[W:751]Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

Putin.

Brilliant. You go to the head of your class.

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

While you are so right, what is shocking is that so many Americans willingly follow Donald Trump. It is a reminder that the principles of a republic are fragile and evil never sleeps.

Trump is in the White House because Hillary was a poor choice.
Come November, if Trump is running against Bernie or Warren, the results will be the same because people with half a brain will see either of those two Dems to be a poor and dangerous choice.
That is willingly following Trump because the Dems can't find a candidate that can beat him.

 

[Tangmo]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

The shameless spins of Trumpers would be hilarious, if they weren't so ****ing pathetic.

Trumpers have become what we once fought against.

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

The shameless spins of Trumpers would be hilarious, if they weren't so ****ing pathetic.

exactice wrote: "Again LTC Vindman has ZERO issue doing his job and being qualified. He has a difference of opinion to which the POTUS has control of his administration Vindman does NOT fit in this administration and is being re assigned. Pretty simple."

I think exactice has his head on straight. Trump runs the White House. Vindman did not fit. Vindman still has his commission and gets another job. What's the big deal?

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

I am not as pessimistic about Europe as you. There is no fear of the EU member states going broke in order to care for the sick, not just emergencies but cancer and cardiac treatment and consultations and prescription medicine either free or a token charge. In the nature of these brief posts we can give the wrong impression. It is not only health care but also housing which I did mention. Different countries in the EU have different degrees of socialism. For example, Spain has a socialist government but they are behind in housing financed by government. Some have 100% child care and plenty of maternal and paternal leave. Water, transport, and youth services can and are provided from central or municipal governments. Unemployment benefits have to be sufficient to provide a basic living for families. Libraries, swimming pools, and subsidized broadband make up the economies and funding for free college fees. Workers rights are also codified in socialist countries with legal imperatives for trade union participation in industry. Depending on the member state and the traditions in each country, the complexion of socialism can vary. I mention all this to clarify that socialism is present to some degree in typical EU states. But the people with money and free enterprise corporations have been so much a part of the American system that the ordinary American thinks there are no socialist countries in advanced open-market countries such as Europe and they think all socialist countries must be like North Korea or Albania under Enver Hoxha and that is just not so.

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Socialist Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez

You have no idea what Americans think, it's all the usual cliches, and Americans certainly don't care what Europeans think.

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

And now, his security is in question.
If anything happens to him, or his brother, or anyone in their families, I will hold Donald Trump personally responsible.

And Trump should be worried if he reads that.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

Trumpers have become what we once fought against.

What have you ever fought against? And what do you think you're fighting against now?

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

Yes he has said that and the Republican Senators that took an oath to be impartial Jurors and already had their minds up even before the Senate started the trial put him in the position so he can and will do what he wants even if it is illegal
and if and when a Dem. gets back in I want to see if he does anything like Trump has what they will do ( when he says Art. 2 says he can do anything he wants as long as he says it is for the good of the people of the USA )
heck I can see Trump disbanding the Federal Gov. and declaring that he is KING and it is all for the good of the American people
Have a nice night

Don't let you fantastic conspiracy theory keep you awake tonight. What an imagination!

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

As Hitler and Stalin saw it, all who are witnesses to their crimes, all who suspected of disloyalty, and all that must "take the blame" to protect the leader must go.

These are on the list of metaphorical execution, all who testified:Taylor, Kurt Volker, Michael Atkinson the IG, Fiona Hill, Michael McKinley, George Kent, Laura Cooper, Philip Reeker, Christopher Anderson, Catherine Croft, Tim Morrison, David Hale, Jennifer Williams, David Holmes, and Mark Sandy...and the whistleblower.

Nineteen targets, three down (one being Vindman's brother), sixteen more to go. Trump will employ the same logic of Hitler on the night of the Long Knives, or Stalin in the Moscow Show Trials. These traitors, saboteurs, and disloyal cancers must go. If they happen to confess and plead for their jobs, so much the better before the axe falls.

I wonder when the file cases and computer disks will be delivered to the incinerators, and if any might be spared through public humiliation?

Soon we will know.

Another imaginative conspiracy theorist. You should write a screen play.

 

[Jean-s]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

Trump is in the White House because Hillary was a poor choice.
Come November, if Trump is running against Bernie or Warren, the results will be the same because people with half a brain will see either of those two Dems to be a poor and dangerous choice.
That is willingly following Trump because the Dems can't find a candidate that can beat him.

I accept that Americans are very conservative and will likely be for some time to come.

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

I use Adblock and cannot see the article you want me to read. I disagree with the opinion of the American writer in Forbes magazine. You see, I live in the European Union and I ought to know. The definition of social welfare states applies to the countries I mentioned as well as the socialist parties in government in other EU states. Having social programs, which you try to dismiss, amounts to a definition of socialism. The social programs such as socialized medicine, free education and child care, government built and rented housing, state public transport, etc., is the meaning of socialism, for Pete's sake. It is astonishing the ignorance among some Americans who think that socialist parties do not run modern European countries or that a socialist cannot express an opinion on the principles of a republican democracy.

You can express any opinion you want if it isn't libelous, slanderous, vulgar, or threatening.

 

[Jean-s]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

You have no idea what Americans think, it's all the usual cliches, and Americans certainly don't care what Europeans think.

