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[W:843] How religious thinking works

Ouroboros said:
Prior to modern science, no atheists could support their opinions with evidence as to the world's independence from godly phenomena. If early atheists couldn't support their opinions, then they were no better than the opinions of people who did believe. Nothing has made Modern Atheism persuasive except for the preponderance of scientific information.
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Atheism does not require science at all. It does not require evidence.
 
Rich2018 said:
It's claimed resurrection is impossible unless the soul is immortal....are you sayings dogs have a soul?
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That is not true...God can bring anyone back to life He so chooses...He created life in the 1st place...soul is not a separate being from the body...living beings, animal or man, are living souls, dead beings, animal or man, are dead souls...Jehovah has the power to kill a person/soul, He has the power to bring them back to life...there is not one case in the entire Scriptures, Hebrew and Greek, in which the words, nephesh/Hebrew for soul or psykhe/Greek for soul, are described by terms such as immortal, indestructible, imperishable, deathless...

Matthew 10:28 states, "And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna."
 
RAMOSS said:
And?? Out of the great apes, bonobo's and chimps can 'interbreed, yet they are different species. Lions and tigers can 'interbeed' yet are diferent species. Horses and donkeys can interbreed, although their offspring is almost invariably sterile
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I've already stated that I'm aware of exceptions. Clearly the exceptions are so few that they should prove the rule, except to a poster determined to make up for his poorly worded statements with a lot of niggling.
 
devildavid said:
Wrong again.
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And you're the expert on being wrong. Also known as neener, neener, neener.

Are any of the alleged intellectuals here capable of debating matters of substance?
 
Ouroboros said:
I've already stated that I'm aware of exceptions. Clearly the exceptions are so few that they should prove the rule, except to a poster determined to make up for his poorly worded statements with a lot of niggling.
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Yet, this shows you do not know the difference between species and families, or anything about taxonomy.
 
RAMOSS said:
Yet, this shows you do not know the difference between species and families, or anything about taxonomy.
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Since you're maintaining that (a) members of the same species can interbreed, yet (b) humans and apes are of the same species even though they can't interbreed, clearly it's your understanding that's deficient.
 
Ouroboros said:
Since you're maintaining that (a) members of the same species can interbreed, yet (b) humans and apes are of the same species even though they can't interbreed, clearly it's your understanding that's deficient.
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Oh dear. If I were you I would read up on the subject before you carry on.
 
Ouroboros said:
Since you're maintaining that (a) members of the same species can interbreed, yet (b) humans and apes are of the same species even though they can't interbreed, clearly it's your understanding that's deficient.
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You are misrepresenting what I said. A 'great ape' is not a species designation. Why do you keep on misrepresenting things? WHat is the purpose of this dishonesty?
 
zyzygy said:
Oh dear. If I were you I would read up on the subject before you carry on.
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I'm perfectly willing to allow the rest of you to stop embarrassing yourselves, but you insist on parading your ignorance.
 
RAMOSS said:
You are misrepresenting what I said. A 'great ape' is not a species designation. Why do you keep on misrepresenting things? WHat is the purpose of this dishonesty?
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"A great ape" is not any sort of designation, so your use of it is mere blather, to which I have not responded before now.

EDIT: It does have a certain application in TARZAN OF THE APES, so I guess that's where your info comes from.
 
Ouroboros said:
"A great ape" is not any sort of designation, so your use of it is mere blather, to which I have not responded before now.

EDIT: It does have a certain application in TARZAN OF THE APES, so I guess that's where your info comes from.
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No, that appears to be your source.
 
Ouroboros said:
"A great ape" is not any sort of designation, so your use of it is mere blather, to which I have not responded before now.

EDIT: It does have a certain application in TARZAN OF THE APES, so I guess that's where your info comes from.
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Let's quote the dictonary

Great Ape | Definition of Great Ape by Merriam-Webster

Definition of great ape

: any of several large primates including the orangutan, gorilla, chimpanzee, and bonobo that are either placed in the same family (Hominidae) as humans or are grouped in a separate family (Pongidae)
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Do you wish to continue to embarrass yourself?

And, let's look at a biology dictionary.. just for giggles.

Great ape - Biology-Online Dictionary | Biology-Online Dictionary

oun, plural: great apes

Any of the apes belonging to the family Hominidae, such as chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans, and humans
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Isn't it amazing how we ignorant people know the dictionary definition of great ape?
 
Elvira said:
That is not true...God can bring anyone back to life He so chooses
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So can anyone who has the resurrection stone, so that's no biggie.

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Elvira said:
That is not true...God can bring anyone back to life He so chooses...He created life in the 1st place...soul is not a separate being from the body...living beings, animal or man, are living souls, dead beings, animal or man, are dead souls...Jehovah has the power to kill a person/soul, He has the power to bring them back to life...there is not one case in the entire Scriptures, Hebrew and Greek, in which the words, nephesh/Hebrew for soul or psykhe/Greek for soul, are described by terms such as immortal, indestructible, imperishable, deathless...

Matthew 10:28 states, "And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna."
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One of the problems the Christian church has (including off shoots like the JW and the Mormons) is the strong disagreement they have between denominations.

Why don't Christian churches believe the same thing(s)?
Is the Bible not clear enough?

Does the JW believe that god made man vulnerable to disease and other animals (like the River Blindness worm being able to penetrate human skin) after the fruit from the forbidden tree was eater?
 
Rich2018 said:
One of the problems the Christian church has (including off shoots like the JW and the Mormons) is the strong disagreement they have between denominations.

Why don't Christian churches believe the same thing(s)?
Is the Bible not clear enough?

Does the JW believe that god made man vulnerable to disease and other animals (like the River Blindness worm being able to penetrate human skin) after the fruit from the forbidden tree was eater?
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Wrong...JW's are in no way an offshoot of Christendom, we separated ourselves from them in the very beginning and we have remained separate...no way, no how...you will find no other organization like ours...

“As Jehovah’s witnesses our sole and only purpose is to be entirely obedient to his commandments; to make known that he is the only true and Almighty God; that his Word is true and that his name is entitled to all honor and glory; that Christ is God’s King, whom he has placed upon his throne of authority; that his kingdom is now come, and in obedience to the Lord’s commandments we must now declare this good news as a testimony or witness to the nations and inform the rulers and the people of and concerning Satan’s cruel and oppressive organization, and particularly with reference to ‘Christendom’, which is the most wicked part of that visible organization, and of and concerning God’s purpose to shortly destroy Satan’s organization, which great act will be quickly followed by Christ the King’s bringing to the obedient peoples of earth peace and prosperity, liberty and health, happiness and everlasting life; that God’s kingdom is the hope of the world, and there is no other, and that this message must be delivered by those who are identified as Jehovah’s witnesses.
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How We Came to Be Known as Jehovah’s Witnesses — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
Elvira said:
Wrong...JW's are in no way an offshoot of Christendom, we separated ourselves from them in the very beginning and we have remained separate...no way, no how...you will find no other organization like ours...
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The JW are a religious sect that based itself on Christianity. The first even JW didn't wake up that way they believed in something beforehand as you claim.

I think offshoot is a valid description, one could use mutation if you like.


The rest is all valid - you think you have the truth but so do all denomination of Christian.

Why is the Bible so open to interpretation?
 
Rich2018 said:
The JW are a religious sect that based itself on Christianity. The first even JW didn't wake up that way they believed in something beforehand as you claim.

I think offshoot is a valid description, one could use mutation if you like.


The rest is all valid - you think you have the truth but so do all denomination of Christian.

Why is the Bible so open to interpretation?
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I guess that is for you to discover on your own...
 
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