Was John Lennon a communist?

[aociswundumho]

No.

Sure he wrote imagine, which lyrically, is a pile of collectivist bullshit. But he also wrote revolution, which is anti-revolutionary. That matters because people aren't going to vote to lower their standard of living, and that's what socialism does. If you are anti-revolutionary, then there's no point in being a socialist because you are eliminating the only way to make it happen.

When John wrote imagine, he had an entire room in his manhattan penthouse dedicated to storing his fur coats. This was a guy who clearly enjoyed the fruits of capitalism.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

No.

Sure he wrote imagine, which lyrically, is a pile of collectivist bullshit. But he also wrote revolution, which is anti-revolutionary. That matters because people aren't going to vote to lower their standard of living, and that's what socialism does. If you are anti-revolutionary, then there's no point in being a socialist because you are eliminating the only way to make it happen.

When John wrote imagine, he had an entire room in his manhattan penthouse dedicated to storing his fur coats. This was a guy who clearly enjoyed the fruits of capitalism.

I think Lennon would classify himself a “peacenik” in the 70’s. I think, by the late 70’s until his death in 1980, he’d not classify himself with any distinct political philosophy. He’d likely vote Democrat, but he wouldn’t call himself one.

 

[NJBob]

Well, he sure didn’t like Nixon.

 

[SkyChief]

Was John Lennon a communist?

Of course he was.

duh.

Clearly, Lennon did not believe in private property. The whole point of Communism is to abolish private property:

"The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property." - Karl Marx

 

[craig]

No.

Sure he wrote imagine, which lyrically, is a pile of collectivist bullshit. But he also wrote revolution, which is anti-revolutionary. That matters because people aren't going to vote to lower their standard of living, and that's what socialism does. If you are anti-revolutionary, then there's no point in being a socialist because you are eliminating the only way to make it happen.

When John wrote imagine, he had an entire room in his manhattan penthouse dedicated to storing his fur coats. This was a guy who clearly enjoyed the fruits of capitalism.

It sounds like the Christian afterlife.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people
Livin' for today
Ah
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

 

[Grand Mal]

No.

Sure he wrote imagine, which lyrically, is a pile of collectivist bullshit. But he also wrote revolution, which is anti-revolutionary. That matters because people aren't going to vote to lower their standard of living, and that's what socialism does. If you are anti-revolutionary, then there's no point in being a socialist because you are eliminating the only way to make it happen.

When John wrote imagine, he had an entire room in his manhattan penthouse dedicated to storing his fur coats. This was a guy who clearly enjoyed the fruits of capitalism.

You say you want a revolution?
Well you know we all wanna change the world.
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out.

If you want money for people with minds that hate
Let me tell you brother you'll have to wait

But when you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You know you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

Obviously John Lennon was no communist. You lot just want to pretend that leftist equals communist.

 

[Grand Mal]

It sounds like the Christian afterlife.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people
Livin' for today
Ah
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

COMMUNISM!

 

[VySky]

No.

Sure he wrote imagine, which lyrically, is a pile of collectivist bullshit. But he also wrote revolution, which is anti-revolutionary. That matters because people aren't going to vote to lower their standard of living, and that's what socialism does. If you are anti-revolutionary, then there's no point in being a socialist because you are eliminating the only way to make it happen.

When John wrote imagine, he had an entire room in his manhattan penthouse dedicated to storing his fur coats. This was a guy who clearly enjoyed the fruits of capitalism.

He and Jane Fonda would have made a great couple.

 

[RF667799]

Of course he was.

duh.

Clearly, Lennon did not believe in private property. The whole point of Communism is to abolish private property:

"The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property." - Karl Marx

He believed in his own private property. He wasn't exactly living like the unwashed masses when he was killed.

 

[Felis Leo]

No.

Sure he wrote imagine, which lyrically, is a pile of collectivist bullshit. But he also wrote revolution, which is anti-revolutionary. That matters because people aren't going to vote to lower their standard of living, and that's what socialism does. If you are anti-revolutionary, then there's no point in being a socialist because you are eliminating the only way to make it happen.

When John wrote imagine, he had an entire room in his manhattan penthouse dedicated to storing his fur coats. This was a guy who clearly enjoyed the fruits of capitalism.

He was definitely some form of socialist.

 

[Grand Mal]

He and Jane Fonda would have made a great couple.

What a stupid post.

 

[RF667799]

Imagine sucks. Lennon gives a nod to everything but the system that made him wealthy beyond his wildest dreams.

 

[anatta]

As Lennon later explained to Sheff, the (Dick Gregory )book afforded him with the key concept about the nature of “positive
prayer” that would inform the composition of “Imagine.” “If you can imagine a world at peace,
with no denominations of religion--not without religion, but without this ‘my God-is-bigger-
than-your-God’ thing--then it can be true.”

https://www.loc.gov/static/programs/national-recording-preservation-board/documents/imagine.pdf

 

[RF667799]

As Lennon later explained to Sheff, the (Dick Gregory )book afforded him with the key concept about the nature of “positive
prayer” that would inform the composition of “Imagine.” “If you can imagine a world at peace,
with no denominations of religion--not without religion, but without this ‘my God-is-bigger-
than-your-God’ thing--then it can be true.”

https://www.loc.gov/static/programs/national-recording-preservation-board/documents/imagine.pdf

I can buy that.

