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Nearly half of the population has a lower than average IQ. A distance relative by-marriage and his wife are in the slow learner category with the wife also on full (legitimate) disability. He works hard - outdoor physical labor. As he ages the work gets harder for him She stayed home taking care of the children. The shutdown eliminated his income and school shutdown threw all such child burdens on her - all as they increasingly struggled economically - in the middle of government ordered social isolation. The endless 24/7 bio-terrorism on television and all but FOX presenting a hopeless view of the future.

We learned she committed suicide. 50 oxys plus a bottle of vodka.

I blame most of you. YOU agreed to drive them in economic desperation, social isolation and put burdens on them they never faced before.

While there are many things I prefer about white American culture, but since the non-stop 24/7 bioterrorism campaign of the super rich, I have been stunned by your total worship of the propaganda ministers of the richest people on earth, your total love of slavery made products of the super rich, your willingness to be mindless servants of the super rich to your own harm and that of the country - and overall level of cowardice and living in fear for most is beyond anything I could imagine possible for any living creature.

Absurdly accepting that WalMart stores are safe, but small mom-pop stores, churches and family picnics are not. To actually believe putting on homemade or cheap masks - NONE that meet ANY standards and if from any major company literally warn the masks do not meet any standards nor offer any protection against viruses - will save you when even the labeling of the masks tell you it won't. To actually believe virus instantly die when they become 6 feet away from the host. To destroy tens of millions of American families and tens of thousands of businesses and all their jobs - all because the propaganda ministers of the super rich tell you to for their own profiting trillions, eliminating their competition permanently, and to fully take over.

Anything the propaganda ministries of the super rich - MSM, press, Internet - tell you for their benefit, you bow down worshiping them as your gods. It would take them 2 minutes to have over half of you killing yourself after killing your family. Total slaves. Mindless cowards.

The father has no ability to raise the children on his own - also slow learners and 2 of the three disabled. The oldest, a teen and not disabled, has disappeared with no idea where. It is clear to us he is now arranging his own suicide - selling off everything so he doesn't leave the children with nothing as his reason. Couldn't even have a funeral service. Virtual funeral? He doesn't have Internet. Technology is beyond his intellectual ability.

We are trying to talk him thru this, thru his now complete lonely isolation and hopeless situation - they married since high school and the only friend and adult voice in his life he had. But we know that no one else gives a damn.

Meanwhile, the Democrats in Congress continue to refuse to allow $1 of assistance to such as him unless the Republicans agree to pay the massive pensions and sanctuary of illegal immigrants costs of Democratic Party run states - literally claiming that nobody gets anything unless they get over a trillion dollars for themselves. The Democratic Party is certain the more lives they destroy the better it is in their quest for power - like the corporate fascists they truly are - and nearly all Democrats on this forum are.

This is the Democratic Party's future for the USA - what it will mean to be an average America - edicts for all but the rich to be desperate servants and slaves, begging the super rich for money via the government to buy foreign non-white slave made products sold by those super rich billionaires. Every aspect of your life controlled. What you may not say and most say dictated to you. Where you may and may not go controlled. Everything you do, everywhere you go, watched and recorded. Everyone dependent on the government, fighting each other for crumbs off the table of the super rich you so completely worship and vow your lives and that of your children and this country too.

Any of you who believe the propaganda ministers on the MSM and press give a damn about you or the USA are truly idiots. They don't work for you. You don't pay their 6 and 7 figure salaries. You are NOTHING but sheep and cattle to them, 330,000,000 people, the majority of which are cowardly idiots and voluntary chumps and fools. Voluntary slaves. Slaves who love slave made products - so then you are superior white slaves to those non-white foreign sweatshop slaves.

Her suicide death definitely should be counted as a covid-19 death - or at least a covid-19 bioterrorism campaign of the richest people on earth death with many of you their allies and servants on their mission of death-for profit.
 

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Nearly half of the population has a lower than average IQ. A distance relative by-marriage and his wife are in the slow learner category with the wife also on full (legitimate) disability. He works hard - outdoor physical labor. As he ages the work gets harder for him She stayed home taking care of the children. The shutdown eliminated his income and school shutdown threw all such child burdens on her - all as they increasingly struggled economically - in the middle of government ordered social isolation. The endless 24/7 bio-terrorism on television and all but FOX presenting a hopeless view of the future.

