense spending was an investment and that is what created the peace dividend.

As for cheerleading, that is something a good leader always does. Reagan promoted the American spirit, unleashed a new sense of pride in this country, and returned the nation to an era of prosperity and strong economic growth, and pride of ownership. I was in my late 30's and early 40's during the Reagan term, lived it and worked it. Apparently debunking is something you don't understand.

 

[mak2]

IS the economy the only measure of a hero for you?

Spoken likes someone who doesn't understand leadership and economic activity. You seem to have no concept of what the economy was like when Reagan took office and thus ignore the Reagan results. 17 million jobs, doubling of GDP, 60% growth in Federal Income Tax revenue showing you can cut federal income taxes and grow income tax revenue, and creating the destruction of the Soviet Union leaving us with a peace dividend, one squandered. You can see the results at BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the Treasury Dept. but why would you waste your time going there?

Defense spending was an investment and that is what created the peace dividend.

As for cheerleading, that is something a good leader always does. Reagan promoted the American spirit, unleashed a new sense of pride in this country, and returned the nation to an era of prosperity and strong economic growth, and pride of ownership. I was in my late 30's and early 40's during the Reagan term, lived it and worked it. Apparently debunking is something you don't understand.

 

[Conservative]

IS the economy the only measure of a hero for you?

Nope, ending the cold war and restoring respect for this country in the world means a lot as well but without a strong economy nothing else really matters. I have the greatest respect for our military, already stated my opinion on Beirut, my father was at Pearl Harbor, My Father in law was at Normandy, I had three family members serve in Iraq. I find it quite telling the military support for Reagan even after Beirut.

 

[APACHERAT]

The America Reagan inherited, failed Democrat policies.

Remember the gas lines ? I remember sitting in line for six frickin hours and limited to buying only 5 gallons.

But Gov. Jerry Brown in California had a solution to shorten the gas lines. "Odd-Even" If the first numerical digit on your license plate was odd you could buy gas. Even numbers on the next day. No gas cans were allowed to be filled or off to the county jail.



Typical gas line seen all across America when Carter was POTUS.

 

[mak2]

Is the economy your only measure of a Republican hero?

The America Reagan inherited, failed Democrat policies.

Remember the gas lines ? I remember sitting in line for six frickin hours and limited to buying only 5 gallons.

But Gov. Jerry Brown in California had a solution to shorten the gas lines. "Odd-Even" If the first numerical digit on your license plate was odd you could buy gas. Even numbers on the next day. No gas cans were allowed to be filled or off to the county jail.

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Typical gas line seen all across America when Carter was POTUS.

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[rocket88]

Is the economy your only measure of a Republican hero?

Just the Republican part is his measure of a hero.

 

[mak2]

Yea, that is right, Bush II screwed the economy big time, and is still a hero.

Just the Republican part is his measure of a hero.

 

[Porchev]

Is the economy your only measure of a Republican hero?

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No, because Reagan did great things for the military. It was in sad shape when he took office but by the time he left it was amazing. He was big on building up the military and that build up helped us easily win Operation Desert Storm and other operations after that.

 

[APACHERAT]

Is the economy your only measure of a Republican hero?

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No.

Reagan brought back respect to our military.

Liberals stopped making slurs to those who they assumed were in the military because of their short hair. During the 70's you didn't go off base wearing the uniform.

Reagan inherited a hollow military force and rebuilt it that would win one of the shortest and most successful wars in America's history, the First Gulf War.

GPS, even liberals like GPS units in their cars today. The Democrats fought funding for developing GPS for the Navy every step of the way. Reagan with the help of Sen. Qual got the Senate to fund developing GPS.

In general, Americans started feeling better about themselves and the healing over the Vietnam war began.

The world again respected America and our enemies were held in awe.

And Ronald Reagan won the Cold War.

But the economy was a major issue. Double digit inflation. Double digit interest rates. Only the rich who paid cash could afford to make a major purchase. Interest rates were too damn high for everyone else.

And the the war against Disco was also won during the Reagan years.