I can only partly agree with you because I am sure everyone knows what Americans think but I share your opinion that Americans do not care what Europeans think. Actually, half the Americans do not even care what the other half of their fellow Americans think. That is clear to anyone who owns a TV.

 

[Jean-s]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

You can express any opinion you want if it isn't libelous, slanderous, vulgar, or threatening.

In that case I am on steady ground.

 

[Oborosen]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

Mafia

What is it with your love for the mafia?

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

Jeepers! This is as close to a dictatorship in all but name.

Complain to the drafters of the Constitution. That's the way it is written.

 

[Oborosen]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

From the looks of things, Vindman stepped on more than a few toes during his time in that seat.

Not really surprised that he's getting moved.

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

No I truly believe none of the questions raised are legitimate. I say this respectfully but fully disagree.

There have been times I have disagreed with my CEO. I have done it privately and at times at staff meetings. If I was ever ordered to do something unethical I would have said no and taken the consequences,meaning being fired.

A manager has to have confidence in the people who work for him/her. How can someone brainstorm, sometimes come with wacky stuff as you are bouncing things around if you know someone in the room will come out and tell others "Can you believe what that jerk wanted to do, good thing I was in the room to change his/her mind".

Totally unacceptable in my view.

If your question had been based on a subordinate having a different point of view and airing it privately and then being ousted,then your questions would be valid IMHO.

Basically, if you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen.
Slavery ended over 150 years ago. No one has to work for Trump more than they need to.
Vindman and Sondlung have other things they can do. If they are such heroes then other organizations
should want to hire such paragons of virtue.

 

[Tangmo]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

You believe the truth from the impeachment witnesses was a clear case of black and white.
Of course you do. Your hatred of Trump requires you to believe anything that is coming from people who want to nail Trump.

The hatred of Trump stuff means you haven't anything valid to say, speaking as the Putin-Trump Rower that you are. All I've done is to be one among many who presses your guys button to recite your mindless dogma.

Brilliant. You go to the head of your class.

Thx anyway but brilliance is not required to recognize that the Republican party has become the largest pro Russia political party outside of Russia.

 

[Jean-s]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

Complain to the drafters of the Constitution. That's the way it is written.

The drafters of the Constitution did not envisage control of all three branches of the Federal Government could be in the hands of one man in the Executive whose party has packed the Supreme Court with party-approved justices and where the same party control the Senate which is supposed to try the president when impeached. The system has been destroyed by the Trump Republicans.

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

I accept that Americans are very conservative and will likely be for some time to come.

Very observant from so far away.

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

The hatred of Trump stuff means you haven't anything valid to say, speaking as the Putin-Trump Rower that you are. All I've done is to be one among many who presses your guys button to recite your mindless dogma.







Thx anyway but brilliance is not required to recognize that the Republican party has become the largest pro Russia political party outside of Russia.

I didn't know that. Thanks for your incisive political insight.

 

[Night_Ranger]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

The drafters of the Constitution did not envisage control of all three branches of the Federal Government could be in the hands of one man in the Executive whose party has packed the Supreme Court with party-approved justices and where the same party control the Senate which is supposed to try the president when impeached. The system has been destroyed by the Trump Republicans.

Are you kidding me? Trump is the only reason our nation is still intact. Trump has been key in restoring the republican party to it's true values.

 

[jaypatriot]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

The drafters of the Constitution did not envisage control of all three branches of the Federal Government could be in the hands of one man in the Executive whose party has packed the Supreme Court with party-approved justices and where the same party control the Senate which is supposed to try the president when impeached. The system has been destroyed by the Trump Republicans.

So what's the answer? Go back to politics as usual? Has Trump suddenly gained control of the House of Representatives?
"Paccked the Supreme Court". I like that. He took advantage of a unique opportunity to put in Justices that will support Conservative ideals. Elections have consequences. Why is that bad? Because you're a Socialist?

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

The hatred of Trump stuff means you haven't anything valid to say, speaking as the Putin-Trump Rower that you are. All I've done is to be one among many who presses your guys button to recite your mindless dogma.







Thx anyway but brilliance is not required to recognize that the Republican party has become the largest pro Russia political party outside of Russia.

Recall how the Democrats were overjoyed when Obama canned a General Officer.

To Obama McChrystal was a damned poor officer to talk bad about his lordship.

Obama 'angry' after reading McChrystal's remarks - CNN.com

Obama 'angry' after reading McChrystal's remarks

(CNN) -- The fate of the top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan hinges on his meeting Wednesday with President Barack Obama, who was "angry" after reading the general's remarks about colleagues in a magazine profile to be published Friday.

Gen. Stanley McChrystal will likely resign, a Pentagon source who has ongoing contacts with the general said.

The "magnitude and graveness" of McChrystal's mistake in conducting the interview for the article were "profound," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said McChrystal had "made a significant mistake and exercised poor judgment."

But wait, okay to fire McChrystal; but not okay to move Vindman to the Pentagon?

 

[JustHanging]

Re: Alexander Vindman to be ousted from National Security Council as early as Friday

If I were him I'd cash out my retirement and enjoy myself. Who would want to work for Trump or any of his Cabinet members these days?

To be fair, if you liked stealing from charities, scamming hard working people with fake institutions, and taking money from children with cancer, working for Trump would be a dream job.