We learned she committed suicide. 50 oxys plus a bottle of vodka.

I blame most of you. YOU agreed to drive them in economic desperation, social isolation and put burdens on them they never faced before.

While there are many things I prefer about white American culture, but since the non-stop 24/7 bioterrorism campaign of the super rich, I have been stunned by your total worship of the propaganda ministers of the richest people on earth, your total love of slavery made products of the super rich, your willingness to be mindless servants of the super rich to your own harm and that of the country - and overall level of cowardice and living in fear for most is beyond anything I could imagine possible for any living creature.

Absurdly accepting that WalMart stores are safe, but small mom-pop stores, churches and family picnics are not. To actually believe putting on homemade or cheap masks - NONE that meet ANY standards and if from any major company literally warn the masks do not meet any standards nor offer any protection against viruses - will save you when even the labeling of the masks tell you it won't. To actually believe virus instantly die when they become 6 feet away from the host. To destroy tens of millions of American families and tens of thousands of businesses and all their jobs - all because the propaganda ministers of the super rich tell you to for their own profiting trillions, eliminating their competition permanently, and to fully take over.

Anything the propaganda ministries of the super rich - MSM, press, Internet - tell you for their benefit, you bow down worshiping them as your gods. It would take them 2 minutes to have over half of you killing yourself after killing your family. Total slaves. Mindless cowards.

The father has no ability to raise the children on his own - also slow learners and 2 of the three disabled. The oldest, a teen and not disabled, has disappeared with no idea where. It is clear to us he is now arranging his own suicide - selling off everything so he doesn't leave the children with nothing as his reason. Couldn't even have a funeral service. Virtual funeral? He doesn't have Internet. Technology is beyond his intellectual ability.

We are trying to talk him thru this, thru his now complete lonely isolation and hopeless situation - they married since high school and the only friend and adult voice in his life he had. But we know that no one else gives a damn.

Meanwhile, the Democrats in Congress continue to refuse to allow $1 of assistance to such as him unless the Republicans agree to pay the massive pensions and sanctuary of illegal immigrants costs of Democratic Party run states - literally claiming that nobody gets anything unless they get over a trillion dollars for themselves. The Democratic Party is certain the more lives they destroy the better it is in their quest for power - like the corporate fascists they truly are - and nearly all Democrats on this forum are.

This is the Democratic Party's future for the USA - what it will mean to be an average America - edicts for all but the rich to be desperate servants and slaves, begging the super rich for money via the government to buy foreign non-white slave made products sold by those super rich billionaires. Every aspect of your life controlled. What you may not say and most say dictated to you. Where you may and may not go controlled. Everything you do, everywhere you go, watched and recorded. Everyone dependent on the government, fighting each other for crumbs off the table of the super rich you so completely worship and vow your lives and that of your children and this country too.



Her suicide death definitely should be counted as a covid-19 death - or at least a covid-19 bioterrorism campaign of the richest people on earth death with many of you their allies and servants on their mission of death-for profit.

I don't mean to sounds callous but:

"The father has no ability to raise the children on his own "

Then why the heck did he have kids?? Sorry but why should I take the blame for someone who had children they were not prepared to raise? I think this family needs a lot of mental health access and support but that would be socialism, and that is bad right?
 

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I don't mean to sounds callous but:

"The father has no ability to raise the children on his own "

Then why the heck did he have kids?? Sorry but why should I take the blame for someone who had children they were not prepared to raise? I think this family needs a lot of mental health access and support but that would be socialism, and that is bad right?

Ah, blame him. :roll:

Nearly half the population is in some category of slow learner. I suppose you want all them sterilized because they are not prepared to raise a family as a single parent on government ordered zero income like YOU demand in hundreds of messages on this forum.

You're smart. Tell how a person can raise and family on government ordered poverty? They were doing fine until the super rich successfully obtained converting the USA to a totalitarian plutocracy.

Your "socialism" drove her to suicide and destroyed that family. Until people like you and your propagandists and totalitarian heroes declared they and such as you should have total control to destroy their lives for their and your benefit they were doing just fine. You and your team sacrificed them for yourself.

