Yeah. It's a conspiracy.NRA funds many politicians, and they also lobby other big money holder's to follow their lead.
Again if the NRA is the only thing standing in the way of gun control, there will likely never be gun control.Maybe if that NRA cheerleading is defunct, then the politicians who take NRA money won't have that stream to rely on.
Did the shooter pick and choose white victims?
The first step to any solution is that Americans need to have a conversation on what we agree on and what we don't, because I highly doubt the majority of Americans care if law abiding non-want-to-be mass shooters gave guns. Too many Americans are incapable of even having a conversation.I understand your frustration but explain what your solution is and how it improves the dilemma.
It is a fact that machine guns were banned. how it is not possible to ban rapid fire assault type and style weapons?You framed your post like a solution:
No one said an 'entire' solution. But proposing a law to end something sure seems like a 'solution.' I'm not sure why it bothers you to present it as such, unless you are sensitive about being wrong.
And I never said it was a bad solution...I asked for more information.
Why are you so defensive? Good lord, I've been discussing it very politely. Machine guns arent banned, you just need a special permit. And people use bump stocks as a workaround. Even outlawed, people can make them...that's the thing about 'laws,' the criminals dont follow them.It is a fact that machine guns were banned. how it is not possible to ban rapid fire assault type and style weapons?
how can I give you more information on something that is facing hurdles even after the mass shooting I described, not to mention the Nevada shooting that claimed all those lives at the event, and they found those rapid fire weapons in the hotel.
I would love to have a solution... but I don't.... I'm looking for a solution here in the city where I live. The Police Chief just today, said they have to find a means to get the guns out of the hands where they don't belong. Cities across this nation is looking for solution, at some point, people will have to come to a consensus, what that might produce of results, I don't know.
Heck, we can even stop people from talking on Cell Phones while driving.
Are you having fun in Miami with all those 65 plus running amok in your streets?
Yeah, you never accomplish anything. Probably because you are disingenuous.
get your "majority" to vote. Why are y'all all so desperate to do nothing?
I literally dont care what you think you want.Is that up to you to decide? Esp. when the stakes are my life? Would you choose for pregnant women too, to risk remaining pregnant? I mean, no one can 'really know' for sure, right?
Well then I guess you asked me a very empty question that didnt work out for you. I was wondering, were you going to address this? It's esp. relevent to the UK/Europe. People can still get hunting rifles in the UK.I literally dont care what you think you want.
I just know that in response to a horrific school shooting, the UK changed its laws, and twenty five years later still has never had another school shooting, while in the US we stack dead schoolchildren like cordwood. And no one is the UK, as far as I know, is bemoaning their desperate loss of freedom.
Because generally people tend not to use long guns, like rifles, in killing other humans. They use handguns or assault weapons, both designed primarily to shoot humans.Well then I guess you asked me a very empty question that didnt work out for you. I was wondering, were you going to address this? It's esp. relevent to the UK/Europe. People can still get hunting rifles in the UK.
But it's not about guns, it's about culture and POS loser males. That somehow, the US is producing in record numbers.Because to commit any of these shootings, all a person needs is one semi-auto hunting rifle. And an extra mag. (Or not). And in almost every other country, including Europe, citizens are allowed to own that. Many do.Europe then, for example, HAS the capacity in terms of gun ownership to have just as many mass shootings. And they DONT. They are, as everyone points out, rare.So since they have the guns, why dont they have the shootings?
Bad people wouldn't be either if they couldn't get their hands on a gun. It only makes sense to me if you limit the guns, you limit the death caused by guns. It's really not that complicated.What do you want done about it? And who is "we"?
The civilized world recognizes that shit happens, and good people who own guns aren't responsible for the Boulder shooting.
Your comments are so ironic its ****ing pathetic. You don't give a SHIT about the victims...you care about using them to promote a cause. NONE of you 'people' crawl out from under your rocks when there is daily bloodshed in the streets. NONE of you are going to your lawmakers and demanding they stop the killing of 9000-10,000 people a year...but Lord, dont you people shit yourself over the 50-60 a year you can exploit for gain.I know. Deaths are not interesting to gun nuts. They simply don't give a shit. But I can be assured that my personal moral sentiments are in keeping with every other major civilized nation on the planet. We have a history of violence and gun worship. Its in our DNA. I get it. You don't give a rats ass about the problem at all. But lets pretend that you care and that the only reason you don't want to do something is because of...hell, I forgot what the hell you people care about anymore, its all a bloody blur of dead people to me at this point.
What is defensive about wanting to have a solution? I don't think the average person is going to get a permit for a machine gun. and They did address Bump Stocks.Why are you so defensive? Good lord, I've been discussing it very politely. Machine guns arent banned, you just need a special permit. And people use bump stocks as a workaround. Even outlawed, people can make them...that's the thing about 'laws,' the criminals dont follow them.
The only interest you have in them is using them for dishonest arguments. It's why you do nothing. Insisting on flunking seems pointless to me but here you are.I know. Deaths are not interesting to gun nuts.
Moral self aggrandizing is often a pathetic argument of those who hold illogical positions.They simply don't give a shit. But I can be assured that my personal moral sentiments are in keeping with every other major civilized nation on the planet.
You need to put down the crazy conspiracy theories. Nobody worships guns and when you say something that profoundly stupid you drive a dagger through the heart of your own argument.We have a history of violence and gun worship.
Correction, I don't give a rats ass about your moronic solution and arrogant moralizing.You don't give a rats ass about the problem at all.
this is why you can't persuade anymore your mind has been so incredibly twisted by your hatred you don't even know how to relate to other people.But lets pretend that you care and that the only reason you don't want to do something is because of...hell, I forgot what the hell you people care about anymore, its all a bloody blur of dead people to me at this point.
Because generally people tend not to use long guns, like rifles, in killing other humans. They use handguns or assault weapons, both designed primarily to shoot humans.
I am happy to compromise and allow hunting rifles and shotguns and get rid of assault rifles and handguns.
But you’re not, I bet. Why not? You still get to shoot all the things you want to shoot, right? And thats apparently the most important thing here.
That doesnt really address my question or at least it doesnt negate my point. Europeans have the firearm capacity to do the same exact mass shootings. And yet, they dont.Because generally people tend not to use long guns, like rifles, in killing other humans. They use handguns or assault weapons, both designed primarily to shoot humans.
I am happy to compromise and allow hunting rifles and shotguns and get rid of assault rifles and handguns.
But you’re not, I bet. Why not? You still get to shoot all the things you want to shoot, right? And thats apparently the most important thing here.
Your 'defense' of your posts re: your solutions are very defensive. You are spending more time defending yourself than discussing.What is defensive about wanting to have a solution? I don't think the average person is going to get a permit for a machine gun. and They did address Bump Stocks.
Did they address belt loops?What is defensive about wanting to have a solution? I don't think the average person is going to get a permit for a machine gun. and They did address Bump Stocks.
It addresses your question exactly. Let’s only have hunting rifles. You’re happy, I’m happy.That doesnt really address my question or at least it doesnt negate my point. Europeans have the firearm capacity to do the same exact mass shootings. And yet, they dont.
Go into an unarmed (it's Europe after all!) crowd or store or classroom with your regular old hunting rifle and ammo and it would be like shooting ducks in a barrel. It's a very rare occurrence. Why?
It's not the guns. Again, you havent really explained it...the hunting rifles are available...but they're not using them to kill people. Why not?
(And if you are correct, what's the huge outcry against ARs? They are indeed used in shootings here. They're just dressed up semi-auto rifles. Regular semi-auto rifles have the same killing capacity)
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