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[W:#7426]How will Brexit go?***W:46]***

How will Brexit go?

  • The EU will continue to grow but will change to address the feelings that drove Brexit.

    Votes: 13 11.4%

  • The EU will continue to grow but will not address the feelings that drove Brexit

    Votes: 16 14.0%

  • The EU will see more countries pulling out after we leave.

    Votes: 20 17.5%

  • The UK will break up as a consequence of Brexit.

    Votes: 26 22.8%

  • The UK will still hold after all is done and dusted.

    Votes: 20 17.5%

  • There’ll be a second Brexit related referendum. (Independence / Brexit etc)

    Votes: 22 19.3%

  • We’ll end up with soft Brexit and end up staying within EFTA.

    Votes: 18 15.8%

  • We'll have a Hard Brexit, a disaster ending with WTO rules.

    Votes: 29 25.4%

  • We'll have a Hard Brexit which will be a success, even under WTO rules

    Votes: 18 15.8%
  • Total voters
    114
Big Eye said:
Lol...Scotland has the lowest population density in the U.K...you should have levels of death closer to Norway....they have a few hundred deaths and you have 6000! England also has much greater numbers of people coming in...so obviously we were hit harder initially than Scotland....

But to top it all the numbers in England are inflated...I still know no one who knows anyone that has died from this...even the government numbers of 1 in a thousand dying from it are hardly extreme when you consider the average age of death is 82...so this has been a massive over reaction from progressives around the world.

The whole exporting thing is a misunderstanding of the economy...we are primarily an inward trading country...as shown only 7% of our economy is dependent on the EU...so saying that Scotland exports more per head of population is pretty meaningless if the rest of your local trade is shit...and don’t forget most of your exports come to England.

You are a sucker for statistics and polls.
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I like figure.
Did you know during the first lot of clearances 240,000 Scottish men women and children were sold into slavery, along with the Irish, well those that didn't starve to death, in Scotland but mostly Ireland, during there forced starvation, want a link?
In the early 19th century there were over a million people in the Highlands of Scotland, but with the creation of estates, the further clearances, there are after 120 years, less than 300,000 living in the highlands!
If you would like to know where these people are, you can look at the war memorials where there were villages. Every where you look through out the Highlands. An on going genocide, and you wonder why?
 
Big Eye said:
If it’s done in a legal way sure.
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It's hasn't happened twice previously, when every legal step was taken, now, you have no opinion, we do! And it's not going to be in your interest for a change, it's going to be for the Scottish nation only to decide, how where and when! You lot would know legal if it hit you in the head!
 
Manc Skipper said:
The man himself, bragging about the lorry parking areas being set aside to cope with the queues of trucks waiting to clear customs! Two of them were Covid testing so=ites and were shut down to make way!

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Update; Following some heavy rain, the Kent Brexit lorry park (built on a flood plain) will not be ready for Brexit day! They've had a year's transition to "get this done" and they're still not finished with three weeks to go.
 
Jack Hays said:
Because the US would have a much lighter touch than the EU as regards internal UK management.
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Not even close. USA food hygiene regulations alone would require the UK to dismantle ours, because the US wouldn't meet them. Britain wasn't only involved in EU law and regulation, we drafted much of it, and from memory only twice in forty years did we object/veto a rule's introduction.
We had perhaps the best deal in the EU, with a hand on the controls, and Johnson spaffed it up the wall to save his friends from paying lawful taxes.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Not even close. USA food hygiene regulations alone would require the UK to dismantle ours, because the US wouldn't meet them. Britain wasn't only involved in EU law and regulation, we drafted much of it, and from memory only twice in forty years did we object/veto a rule's introduction.
We had perhaps the best deal in the EU, with a hand on the controls, and Johnson spaffed it up the wall to save his friends from paying lawful taxes.
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If we can craft agreements with Mexico and Canada we can craft one with the UK.
 
Jack Hays said:
If we can craft agreements with Mexico and Canada we can craft one with the UK.
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Which took 3 years to formalize starting from a free trade agreement already in place. Whereas a US/UK one is effectively starting from scratch.
 
Sven Karma said:
Which took 3 years to formalize starting from a free trade agreement already in place. Whereas a US/UK one is effectively starting from scratch.
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I think you would be surprised by how much has already been done, and how much can be built out from other agreements. The people who do this for a living are quite agile.
 
Highlanders said:
I like figure.
Did you know during the first lot of clearances 240,000 Scottish men women and children were sold into slavery, along with the Irish, well those that didn't starve to death, in Scotland but mostly Ireland, during there forced starvation, want a link?
In the early 19th century there were over a million people in the Highlands of Scotland, but with the creation of estates, the further clearances, there are after 120 years, less than 300,000 living in the highlands!
If you would like to know where these people are, you can look at the war memorials where there were villages. Every where you look through out the Highlands. An on going genocide, and you wonder why?
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Honestly guv, it wasn’t me. My ancestry is Irish and English...apparently may father’s side looked like pikeys...we can all whine about the past to excuse our prejudices...ho-hum.
 
Highlanders said:
It's hasn't happened twice previously, when every legal step was taken, now, you have no opinion, we do! And it's not going to be in your interest for a change, it's going to be for the Scottish nation only to decide, how where and when! You lot would know legal if it hit you in the head!
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Lol...should English people in Scotland get a vote...what about Scots in England?
 
The world benefits from sensible trade deals...notice how many hurdles leftists try to create to block them...says much about the ****s.
 
Luce said:
Sure we can. They're a captive market.

Should be fun.
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Your basic error is to assume exports are the bulk of our economy...I think they’re about 15 percent of it...so we ain’t hostages to exports in the way countries like Germany are.
 
Big Eye said:
Lol...should English people in Scotland get a vote...what about Scots in England?
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What a silly question, English people Polish people, Irish people, if they live in .Scotland for a period, they of course get a vote! This isn't England.
As for the Scots in England, that's missionary work, education, were they're for your benefit.
 
Big Eye said:
Your basic error is to assume exports are the bulk of our economy...I think they’re about 15 percent of it...so we ain’t hostages to exports in the way countries like Germany are.
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Then this shouldn't hurt too much.
 
Big Eye said:
The world benefits from sensible trade deals...notice how many hurdles leftists try to create to block them...says much about the ****s.
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What part of American history tells you that we won't take advantage of the situation?

Hell, we billed you for our help in world war two.
 
Luce said:
What part of American history tells you that we won't take advantage of the situation?

Hell, we billed you for our help in world war two.
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With trade both sides take advantage of the situation...that’s the ****ing point.
 
Big Eye said:
The world benefits from sensible trade deals...notice how many hurdles leftists try to create to block them...says much about the ****s.
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Sense and English should never be in the same sentence! Pray tell, your biggest market, Europe, you have kicked into touch, and I said four years ago, there will be no deal!
Sensible trade deals..... goodness me!
Why do I know that?
I was told, as well as you, but I listened and you didn't, instead those that rely on your superior bigotry and racism, using these traits to manipulate England to defeat there own needs. You voted for austerity, you voted to remove medical care, you voted to have your own nation starving, not my words, the words of the United Nations security council! And you say we..... we.... block..... anything, goodness hypocrisy or what! You vote tories we don't, we aren't daft!
 
Jack Hays said:
As I said, I expect a win-win.
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I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.

Personally, I think we're going to take them to the cleaners.
 
Luce said:
I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.

Personally, I think we're going to take them to the cleaners.
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Donald Trump is no longer in office so I think Biden will be more fair
 
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