He had even paid off their house last year. It's not much for than a shack, but he made it a very livable home. He worked his ass off in any weather outdoors to provide for his family - a super family guy, his family everything to him - his treasure. I've posted before how much progressives hate children and demand everyone focus their life on a having a career working as servants of mega corporations or the government. To most progressive Democrats, only fools have children. SMART people live to serve their job and corporation. Might even be able to buy a new Mercedes as your treasure if you serve the rich well enough. The concept that a person's treasure is their children and they'll give up a new Mercedes to have them is outrageous and ignorant to most progressives - ie corporate fascists.

Now he's said he is selling the house - the type of house that can't be refinanced - so the children won't have nothing (we are trying to talk him out of it). While his suicide talk in convoluted, it is transparent. He knows he can not do this on his own. Neither have life insurance, and it seems - without saying it - he hopes to at least leave some money for the kids...

... all which you write off by claiming he should have known someday he might find himself a single parent with the government ordering him into no-income poverty" - meaning somehow he should have known people like you some day would take over his life using the government to destroy his life and his family. I agree that people on the bottom half of the IQ curve are unlike to have ever been able to predict how dangerous people like you and your's would become to them.

Post that attack against poor black people - how they shouldn't have children rather than whining about their economic situation since that also is how you feel, isn't it?
 

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Ah, blame him. :roll:

Nearly half the population is in some category of slow learner. I suppose you want all them sterilized because they are not prepared to raise a family as a single parent on government ordered zero income like YOU demand in hundreds of messages on this forum.

You're smart. Tell how a person can raise and family on government ordered poverty? They were doing fine until the super rich successfully obtained converting the USA to a totalitarian plutocracy.

Your "socialism" drove her to suicide and destroyed that family. Until people like you and your propagandists and totalitarian heroes declared they and such as you should have total control to destroy their lives for their and your benefit they were doing just fine. You and your team sacrificed them for yourself.

He had even paid off their house last year. It's not much for than a shack, but he made it a very livable home. He worked his ass off in any weather outdoors to provide for his family - a super family guy, his family everything to him - his treasure. I've posted before how much progressives hate children and demand everyone focus their life on a having a career working as servants of mega corporations or the government. To most progressive Democrats, only fools have children. SMART people live to serve their job and corporation. Might even be able to buy a new Mercedes as your treasure if you serve the rich well enough. The concept that a person's treasure is their children and they'll give up a new Mercedes to have them is outrageous and ignorant to most progressives - ie corporate fascists.

Now he's said he is selling the house - the type of house that can't be refinanced - so the children won't have nothing (we are trying to talk him out of it). While his suicide talk in convoluted, it is transparent. He knows he can not do this on his own. Neither have life insurance, and it seems - without saying it - he hopes to at least leave some money for the kids...

... all which you write off by claiming he should have known someday he might find himself a single parent with the government ordering him into no-income poverty" - meaning somehow he should have known people like you some day would take over his life using the government to destroy his life and his family. I agree that people on the bottom half of the IQ curve are unlike to have ever been able to predict how dangerous people like you and your's would become to them.

Post that attack against poor black people - how they shouldn't have children rather than whining about their economic situation since that also is how you feel, isn't it?

Yes, people should be informed and educated about the risks of having children when they are not financially or mentally capable. Is that so bad?

It's not that I blame him, our system is not set up to actually educate people on the realities of children or provide sufficient mental health. I think we should spend more money to provide that kind of education and help. I've been in his shoes, a feeling of helplessness and suicidal - YOU are in the position to help him so get off the internet and go do something for him instead of attacking others.
 

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Yes, people should be informed and educated about the risks of having children when they are not financially or mentally capable. Is that so bad?

It's not that I blame him, our system is not set up to actually educate people on the realities of children or provide sufficient mental health. I think we should spend more money to provide that kind of education and help. I've been in his shoes, a feeling of helplessness and suicidal - YOU are in the position to help him so get off the internet and go do something for him instead of attacking others.

We are doing what we can. We arranges a funeral. Paid for it. Are on the phone day and night (he is on the other side of the country), though a distant relative we had little communication with prior.

They were doing just fine until people like you took over their lives.

