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[W: #795] At least three people have been shot at the homes of Minnesota Democrats in overnight attacks by a gunman posing as cop

VySky said:
I imagine the shooter will not get the same support from Democrats that Luigi Mangione received for shooting the United Health Care CEO. 🤷‍♂️
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Could you cite some Democrats who voiced support for Mangione shooting the UHC CEO.
I must have missed those.
 
braindrain said:
So you are just imagining things now huh.
Not the persuasive argument you think it is.

Strange how I never see you never bringing up this argument up when someone from the left claim the right conducted the J6 riots though. I fired that I’d just different huh.
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OK. I'll do that so you can see it. The J6 insurrection was organized and instigated by people from the right. With your Dear Leader at the top of the heap. Now the Dear Leader has pardoned all of the imprisoned/arrested rioters so they are free to riot again. By and large the MAGAs seem to be happy with this.
 
This exactly what happens when the temperature of the political rhetoric is intentionally raised by republicans like Kristi Noem, Pam Bondi and FOX hosts. THIS is the result, innocent people die because of the job they hold. This was very predictable. It's not going to be the last murders to result from political raging. This is how the far-right settles their difference of opinions, with violence.
 
jmotivator said:
I do know the difference. The subset in the post I was responding to was selected by population size and then compared by Per-Capita murders. I could have made the point clearer by pointing out that Minneapolis is above median murder rate in that subset of cities. My point was the fact that lower population has a magnifying effect of murder rate statistics, so a city with a lower population set will tend to be over represented in murder rate. People seem to have read the wrong point into my statement.

In the end, what I was wrong about was that the subset of 100 largest cities is kind of top heavy in Murder rate, so raking 42nd is 8 spots above median, but that placement is actually represents ~70% higher than average murder rate for large cities, which is higher than I expected. The average large city murder rate in 10.5/100,000 and Minneapolis was 17.9/100,000 in 2024.
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Are you saying Minneapolis' murder rate is overrepresented compared to larger cities?

Interesting article, but it examines counties, not cities, even though it says "cities" throughout the article.

What the numbers show is crime rate decreasing with the population of a county. The murder rate in Hennepin County, Minneapolis, was 6.0 in 2022 according to the chart, and 10.3 in Ramsey County, which is St. Paul. We can reduce the subset to individual cities, but we can also expand to include metro areas, irrespective to county or even state boundaries. Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Francisco/Oakland, Seattle/Tacoma, Tampa/St. Petersburg, Kansas City MO/KS, others, are typically viewed as metro areas. There are also large metro areas composed of medium-sized and smaller cities. Salt Lake is one such area.

When looking for a home, one seeks the crime rates of individual neighborhoods, but separating cities from metro areas in attempting to show regional crime can be disingenuous. A population center with high crime may be surrounded by peace in the suburbs. The county measurement is better at this, but metro areas give a better picture of regional crime as a whole.
 
Geoist said:
It's very clearly politically motivated. It wasn't just one politician targeted so this wasn't some bizarre love triangle lover's quarrel.
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Definitely politically-motivated. I'd say a 70% chance that it's a far-right extremist, a 5% chance it's a far-leftist with a singular issue problem, and a 25% chance of it being a severely mentally ill person with some persecutorial complex.

Edit: Scary thought--what if it's a real police officer who's gone off the rails? Yikes....Scary shit no matter how you slice it.
 
Juks said:
It wasn't left wingers that did any of below:

The kidnapping plot against Gretchen Whitmer,
The storming of the Capitol (a police officer died—forgotten by everyone in the Trump camp...),
Violence training by Proud Boys and Oath Keepers leaders ahead of January 6,
Mail bombs sent to Democrats and the media (2018),
FBI agent shot at FBI office (2022),
Pittsburgh synagogue attack (2018) — 11 dead,
Paul Pelosi attacked in his home (2022),
...and so on.


Not to mention the daily encouragement of violence that pours from the mouth of your Führer. There has been political violence from the left in the US, but it is much much less common than violence from far-right or Trump-affiliated groups in recent years.
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And there is a list of left wing violence to match.

By the way, it doesn't look good when your list of right wing violence is padded with acts that weren't carried out by right wingers...

Or listing riots that pale in comparison to riots that raged this past weekend in support of left wing causes...
 
Buster Keaton said:
The Democrats are outraged that that Hoffman and Hortman voted with the Republicans to end free healthcare for illegal migrants.

www.minnpost.com

MinnesotaCare for undocumented adults ends with 4 DFL votes

A tied House meant lawmakers had to compromise to pass a budget, and the vote on MinnesotaCare was a victory for Republicans.
www.minnpost.com www.minnpost.com
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First rule of posting supporting references is reading them before posting.

“Majority Leader Erin Murphy, DFL-St. Paul; Sen. Ann Rest, DFL-New Hope; and Sen. Grant Hauschild, DFL-Hermantown, voted with Republicans”

Hoffman did not vote with Republicans.
 
Michael Cole said:
Are you saying Minneapolis' murder rate is overrepresented compared to larger cities?

Interesting article, but it examines counties, not cities, even though it says "cities" throughout the article.

What the numbers show is crime rate decreasing with the population of a county. The murder rate in Hennepin County, Minneapolis, was 6.0 in 2022 according to the chart, and 10.3 in Ramsey County, which is St. Paul. We can reduce the subset to individual cities, but we can also expand to include metro areas, irrespective to county or even state boundaries. Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Francisco/Oakland, Seattle/Tacoma, Tampa/St. Petersburg, Kansas City MO/KS, others, are typically viewed as metro areas. There are also large metro areas composed of medium-sized and smaller cities. Salt Lake is one such area.

When looking for a home, one seeks the crime rates of individual neighborhoods, but separating cities from metro areas in attempting to show regional crime can be disingenuous. A population center with high crime may be surrounded by peace in the suburbs. The county measurement is better at this, but metro areas give a better picture of regional crime as a whole.
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Because large cities dominate the county statistics for the counties that they are in. Unless you can think of a location where the murder rate is higher in the suburbs...

Also, moving the goal posts from murder rate to crime rate doesn't do anything.
 


"I did what leaders do... I stepped up and I got the job done for the people of Minnesota."

Hortman and her husband were k*lled shortly after this video was taken in their home. Police believe it was politically motivated.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Your own linked tweet contradicts you.
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It does. The above post has since been edited. There is no proof Hoffman voted with the Senate. Lighten up, Francis. Lots of speculation going around. Carry on with your "fun".
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