 

[mak2]

Oh, thank God he killed disco, I might have to reconsider. I shipped to boot camp on 4 Nov 80, it wasn't Reagan that ended the cold war and the Iranian hostage situation, l it was because I got out of boot camp, they did nt want no part of this....

No.

Reagan brought back respect to our military.

Liberals stopped making slurs to those who they assumed were in the military because of their short hair. During the 70's you didn't go off base wearing the uniform.

Reagan inherited a hollow military force and rebuilt it that would win one of the shortest and most successful wars in America's history, the First Gulf War.

GPS, even liberals like GPS units in their cars today. The Democrats fought funding for developing GPS for the Navy every step of the way. Reagan with the help of Sen. Qual got the Senate to fund developing GPS.

In general, Americans started feeling better about themselves and the healing over the Vietnam war began.

The world again respected America and our enemies were held in awe.

And Ronald Reagan won the Cold War.

But the economy was a major issue. Double digit inflation. Double digit interest rates. Only the rich who paid cash could afford to make a major purchase. Interest rates were too damn high for everyone else.

And the the war against Disco was also won during the Reagan years.

 

[APACHERAT]

Yea, that is right, Bush II screwed the economy big time, and is still a hero.

To early for revisionism to blame Bush. It was liberal policies that led to the housing crisis which led to the financial institution crisis.

Remember the Community Reinvestment Act that Jimmy Carter signed into law and the corrupt arm of the Democrat Party known as ACORN would demand that banks during the G.W. Bush administration approve sub-prime loans to people who they knew could never make the payments or ACORN would label the banks as being racist and call for investigations. That's was the cause of "The Great Recession."
The recession ended in June of 2009. But Obama's policies has prevented a recovery from the recession. Four years later and over a 7% unemployment rate and a 1.5% GDP. :lamo I know, nothing to be laughing about. But is this going to be the new norm for America ? How much longer can the Feds continue to propping up Obama's sick economy ?

 

[Kobie]

To early for revisionism to blame Bush. It was liberal policies that led to the housing crisis which led to the financial institution crisis.

Remember the Community Reinvestment Act that Jimmy Carter signed into law and the corrupt arm of the Democrat Party known as ACORN would demand that banks during the G.W. Bush administration approve sub-prime loans to people who they knew could never make the payments or ACORN would label the banks as being racist and call for investigations. That's was the cause of "The Great Recession."
The recession ended in June of 2009. But Obama's policies has prevented a recovery from the recession. Four years later and over a 7% unemployment rate and a 1.5% GDP. :lamo I know, nothing to be laughing about. But is this going to be the new norm for America ? How much longer can the Feds continue to propping up Obama's sick economy ?

Constantly repeating that the financial crisis was All Democrats' Fault doesn't make it true, APACHE.

 

[APACHERAT]

Oh, thank God he killed disco, I might have to reconsider. I shipped to boot camp on 4 Nov 80, it wasn't Reagan that ended the cold war and the Iranian hostage situation, l it was because I got out of boot camp, they did nt want no part of this....

According to most of the world leaders when the Berlin Wall came down, Reagan got the credit.

Hey mak2, you got first hand experience of the rebuilding the Marine Corps during the Reagan years. Did you stick it out to see the final product in 1988 ? The best trained, equipped Corps in history.

You must have personaly experienced when they took that piece of #### pea shooter known as the M-16 A1 from you and issued you another piece of #### pea shooter known as the M-16 A2. Better than the A1 but not a real Marine infantry rifle like the M-1 Garand or M-14.

 

[APACHERAT]

Constantly repeating that the financial crisis was All Democrats' Fault doesn't make it true, APACHE.

You need to spend more time reading Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" than wasting your time on the DP. It worked for Obama.

 

[APACHERAT]

No, because Reagan did great things for the military. It was in sad shape when he took office but by the time he left it was amazing. He was big on building up the military and that build up helped us easily win Operation Desert Storm and other operations after that.

I concur Porchev.

When President G.H. Bush went to war, he went to war with Reagan's military.