If you mean people should be warned of the extreme dangers of socialists and fascists such as your team? Educated that the Democratic Party is the worst enemy the United States and they have? Definitely. But in fact, schools teach the exact opposite.

You point out the hatred and contempt progressives have for ordinary salt-of-the-earth people such as they are/were. Probably over half of all working Americans are in as precarious or worse situation. You despise those people. Destroy their lives with socialistic edicts - and then blame them for the total change of the rules. Why not blame Jews for the holocaust because they didn't have enough money and smarts to to escape. Same attack you make, isn't it?
 

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Since she did not have CV19 her death should not be counted as a death by CV19.

As far as blaming a generic "you", not buying it. Where were their family and friends to help them out?
 

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Nearly half of the population has a lower than average IQ. A distance relative by-marriage and his wife are in the slow learner category with the wife also on full (legitimate) disability. He works hard - outdoor physical labor. As he ages the work gets harder for him She stayed home taking care of the children. The shutdown eliminated his income and school shutdown threw all such child burdens on her - all as they increasingly struggled economically - in the middle of government ordered social isolation. The endless 24/7 bio-terrorism on television and all but FOX presenting a hopeless view of the future.

We learned she committed suicide. 50 oxys plus a bottle of vodka.

I blame most of you. YOU agreed to drive them in economic desperation, social isolation and put burdens on them they never faced before.

While there are many things I prefer about white American culture, but since the non-stop 24/7 bioterrorism campaign of the super rich, I have been stunned by your total worship of the propaganda ministers of the richest people on earth, your total love of slavery made products of the super rich, your willingness to be mindless servants of the super rich to your own harm and that of the country - and overall level of cowardice and living in fear for most is beyond anything I could imagine possible for any living creature.

Absurdly accepting that WalMart stores are safe, but small mom-pop stores, churches and family picnics are not. To actually believe putting on homemade or cheap masks - NONE that meet ANY standards and if from any major company literally warn the masks do not meet any standards nor offer any protection against viruses - will save you when even the labeling of the masks tell you it won't. To actually believe virus instantly die when they become 6 feet away from the host. To destroy tens of millions of American families and tens of thousands of businesses and all their jobs - all because the propaganda ministers of the super rich tell you to for their own profiting trillions, eliminating their competition permanently, and to fully take over.

Anything the propaganda ministries of the super rich - MSM, press, Internet - tell you for their benefit, you bow down worshiping them as your gods. It would take them 2 minutes to have over half of you killing yourself after killing your family. Total slaves. Mindless cowards.

The father has no ability to raise the children on his own - also slow learners and 2 of the three disabled. The oldest, a teen and not disabled, has disappeared with no idea where. It is clear to us he is now arranging his own suicide - selling off everything so he doesn't leave the children with nothing as his reason. Couldn't even have a funeral service. Virtual funeral? He doesn't have Internet. Technology is beyond his intellectual ability.

We are trying to talk him thru this, thru his now complete lonely isolation and hopeless situation - they married since high school and the only friend and adult voice in his life he had. But we know that no one else gives a damn.

Meanwhile, the Democrats in Congress continue to refuse to allow $1 of assistance to such as him unless the Republicans agree to pay the massive pensions and sanctuary of illegal immigrants costs of Democratic Party run states - literally claiming that nobody gets anything unless they get over a trillion dollars for themselves. The Democratic Party is certain the more lives they destroy the better it is in their quest for power - like the corporate fascists they truly are - and nearly all Democrats on this forum are.

This is the Democratic Party's future for the USA - what it will mean to be an average America - edicts for all but the rich to be desperate servants and slaves, begging the super rich for money via the government to buy foreign non-white slave made products sold by those super rich billionaires. Every aspect of your life controlled. What you may not say and most say dictated to you. Where you may and may not go controlled. Everything you do, everywhere you go, watched and recorded. Everyone dependent on the government, fighting each other for crumbs off the table of the super rich you so completely worship and vow your lives and that of your children and this country too.

Any of you who believe the propaganda ministers on the MSM and press give a damn about you or the USA are truly idiots. They don't work for you. You don't pay their 6 and 7 figure salaries. You are NOTHING but sheep and cattle to them, 330,000,000 people, the majority of which are cowardly idiots and voluntary chumps and fools. Voluntary slaves. Slaves who love slave made products - so then you are superior white slaves to those non-white foreign sweatshop slav[/B]

You've clearly got the first sentence right.
 

