Was Elaine Chao a "DEI" Hire?

[Kblaster49]

Kamala was such a failure as AG

that her popularity even in CA was lower than most of the other primary candidates.

Her ranking in the Senate, a race she "won" without even being opposed by a candidate from the Republican party,

was "most politically left" of all 100 senators.

She accomplished absolutely nothing in 4 years as a Senator and

then, while VP, had more than 90% of her staff turn over.

Links?

 

[Luckyone]

With all due respect to the "who did she sleep with" crowd in this thread, Chao was the Labor Secretary under Bush. She was also president of the United Way. Calling her a "DEI hire" exposes EXACTLY the misunderstanding of the term that I pointed out. Trump brought in Chao because she had a background at the Cabinet level and, to the best of my knowledge, he never referred to her merely as "an Asian woman".

Let me put my "two cents worth" in here.

The U.S. is built in diversity and as such, a diversified cabinet, Supreme Court, Judges, etc., are needed.

Hiring the "best for the job" is nice but then again, this country has a lot of "good people" and Biden saying he was going to choose a "Black" woman for the Supreme Court without naming who he was thinking of is not important. It is not important because there are a lot of Black woman Judges that can be considered good and among them he can choose the best. In considering that perhaps there was someone better for the position that was White or male, or even a Black man is secondary. Diversification is primary because we need people of all genders, colors, and beliefs so that we can have them be fair across the board.

That is why Biden did that.

Take a look at the difference. This is Biden's Cabinet.



There is a bit of everything and spread evenly across the board and they are all capable people.

On the other side of the coin, here is Trump's cabinet:



There is 1 "token" Black, and 3 "token" women, one of which is Mitch McConnell's wife, which is mostly being political. In this cabinet, there is NO WAY that all Americans are going to be treated equally.

Get off your high horse and understand that common sense regarding the benefit of all Americans is the #1 priority. Being the best is only #2.

By the way, Trump NEVER hired the best. He has the biggest turnover in presidential history. 85% of the people he hired either left or were fired. The only ones that stayed were because they did what Trump told them to do.................and Trump is far from the best at anything.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Let me explain, "DEI Hire" to you. When Biden touts his appointment of "a black woman" to the Supreme Court without so much as mentioning her name, much less her accomplishments, that's a DEI hire. If the ONLY thing that matters when you hire someone is some racial, ethnic or gender attribute then you've got yourself a DEI hire.

You haven't answered the question.

Is this a DEI hire?

The right has been 'tres rapide' to accuse the left of pretty much 100% grift in all hiring, that NO ONE is picked on merits so it is incumbent on you to demonstrate the "merits" of this.

Too often I've seen in here right wing members allude to sexual favors in a female hire. Is not not fair to raise the question when the shoe is on the other foot?

 

[Geoist]

Kamala was such a failure as AG that her popularity even in CA was lower than most of the other primary candidates.

She was not a 'failure' as AG. You are being hyperbolic. Did police departments like her? No. And I wouldn't want my AG to be chummy with PDs! Most of the criticism against her come from progressives who feel she did not do enough on their behalf.

Her ranking in the Senate, a race she "won" without even being opposed by a candidate from the Republican party, was "most politically left" of all 100 senators.

Even more reason to like her.

She accomplished absolutely nothing in 4 years as a Senator and then, while VP, had more than 90% of her staff turn over.

What has JD Vance accomplished?

You literally voted for president a reality show star with ZERO political experience. You are in no position to criticize the resume of any politician.

 

[Lutherf]

Let me put my "two cents worth" in here.

The U.S. is built in diversity and as such, a diversified cabinet, Supreme Court, Judges, etc., are needed.

Hiring the "best for the job" is nice but then again, this country has a lot of "good people" and Biden saying he was going to choose a "Black" woman for the Supreme Court without naming who he was thinking of is not important. It is not important because there are a lot of Black woman Judges that can be considered good and among them he can choose the best. In considering that perhaps there was someone better for the position that was White or male, or even a Black man is secondary. Diversification is primary because we need people of all genders, colors, and beliefs so that we can have them be fair across the board.

That is why Biden did that.

Take a look at the difference. This is Biden's Cabinet.

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There is a bit of everything and spread evenly across the board and they are all capable people.

On the other side of the coin, here is Trump's cabinet:

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There is 1 "token" Black, and 3 "token" women, one of which is Mitch McConnell's wife, which is mostly being political. In this cabinet, there is NO WAY that all Americans are going to be treated equally.

Get off your high horse and understand that common sense regarding the benefit of all Americans is the #1 priority. Being the best is only #2.