 

[Grand Mal]

Imagine sucks. Lennon gives a nod to everything but the system that made him wealthy beyond his wildest dreams.

Lennon was a brilliant artist. The system that made him wealthy was the recording industry that made his art available to ordinary people. Music is the most available of all the arts because of the recording and broadcasting industries.
You got a problem with that?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Well, he was an accomplished musician and lyricist. A person who will be remembered LONG AFTER those who want to mock him have been forgotten.
I mean, seriously? Even if he was, SO FRIGGIN' WHAT? Don't like his outlook on life? Who gives a you-know-what what you think?

Sure he wrote imagine, which lyrically, is a pile of collectivist bullshit.

A massive best seller that still strikes a cord with people. AND what have you written lately that anyone will remember?

Clearly, Lennon did not believe in private property. The whole point of Communism is to abolish private property:

Maybe he didn't. I don't profess to read his mind. I mean.........

COMMUNISM!

Imagine sucks. Lennon gives a nod to everything but the system that made him wealthy beyond his wildest dreams.

A song has got you THIS triggered? Want me to post songs written by Elvis (In The Ghetto) or any number of songs written in the 60s or 70s? Songs that drive you over the edge because of the lyrics???
I am an atheist and I love some Christian themed songs. Why? Beautifully written. Betcha "Give Peace A Chance" sends you over the edge too.

Lennon was a brilliant artist. The system that made him wealthy was the recording industry that made his art available to ordinary people. Music is the most available of all the arts because of the recording and broadcasting industries.
You got a problem with that?

Yeah, BUT.......................................... Lennon was a COMMUNIST!!

 

[RF667799]

A song has got you THIS triggered? Want me to post songs written by Elvis (In The Ghetto) or any number of songs written in the 60s or 70s? Songs that drive you over the edge because of the lyrics???
I am an atheist and I love some Christian themed songs. Why? Beautifully written. Betcha "Give Peace A Chance" sends you over the edge too.

Do you mind if I like what music I like?

 

[aociswundumho]

A massive best seller that still strikes a cord with people.

Sure, but "imagine no possessions" coming from a guy who had a fur coat collection indicates to me that "no possessions" is something he'd have a lot of trouble imagining in real life.

AND what have you written lately that anyone will remember?

Nothing, just like you.

Maybe he didn't. I don't profess to read his mind. I mean.........

He was materialistic, so he did believe in private property.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Sure, but "imagine no possessions" coming from a guy who had a fur coat collection indicates to me that "no possessions" is something he'd have a lot of trouble imagining in real life.



Nothing, just like you.



He was materialistic, so he did believe in private property.

Get over it. It is a song. Don't like it? Fine, I don't like country music. I don't whine about it. I also would never call any woman wundumho.
But if whining about a song is what you have to spend your evening doing, well, then do it. Who cares?

 

[Michael Cole]

Post-Beatles. Excellent song. Are withdrawals communist? Was Yoko a commie?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Post-Beatles. Excellent song. Is withdrawal communist? Is Yoko a commie?

Yoko was definitely a commie, just look at her. And John was a long haired hippie freak.

 

[aociswundumho]

Get over it. It is a song. Don't like it?

Actually I do like it. Some friendly advice: you should read a bit more carefully before shitting yourself.

Fine, I don't like country music. I don't whine about it.

WHAT! How could you not like country music? Listen to this and then tell me you don't like country music:

 

[vanceen]

John thought very broadly, but not very deeply. I doubt he was ever committed enough to call himself a communist.

 

[Jessie C]

Well, he was an accomplished musician and lyricist. A person who will be remembered LONG AFTER those who want to mock him have been forgotten.
I mean, seriously? Even if he was, SO FRIGGIN' WHAT? Don't like his outlook on life? Who gives a you-know-what what you think?


A massive best seller that still strikes a cord with people. AND what have you written lately that anyone will remember?


Maybe he didn't. I don't profess to read his mind. I mean.........



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A song has got you THIS triggered? Want me to post songs written by Elvis (In The Ghetto) or any number of songs written in the 60s or 70s? Songs that drive you over the edge because of the lyrics???
I am an atheist and I love some Christian themed songs. Why? Beautifully written. Betcha "Give Peace A Chance" sends you over the edge too.


Yeah, BUT.......................................... Lennon was a COMMUNIST!!

Bar none best post in this thread, thanks @SNOWFLAKE!

 

[Lycanthrope]

I miss the 80's when the right saw Satanists under every bush. Now everyone without Cheeto stains on their lips is a KOMMANYST!