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Nearly half of the population has a lower than average IQ. A distance relative by-marriage and his wife are in the slow learner category with the wife also on full (legitimate) disability. He works hard - outdoor physical labor. As he ages the work gets harder for him She stayed home taking care of the children. The shutdown eliminated his income and school shutdown threw all such child burdens on her - all as they increasingly struggled economically - in the middle of government ordered social isolation. The endless 24/7 bio-terrorism on television and all but FOX presenting a hopeless view of the future.

We learned she committed suicide. 50 oxys plus a bottle of vodka.

I blame most of you. YOU agreed to drive them in economic desperation, social isolation and put burdens on them they never faced before.



This is the Democratic Party's future for the USA - what it will mean to be an average America - edicts for all but the rich to be desperate servants and slaves, begging the super rich for money via the government to buy foreign non-white slave made products sold by those super rich billionaires. Every aspect of your life controlled. What you may not say and most say dictated to you. Where you may and may not go controlled. Everything you do, everywhere you go, watched and recorded. Everyone dependent on the government, fighting each other for crumbs off the table of the super rich you so completely worship and vow your lives and that of your children and this country too.

Any of you who believe the propaganda ministers on the MSM and press give a damn about you or the USA are truly idiots. They don't work for you. You don't pay their 6 and 7 figure salaries. You are NOTHING but sheep and cattle to them, 330,000,000 people, the majority of which are cowardly idiots and voluntary chumps and fools. Voluntary slaves. Slaves who love slave made products - so then you are superior white slaves to those non-white foreign sweatshop slaves.

Her suicide death definitely should be counted as a covid-19 death - or at least a covid-19 bioterrorism campaign of the richest people on earth death with many of you their allies and servants on their mission of death-for profit.

I'm sorry for your family's loss, Joko.
 

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We are doing what we can. We arranges a funeral. Paid for it. Are on the phone day and night (he is on the other side of the country), though a distant relative we had little communication with prior.

They were doing just fine until people like you took over their lives.

If you mean people should be warned of the extreme dangers of socialists and fascists such as your team? Educated that the Democratic Party is the worst enemy the United States and they have? Definitely. But in fact, schools teach the exact opposite.

You point out the hatred and contempt progressives have for ordinary salt-of-the-earth people such as they are/were. Probably over half of all working Americans are in as precarious or worse situation. You despise those people. Destroy their lives with socialistic edicts - and then blame them for the total change of the rules. Why not blame Jews for the holocaust because they didn't have enough money and smarts to to escape. Same attack you make, isn't it?

Your attitude shows that you are one of those "slow learners" you speak about. You are blaming Govt. for the wrong thing. Instead of the reality that our Govt. failed to protect us from a worldwide pandemic and our leaders lied to us about the dangers, you claim the measures we did take to avoid millions of deaths is the problem. Yes there are casualties from this virus that do not include being infected but that does not mean that the uncontrolled spread of this disease is not to blame.
 

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By "you" I mean generically, not any particular member. I appreciate those commenting even though I may strongly disagree.

What the super rich have sold for their massive profit and power increase is so absurd it does prove the raw power of total control of information - ie non-stop propaganda.

It goes beyond the true adsurdity that the safest place to be is in a WalMart store with thousands of people a day to buy Chinese sweatshop made clothing, while outlawing mom and pop clothing stores with 20 customers a day. To declare mass protests are covid-19, but political rallies are death traps.

Non-stop they claim that they can tell exactly where everyone was infected with covid-19 - and it is where ever with whoever they hate. Churches are death traps, but pot shops are covid-19 free. I could go on.

In this, paying tens of thousands of dollars for any death called a covid-19 death even without testing nor any auditing of any kind, it has been declared that exactly nothing in life at all - other than protesting Trump - matters than reducing the chance of being infected by covid-19. Being made homeless - irrelevant. No food - irrelevant. Suicide - irrelevant. No schooling - irrelevant. Outlawing socializing - irrelevant. Denied treatment for cancer, COPD or any other medical condition - irrelevant. THE SINGULARLY PURPOSE OF LIFE is reducing your chance of contacting covid-19...