By the way, Trump NEVER hired the best. He has the biggest turnover in presidential history. 85% of the people he hired either left or were fired. The only ones that stayed were because they did what Trump told them to do.................and Trump is far from the best at anything.

Right. The most important thing in America is that out government looks like a Benneton advertisement. Competence isn't necessary. What is necessary is that we look like we're racially and gender diverse. I TOTALLY hear you clucking.

 

[Luckyone]

Kamala was such a failure as AG that her popularity even in CA was lower than most of the other primary candidates. Her ranking in the Senate, a race she "won" without even being opposed by a candidate from the Republican party, was "most politically left" of all 100 senators. She accomplished absolutely nothing in 4 years as a Senator and then, while VP, had more than 90% of her staff turn over.

Failure as AG? You need to expand on this and show exactly what kind of a failure she was. The ONLY thing I have found that was criticized about her is that she had a "punitive first approach". That is not being a bad AG, it is being a harsh AG.

You need to explain your statement

 

[Lutherf]

She was not a 'failure' as AG. You are being hyperbolic. Did police departments like her? No. And I wouldn't want my AG to be chummy with PDs! Most of the criticism against her come from progressives who feel she did not do enough on their behalf.



Even more reason to like her.



What has JD Vance accomplished?

You literally voted for president a reality show star with ZERO political experience. You are in no position to criticize the resume of any politician.

Yeah, I did vote for Trump in 2016. He was pretty far from my first choice but when it came to a woman that was bound and determined to nullify the 2nd Amendment through executive action and SCOTUS appointments or a guy that was less likely to do that I went with Trump. Turns out he did a pretty god job!

 

[Geoist]

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There is 1 "token" Black, and 3 "token" women, one of which is Mitch McConnell's wife, which is mostly being political. In this cabinet, there is NO WAY that all Americans are going to be treated equally.

Still makes me chuckle they put in that one token black man in the Administration and then handed him the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Oh, Carson has zero experience in urban development? He's gotta know something about it, he's black!

 

[Plasmaball]

Kamala was such a failure as AG that her popularity even in CA was lower than most of the other primary candidates. Her ranking in the Senate, a race she "won" without even being opposed by a candidate from the Republican party, was "most politically left" of all 100 senators. She accomplished absolutely nothing in 4 years as a Senator and then, while VP, had more than 90% of her staff turn over.

Irrelevant to the topic at hand. You are just moving the goal posts because the comment you made was just a total failure.

 

[Geoist]

Yeah, I did vote for Trump in 2016. He was pretty far from my first choice but when it came to a woman that was bound and determined to nullify the 2nd Amendment through executive action and SCOTUS appointments

Gun-humping Republicans already went into freak out mode with Obama, insisting he would take away their guns. He didn't. He did nothing close to a national ban. You guys just live in irrational fear.

or a guy that was less likely to do that I went with Trump. Turns out he did a pretty god job!

Historians agree he's the worst/one of the worst presidents of all time.

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest​

 

[Luckyone]

Right. The most important thing in America is that out government looks like a Benneton advertisement. Competence isn't necessary. What is necessary is that we look like we're racially and gender diverse. I TOTALLY hear you clucking.

First of all and if you read my post correctly, I NEVER said anything about competence not being important. I said diversity is #1 and competence is #2. There are 98 Black Women judges in the U.S.. Do you mean to say that among those 98 there are no competent ones?

In addition, the Supreme Court has 9 judges. Do you honestly think that 1 Black woman judge is going to make a difference? The Supreme Court makes judgements by majority, meaning that 5 out of the 9 judges have to agree. Using your own degrading mentality, do you think one "incompetent" person can change that?

 

[Lutherf]

First of all and if you read my post correctly, I NEVER said anything about competence not being important. I said diversity is #1 and competence is #2. There are 98 Black Women judges in the U.S.. Do you mean to say that among those 98 there are no competent ones?

In addition, the Supreme Court has 9 judges. Do you honestly think that 1 Black woman judge is going to make a difference? The Supreme Court makes judgements by majority, meaning that 5 out of the 9 judges have to agree. Using your own degrading mentality, do you think one "incompetent" person can change that?

Diversity is #1 and competence is #2...swell. I sure hope you never have to rely on anyone that was hired on the #1 basis instead of the #2 basis. I don't even pick my barber based on "diversity first", much less my mechanic, my financial advisor, my doctor or anything else when my goal is to get the job done right.

 

[americanwoman]

Let me explain, "DEI Hire" to you. When Biden touts his appointment of "a black woman" to the Supreme Court without so much as mentioning her name, much less her accomplishments, that's a DEI hire. If the ONLY thing that matters when you hire someone is some racial, ethnic or gender attribute then you've got yourself a DEI hire.