... unless you are rich, powerful or important and then none of that matters and they are exempt. The total isolation, permanent shut down Joe Biden is portraying is horrifyingly oppressive totalitarianism to reduce people to accept they are nothing but slaves and sheep of the super rich and HIM in government. Joe Biden is campaigning by offering YOU to buy his ticket to hell on earth he promises to create.

To declare homemade and cheap masks protect people - when exactly NO study has ever supported that claim in any way. The absurdity that covid-19 dies in the air within 6 feet.

As for members of this forum? Why should any of you give a damn? I did a poll asking if any of you are financially suffering from this - and the answer was none if I remember correctly. So it's just been a little extra free money for most of you. So what if tens of millions of families have no income, are forced into isolation etc? If you can pick up a couple thousand dollars or more for free, so what if 40 million people's lives are shattered? You got extra money to buy more non-white slave labor Chinese products in WalMart and on Amazon as your duty to the richest people alive.

Why do you even pretend you care about poor illegal immigrants and their children? They should have known that being in a poor, oppressive country and themselves with no education they should have never had any children in the first place. Once again we see that most progressives are anti-American and pro-illegal immigrant.

Blame the government? The government works for the super rich who tell them - just like they tell you - want to think, do, not do, say and not say thru their ministers of propaganda on their information outlets they totally control.
 
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Your attitude shows that you are one of those "slow learners" you speak about.

You are blaming Govt. for the wrong thing. Instead of the reality that our Govt. failed to protect us from a worldwide pandemic and our leaders lied to us about the dangers, you claim the measures we did take to avoid millions of deaths is the problem. Yes there are casualties from this virus that do not include being infected but that does not mean that the uncontrolled spread of this disease is not to blame.

Sweden proved you wrong. Proved the propaganda ministers of the super rich that control you thoughts, actions, words and emotions have non-stop lied to you. They lie to us every day and every night for one single reason - their employers, the richest people and corporations on earth making trillions of dollars extra by such propaganda. If you can name a reason why and television propagandist/commentator should give a the slightest damn about you, what would that be? Name ONE you think would give up their income and be off TV to contradict the wishes of their super rich employers.
 

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Sweden proved you wrong. Proved the propaganda ministers of the super rich that control you thoughts, actions, words and emotions have non-stop lied to you. They lie to us every day and every night for one single reason - their employers, the richest people and corporations on earth making trillions of dollars extra by such propaganda. If you can name a reason why and television propagandist/commentator should give a the slightest damn about you, what would that be? Name ONE you think would give up their income and be off TV to contradict the wishes of their super rich employers.

Sweden proved themselves wrong about the virus. You must worship death.

It is too soon for a full reckoning of the effects of the Swedish model. The COVID-19 death rate is nine times higher than in Finland, nearly five times higher than in Norway, and more than twice as high as in Denmark. To some degree, the numbers might reflect Sweden’s much larger immigrant population, but the stark disparities with its Nordic neighbors are nonetheless striking. Denmark, Norway, and Finland all imposed rigid lockdown policies early on, with strong, active political leadership.

Now that COVID-19 is running rampant through nursing homes and other communities, the Swedish government has had to backpedal. Others who may be tempted by the “Swedish model” should understand that a defining feature of it is a higher death toll.

Grim truth of the ‘Swedish model’ | The Japan Times
 
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Sweden proved themselves wrong about the virus. You must worship death.



Grim truth of the ‘Swedish model’ | The Japan Times

You really have to cherry pick countries going back to APRIL for that blog.

Care to compare Sweden to New York? Of course not. But then Sweden did not order covid-19 infected people into nursing homes nor destroy their economy and millions of people's lives, employment and businesses on behalf of the richest people and corporations on earth you so love. Sweden's suicide rate has not increased.

From September, not your April article...

Sweden Now Has a Lower COVID-19 Death Rate Than the US. Here’s Why It Matters
Sweden's "lighter touch" COVID-19 strategy looks stronger with every passing week.

Sweden Now Has a Lower COVID-19 Death Rate Than the US. Here’s Why It Matters - Foundation for Economic Education
 
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