I truly don't think it would matter if that happened on your side which I think a better comparison than Chao would have been Sarah Palin. She was chosen because of her gender, therefore a "DEI hire" in your book yet if McCain would have won, not run for reelection, and then Palin as VP decided to run you would not be saying anything about her being a "DEI hire".

 

[Lutherf]

I truly don't think it would matter if that happened on your side which I think a better comparison than Chao would have been Sarah Palin. She was chosen because of her gender, therefore a "DEI hire" in your book yet if McCain would have won, not run for reelection, and then Palin as VP decided to run you would not be saying anything about her being a "DEI hire".

Yes, McCain picked Palin because she was female....and then submarined her as soon as she got more popular than him.

 

[Luckyone]

Diversity is #1 and competence is #2...swell. I sure hope you never have to rely on anyone that was hired on the #1 basis instead of the #2 basis. I don't even pick my barber based on "diversity first", much less my mechanic, my financial advisor, my doctor or anything else when my goal is to get the job done right.

You are in charge of YOUR life and as such, you have a right to pick whoever you want/like/feel is the best for YOU. Being president, you are not picking for yourself but for everyone in the country. Totally different thing.

 

[americanwoman]

Yes, McCain picked Palin because she was female....and then submarined her as soon as she got more popular than him.

So you think Palin was just a DEI hire too?

 

[Callen]

Yes, McCain picked Palin because she was female....and then submarined her as soon as she got more popular than him.

McCain submarined her? In what universe? She was a disaster as a candidate

 

[Lutherf]

You are in charge of YOUR life and as such, you have a right to pick whoever you want/like/feel is the best for YOU. Being president, you are not picking for yourself but for everyone in the country. Totally different thing.

Oh, OK. Well, as long as the fire department, police department, tax agencies and all the rest of the government pick the people that best represent the ethnic, racial and gender demographics of the nation I guess we have nothing to worry about! I mean, what could government possibly **** up?

 

[Lutherf]

So you think Palin was just a DEI hire too?

Yes. I also think Palin proved her value after being so picked. Heck, I think Ketanji Brown Jackson has proved her value. Just because you're a DEI hire doesn't mean you can't succeed but it damned sure isn't some kind of guarantee and it's about the LAST criteria that should be used in hiring.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Yes, McCain picked Palin because she was female....and then submarined her as soon as she got more popular than him.

Wow!

Sarah Palin out polled McCain!

I bet you don't have the actual figures on that "win".....

I'm betting its like most of your posts - total bullshit.

Sarah Pallin could not have out polled Lex Luthor at that time, she was the butt of 10,000 jokes and a regular in every comics routine. I've heard three comedians committed suicide when she retired from public view, it dried up their material.

A Vice presidential candidate who spent more on one pair of shoes than the cost of a heart transplant! She wore them once!

Yeah America's sweetheart! The only poll she led in was who should be deported fist!

 

[Queen Margo]

MAGAs can't even answer whether Kamala considering a white man for VP is a DEI hire. They are not honest people.

I answered. Sheesh. quit your lies!

 

[phoenix2020]

Diversity is #1 and competence is #2...swell. I sure hope you never have to rely on anyone that was hired on the #1 basis instead of the #2 basis. I don't even pick my barber based on "diversity first", much less my mechanic, my financial advisor, my doctor or anything else when my goal is to get the job done right.

Biden’s cabinet was more competent and more diverse than Trump’s. Trump’s cabinet was a revolving door of incompetent, mostly white males. I think it is time that America move beyond giving roles they are unqualified for to white males solely because of their skin color, gender and willingness to lick Donald’s shoes, which of course are the qualifiers he looks out for.

 

[Craig234]

DEI in her case is Dollars nEpotism Influence.

 

[Geoist]

I answered. Sheesh. quit your lies!

THIS is an answer?

Believe me, Harris would love nothing more to have rank over a white man.

 

[Luckyone]

Oh, OK. Well, as long as the fire department, police department, tax agencies and all the rest of the government pick the people that best represent the ethnic, racial and gender demographics of the nation I guess we have nothing to worry about! I mean, what could government possibly **** up?

It is really hypocritical of you to say this. Trump did not pick the best for anything. He said he was going to pick the best but he was not able to do that as he had to fire many of them for doing a bad job and and those that had some competence but refused to do what he said, they quit, given that he wanted them to do what he wanted and they did not feel that was the best for the nation. Trump stopped them from doing their best.

To have you put up this kind of a post is totally hypocritical. You require others to do what you think should be done but then, do not ask that of the person you support and will vote for.

Do you have any principles? You are like the person that criticizes your father for cheating on your mother while you yourself are cheating on your wife.